Learn from 3rd party sites

[Irene ❤]

Do you know that over 30 games have 90% discount right now?

Which 10 games have the highest player?

CSGO skin, what are the available knives to buy?

All the information are provided by 3rd party websites.

Easy search. Easy sort. Easy category clicks.

Why must we use them? How long must we use them? It's time for valve to improve on their store page.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Irene ❤:

Do you know that mortal kombat 11 is having 90% discount right now?

Which 10 games have the highest player?

CSGO skin, what are the available knives to buy?

All the information are provided by 3rd party websites.

Easy search. Easy sort. Easy category clicks.

Why must we use them? How long must we use them? It's time for valve to improve on their store page.

Steam doesn't set the discount.

[BJWyler]

And don't forget the most important one:
How long before your account gets hijacked, inventory stolen, and account banned for cheating because of using third party sites?

[Irene ❤]

Originally posted by BJWyler:

And don't forget the most important one:
How long before your account gets hijacked, inventory stolen, and account banned for cheating because of using third party sites?

Correct!
If valve have a good store, why would people need to use 3rd party sites and got compromised by fake ones. Reduce the greedy 15% tax. Imagine trading a $1000 knife and having to pay $150 for absolutely no reason. Hell, even if I buy a $5000 shoe my credit card company won't charge $150.
A good software delivery service beats piracy with trojians and virus.
A good store and trading page beats scams and hijackers.

[nullable]

Originally posted by Irene ❤:

Originally posted by BJWyler:

And don't forget the most important one:
How long before your account gets hijacked, inventory stolen, and account banned for cheating because of using third party sites?

Correct!
If valve have a good store, why would people need to use 3rd party sites and got compromised by fake ones. Reduce the greedy 15% tax. Imagine trading a $1000 knife and having to pay $150 for absolutely no reason. Hell, even if I buy a $5000 shoe my credit card company won't charge $150.
A good product delivery beats piracy with trojians and virus.
A good store and trading page beats scams and hijackers.

Or maybe users could stop being greedy. Sometimes the price is the price, and if you don't like it, don't buy it. If the 3rd party sites you're either praising are so great, why do you care? And if you're worried about scams and fraud, well that's not really a strong position to criticize Valve over.

Reality is Valve does just fine on their store. so it kinda seems like you assume that your attraction to 3rd party sites, scam sites, and grey market sites applies equally to everyone. That would be a bad assumption.

Steam is a good store. Valve deserves to make money. No one is forced to buy anything from Steam. No developer/publishers are forced to sell their games on Steam. Valve is doing just fine managing their wildly popular and successful business. They're doing better than the grey market site you think it's so important for Valve to copy.

Your definition of a good store and good trading I think is lacking on the objective bits, and more focused on satisfying some specific self-serving opinions. Well good luck overcoming that disadvantage.

[Crazy Tiger]

Nobody "must" use 3rd party sites, it's always a choice.

Prices and discounts are set by the game developers/publishers. So if you don't like the discounts and such, contact the publishers to ask them why they don't adjust it.

Also keep in mind that grey market sites and such are *not* the standard.

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by Irene ❤:

Reduce the greedy 15% tax. Imagine trading a $1000 knife and having to pay $150 for absolutely no reason.

Trade for it.

No tax involved in old regular trading.

Originally posted by Irene ❤:

Hell, even if I buy a $5000 shoe my credit card company won't charge $150.

Spoiler. Your CC company is actually charging a fee for the transaction to the seller. Fee that's accounted on the shoe price.

[cinedine]

Originally posted by Irene ❤:

Reduce the greedy 15% tax. Imagine trading a $1000 knife and having to pay $150 for absolutely no reason. Hell, even if I buy a $5000 shoe my credit card company won't charge $150.

You are not paying anything more.
The seller receives less. If they wanted 1000 dollar, they are free to set the price at this point. IRL the seller would also have to cover various fees from their margin.
(Also a lot of European countries laugh at 15 % "fees for nothing" considering their VAT is substantially higher.)

Originally posted by BJWyler:

And don't forget the most important one:
How long before your account gets hijacked, inventory stolen, and account banned for cheating because of using third party sites?

Oh yeah, the dreaded scam sites steamdb.org or steamcharts.com or tools like steampeek.hu. Not to mention the illegal hacker tool that is Enhanced Steam.

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Prices and discounts are set by the game developers/publishers. So if you don't like the discounts and such, contact the publishers to ask them why they don't adjust it.

Huh?
They are just complaining that Steam has no easy way to find all games on a steep discount. It's a common suggestion to be able to sort for discount percentage.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by Irene ❤:

Do you know that over 30 games have 90% discount right now?

Can see all games on discount - https://store.steampowered.com/search/?supportedlang=english&specials=1&ndl=1

Knowing a game i'd never play is 90% off isn't very useful, from your wishlist of games your interested in you could see all the games that are on discount sorted by the amount of discount

Originally posted by Irene ❤:

Which 10 games have the highest player?

https://store.steampowered.com/charts/mostplayed

Originally posted by Irene ❤:

CSGO skin, what are the available knives to buy?

Don't play csgo or deal with skins so i'll skip this

The info is there if you know where to look.

[[?]legit]

The irony in these discussions is that the loudest people with their boldest claims, don't even use said sites. It's like the blind man talking about color... Steam has an api key support for 3rd party sites. Steam supports openID log in for 3rd party sites.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by ?legit:

The irony in these discussions is that the loudest people with their boldest claims, don't even use said sites. It's like the blind man talking about color... Steam has an api key support for 3rd party sites. Steam supports openID log in for 3rd party sites.

Which also shows there's no point in integrating all of that into the client.

People already complain about bloat, why add more?

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

People already complain about bloat, why add more?

Go bloat or go broke!

Honestly, if it is web based and not on the client it's self, it may not be an issue... until sale time when everything breaks.

[[?]legit]

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

People already complain about bloat, why add more?

Go bloat or go broke!

Honestly, if it is web based and not on the client it's self, it may not be an issue... until sale time when everything breaks.

Yep, it has nothing to with in the client, such things also have nothing to do with bloat... as I've said before... bold claims

[Rougeland]

Originally posted by Irene ❤:

Do you know that over 30 games have 90% discount right now?

Which 10 games have the highest player?

CSGO skin, what are the available knives to buy?

All the information are provided by 3rd party websites.

Easy search. Easy sort. Easy category clicks.

Why must we use them? How long must we use them? It's time for valve to improve on their store page.

good to know lol

[no154370]

Only fools and naive and silly people go buy games from 3rd party malicious websites

e.g carousell website got plenty of scammers

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by ?legit:

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Go bloat or go broke!

Honestly, if it is web based and not on the client it's self, it may not be an issue... until sale time when everything breaks. :lunar2019laughingpig:

Yep, it has nothing to with in the client, such things also have nothing to do with bloat... as I've said before... bold claims :lunar2019grinningpig:

If done on the client, it would be bloat. Like Totoro implied.