twisting words

[Shinoskay]

Hey steam, can you have a rule against 'twisting someones words to suit your own rhetoric'?

I feel like its more inflammatory, AND DISRESPECFUL, than anything else to reductively 'paraphrase' someone in a way that creates a negative portrayal of what they are saying.

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by Shinoskay:

Hey steam, can you have a rule against 'twisting someones words to suit your own rhetoric'?

I feel like its more inflammatory, AND DISRESPECFUL, than anything else to reductively 'paraphrase' someone in a way that creates a negative portrayal of what they are saying.

You already have a recent thread discussing the disrespectful rule:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/4328600953646172835/

There's also a big difference between people twisting words, which is not the scenario, and giving accurate replies.

[Aachen]

So report the content whereïn someone’s paraphrase gets to inflammatory or disrespectful degree.

“Twisting words to suit one’s rhetoric” reads like a paraphrase of the straw man, fwiw.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Shinoskay:

Hey steam, can you have a rule against 'twisting someones words to suit your own rhetoric'?

I feel like its more inflammatory, AND DISRESPECFUL, than anything else to reductively 'paraphrase' someone in a way that creates a negative portrayal of what they are saying.

This rule would backfire immensely.

[Malfunctioning Robot]

OP makes a thread about twisting words, LITERALLY twisting others words to suit a narrative to justify it.

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Originally posted by Shinoskay:

Hey steam, can you have a rule against 'twisting someones words to suit your own rhetoric'?

I feel like its more inflammatory, AND DISRESPECFUL, than anything else to reductively 'paraphrase' someone in a way that creates a negative portrayal of what they are saying.

This rule would backfire immensely.

Given the context, that would be an accurate assessment.

Originally posted by Malfunctioning Robot:

OP makes a thread about twisting words, LITERALLY twisting others words to suit a narrative to justify it.

[Psymon²]

Originally posted by Shinoskay:

Hey steam, can you have a rule against 'twisting someones words to suit your own rhetoric'?

I feel like its more inflammatory, AND DISRESPECFUL, than anything else to reductively 'paraphrase' someone in a way that creates a negative portrayal of what they are saying.

but how would the trolls be able to troll so trolly if you expect them to be reasonable, rational, and kind?

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by Shinoskay:

Hey steam, can you have a rule against 'twisting someones words to suit your own rhetoric'?

I feel like its more inflammatory, AND DISRESPECFUL, than anything else to reductively 'paraphrase' someone in a way that creates a negative portrayal of what they are saying.

So you want control of the narrative?

[mldb88]

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by Shinoskay:

Hey steam, can you have a rule against 'twisting someones words to suit your own rhetoric'?

I feel like its more inflammatory, AND DISRESPECFUL, than anything else to reductively 'paraphrase' someone in a way that creates a negative portrayal of what they are saying.

So you want control of the narrative?

Considering his MO of trying to self moderate the threads he posts, yes.

[William Shakesman]

If there were a rule against unfalsifiable bad faith assumptions, pretty much all the regulars here would be gone overnight. (And I would be too because most people here would no longer need the help I have been trying to give.)

[Shinoskay]

Originally posted by mldb88:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

So you want control of the narrative?

Considering his MO of trying to self moderate the threads he posts, yes.

I respect your interest, sometimes you and I even are on the same side for some discussions.

please do not get toxic, we will stop getting along if you do.

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by Shinoskay:

Hey steam, can you have a rule against 'twisting someones words to suit your own rhetoric'?

I feel like its more inflammatory, AND DISRESPECFUL, than anything else to reductively 'paraphrase' someone in a way that creates a negative portrayal of what they are saying.

So you want control of the narrative?

it is insane to suggest me saying I dont want people to reduce my paragraphs to twisted one liners that make it sound like im saying something negative is saying I want to control the narrative. never even mind its a specific suggestion that actually wouldnt impact the post you just made at all. it would only impact anyone mockishly making their own version of what someone said.

and since I get that was a lot of words

What you just said would be fine, al be it clearly a highly reduced, insane, take of what I said... but if you tried to make quotes claiming I said that then it wouldnt be.

I respect, and agree, that the forums... nay, the world.... should be more free. there are too many ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ regulations. However, you are fighting the wrong person because this isnt about that.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

If there were a rule against unfalsifiable bad faith assumptions, pretty much all the regulars here would be gone overnight. (And I would be too because most people here would no longer need the help I have been trying to give.)

Would that include calling people "wannabe Valve employees"?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by Shinoskay:

Originally posted by mldb88:

Considering his MO of trying to self moderate the threads he posts, yes.

I respect your interest, sometimes you and I even are on the same side for some discussions.

please do not get toxic, we will stop getting along if you do.

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

So you want control of the narrative?

it is insane to suggest me saying I dont want people to reduce my paragraphs to twisted one liners that make it sound like im saying something negative is saying I want to control the narrative. never even mind its a specific suggestion that actually wouldnt impact the post you just made at all. it would only impact anyone mockishly making their own version of what someone said.

and since I get that was a lot of words

What you just said would be fine, al be it clearly a highly reduced, insane, take of what I said... but if you tried to make quotes claiming I said that then it wouldnt be.

I respect, and agree, that the forums... nay, the world.... should be more free. there are too many ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ regulations. However, you are fighting the wrong person because this isnt about that.

That goes directly against previous posts.

[cinedine]

Originally posted by Aachen:

:rl2shrug: So report the content whereïn someone’s paraphrase gets to inflammatory or disrespectful degree.

“Twisting words to suit one’s rhetoric” reads like a paraphrase of the straw man, fwiw.

"I can see where you are are coming from, sadly there is nothing we can do".
After my posts where I called them out were moderated ...

A user took a quote from me into their OP without context - which was pretty much the opposite of what they presented it as - to make it look like I was supporting a cause they very well knew I wasn't supportive of.

All I asked for was them removing my quote ...

[fluxtorrent]

Originally posted by cinedine:

Originally posted by Aachen:

:rl2shrug: So report the content whereïn someone’s paraphrase gets to inflammatory or disrespectful degree.

“Twisting words to suit one’s rhetoric” reads like a paraphrase of the straw man, fwiw.

"I can see where you are are coming from, sadly there is nothing we can do".
After my posts where I called them out were moderated ...

A user took a quote from me into their OP without context - which was pretty much the opposite of what they presented it as - to make it look like I was supporting a cause they very well knew I wasn't supportive of.

All I asked for was them removing my quote ...

Hey look, its someone who took and twisted my words for 8 months to make it seem like I was saying something i wasn't to try and villify me

[William Shakesman]

Originally posted by cinedine:

Originally posted by Aachen:

:rl2shrug: So report the content whereïn someone’s paraphrase gets to inflammatory or disrespectful degree.

“Twisting words to suit one’s rhetoric” reads like a paraphrase of the straw man, fwiw.

"I can see where you are are coming from, sadly there is nothing we can do".
After my posts where I called them out were moderated ...

A user took a quote from me into their OP without context - which was pretty much the opposite of what they presented it as - to make it look like I was supporting a cause they very well knew I wasn't supportive of.

All I asked for was them removing my quote ...

Highest level internet pro tip: There are two types of people who never say anything worthwhile. First is the guy who uses "I" "me" "heres what I do" in excessive quantities in every post where not otherwise needed.

Second, and most important, is ANY variation of "Sounds like you think that..." just stop reading any post that opens with that.