Please provide an english translation

[Wickid_Splat]

How about a option in settings that we can select so that anyone that posts to our discussions has to provide an english translation. Some of these people that post other languages could be saying anything and the mods would not know it. What if it is a threat of some kind. I think providing an english translation would be part of our inherent needs to know what is being said.

[Dendrobates Tinctorius]

JohnWayne님이 먼저 게시:

How about a option in settings that we can select so that anyone that posts to our discussions has to provide an english translation. Some of these people that post other languages could be saying anything and the mods would not know it. What if it is a threat of some kind. I think providing an english translation would be part of our inherent needs to know what is being said.

Several moderators are at least bilingual; why isn't this an option for you?

[Wickid_Splat]

Hi, It depends on what you mean by "several", is that like two? And do they speak every language? Do you have enough bilingual people to cover every language? And how long does it take to filter through that chain to finally know what it says or do they even check unless there is a problem. English is an international language and i think that anyone posting in any other language should provide an english translation. Especially when posting messages on an American Campanies Website. To me it would only be common courtesy to do so.

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JohnWayne님이 먼저 게시:

Hi, It depends on what you mean by "several", is that like two? And do they speak every language? Do you have enough bilingual people to cover every language? And how long does it take to filter through that chain to finally know what it says or do they even check unless there is a problem. English is an international language and i think that anyone posting in any other language should provide an english translation. Especially when posting messages on an American Campanies Website. To me it would only be common courtesy to do so.

why should english translations be provided? valve is an american company, but located in washington, a state that has no offical language, so everyone has the freedom to speak in their own language

[Dendrobates Tinctorius]

JohnWayne님이 먼저 게시:

Hi, It depends on what you mean by "several", is that like two? And do they speak every language? Do you have enough bilingual people to cover every language? And how long does it take to filter through that chain to finally know what it says or do they even check unless there is a problem. English is an international language and i think that anyone posting in any other language should provide an english translation. Especially when posting messages on an American Campanies Website. To me it would only be common courtesy to do so.

It's like more than two.

Also, have you decided yet whether the reason you don't want people posting in other languages is that you're afraid they might secretly say something naughty or is it a matter of courtesy or is it that you need to know what everyone's saying at all times? It seems like someone who wants to cause trouble would simply provide a wrong translation.

[wuddih]

if someone is curious they can use google translate manually on their own. implementing google translate(and every other translation service) into Steam requires a commercial use license and that is overkill because some people just want to check if people of another language used fowl language.

also the wordfilter is quite multi-lingual.

[Wickid_Splat]

Gas mask TV thief님이 먼저 게시:

why should english translations be provided? valve is an american company, but located in washington, a state that has no offical language, so everyone has the freedom to speak in their own language

Wether or not they have state legislation on official language per state is a technicality. English is required to become part of the Union in the first place.

@Dendrobates My reasoning is courtesy as well as safety. Yes they can provide a wrong translation however doing so should violate Steam/Valve Terms Of Service. The clause should be added to the TOS at such time. It is a public place so all the public should be able to read it.

@wuddih Google Translate is wrong more than it is correct. I have a number of forign friends that tell me never to use it because many times it is way off.

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JohnWayne님이 먼저 게시:

Gas mask TV thief님이 먼저 게시:

why should english translations be provided? valve is an american company, but located in washington, a state that has no offical language, so everyone has the freedom to speak in their own language

Wether or not they have state legislation on official language per state is a technicality. English is required to become part of the Union in the first place.

how is english required? the Union itself has no offical language, it's up to the individual states to choose an official language, if they want any.
edit: puerto ricans mostly speak spanish, with english having secondary recognition

[Dendrobates Tinctorius]

JohnWayne님이 먼저 게시:

@Dendrobates My reasoning is courtesy as well as safety. Yes they can provide a wrong translation however doing so should violate Steam/Valve Terms Of Service. The clause should be added to the TOS at such time. It is a public place so all the public should be able to read it.

Then you should be suggesting mandatory russian translations too.

[FACINEROSO]

bueno estais un poco flipados pero no pasa nada cheeelooo

[Wickid_Splat]

@Gas Mask - Puerto Rico is not a state. Regarding the requirement to join the union, OK so it is not an "official" requirement however congress will not qualify an entity for a state without it. It has been that way since the beginning.

@Dendrobates how about an international section of the forum where they can post what they like and leave the main forum as english only. I know a bunch of sites that do that very thing.

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JohnWayne님이 먼저 게시:

@Gas Mask - Puerto Rico is not a state. Regarding the requirement to join the union, OK so it is not an "official" requirement however congress will not qualify an entity for a state without it. It has been that way since the beginning.

puerto rico is not s state, but still a part of the US, and do you have proof that an entity MUST use english to have congress recognize it? not all 50 states use an official language at all

[Wickid_Splat]

@ Facineroso - reported!

@ Gas Mask This is a grey area as it has been established as a "unwritten policy" as best as i can discover. But to support my claim, anyone applying for US citizenship must pass the english exam and show that they can speak and read english. So although the freedom of this country allows for states to choose or not to choose. It is enherently recognized that we want english speaking as our national language including states.

[Dendrobates Tinctorius]

JohnWayne님이 먼저 게시:

@Dendrobates how about an international section of the forum where they can post what they like and leave the main forum as english only. I know a bunch of sites that do that very thing.

But now that you've relaxed your stance from english everywhere to english most places, why not go all the way to how things are now, with most discussions voluntarily in english, but with other languages being used without mandatory translations too?

[Wickid_Splat]

I have not relaxed it was a suggestion in order to help make everyone happy. I still feel the same way however i will willing to go with babysteps at first.

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JohnWayne님이 먼저 게시:

@ Facineroso - reported!

@ Gas Mask This is a grey area as it has been established as a "unwritten policy" as best as i can discover. But to support my claim, anyone applying for US citizenship must pass the english exam and show that they can speak and read english. So although the freedom of this country allows for states to choose or not to choose. It is enherently recognized that we want english speaking as our national language including states.

if the government wanted english to be spoken by everyone, there would be an federally recognized offical language, but so far, there is none