Steam Points

[Beanie]

I feel like there should be a section for full games, or the ability to spend them on a discount. For example if you have 20000 points you can get 20% or more off on any game, or if you earn 100,000 points you can choose a game for free. I feel like that would encourage people to buy more games as the points would go towards something playable

[Aachen]

I feel like you’ve missed the many previous iterations of this idea users have offered.

[nullable]

The points have no value, that was by design. So what you feel is fine for a different system where points have value. Nintendo has platinum points for useless knick-knacks. And they have gold points for discounts.

So equivalently Valve just has platinum points, and no gold points. And thinking of ways to use your worthless points for something of worth is a nice fantasy, but that's all.

I would also argue Steam has better sales than the Nintendo eShop so I don't think I'd want to trade that away for Gold Points or equivalent. Nintendo's Gold points end up being like 1%-5% of what you spend, it varies and they expire after a year. You'd have to spend quite a lot to get enough to get a really significant discount on a AAA game. (Although I never save mine and just use them on the next purchase, same difference). I'd argue we don't really need them. But that's just me, a user of two different systems who thinks they're both fine.

But no, there's no argument you can make to manifest value for your existing Steam points.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Our daily "give free stuff" thread

[kkitts]

If you can't buy games with them, then get rid of them. Only a few times have I given an award for a particularly good review, and the points do nothing for the person receiving them. It's a waste of time and developer effort which could go into fixing problems or solving Steam Support requests faster. If it's not a true rewards program (games / DLC), it's worthless.

[FFL2and3rocks]

Diposting pertama kali oleh kkitts:

If you can't buy games with them, then get rid of them. Only a few times have I given an award for a particularly good review, and the points do nothing for the person receiving them. It's a waste of time and developer effort which could go into fixing problems or solving Steam Support requests faster. If it's not a true rewards program (games / DLC), it's worthless.

But other people enjoy it. It's just not for you, and that's okay.

[Tanoomba]

Diposting pertama kali oleh kkitts:

It's a waste of time and developer effort which could go into fixing problems or solving Steam Support requests faster.

It's not one or the other, and it's certainly not the same people in charge of both.

Diposting pertama kali oleh kkitts:

If it's not a true rewards program (games / DLC), it's worthless.

Well, for you. And it's fine if you choose not to make use of it. Personally, I've enjoyed giving and receiving awards, I've enjoyed buying emojis, avatar frames and profile backgrounds, and I've enjoyed adding and customizing showcases on my profile (yes, even though it's private). It turns out what gives features value is subjective.

[kkitts]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Tanoomba:

Diposting pertama kali oleh kkitts:

It's a waste of time and developer effort which could go into fixing problems or solving Steam Support requests faster.

It's not one or the other, and it's certainly not the same people in charge of both.

Diposting pertama kali oleh kkitts:

If it's not a true rewards program (games / DLC), it's worthless.

Well, for you. And it's fine if you choose not to make use of it. Personally, I've enjoyed giving and receiving awards, I've enjoyed buying emojis, avatar frames and profile backgrounds, and I've enjoyed adding and customizing showcases on my profile (yes, even though it's private). It turns out what gives features value is subjective.

Yep, and games are more valuable, or both of us wouldn't be on here. Airlines give frequent flier miles for more flights, not patches saying "100 trips!" or airline hats you can only give to other people.

[Cathulhu]

Sure thing, that will happen as soon as you accept being paid by your employer in SteamPoints.

[FOXDUDE69]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Our daily "give free stuff" thread

Such a constructive post.

Ever wonder that people keep asking for this feature because they want Steam to be more competitive? Or that they've accumulated a ton of points and the only thing they can use it on is on junk, or putting clowns on other users posts?

Then there's the reality that other platforms actually allow you to use points to partially or fully cover a game's cost. Perhaps these users want Valve to do the same so that they can keep buying games on Steam without feeling like a sucker?

But no. We have to make comments like that because the volunteer mods went around calling people beggars for years and this is the community they fostered.

[FOXDUDE69]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Cathulhu:

Sure thing, that will happen as soon as you accept being paid by your employer in SteamPoints.

I don't get paid in Nintendo Coins or Playstation Stars but I've used them to fully redeem multiple games.

Perhaps Steam likes the means to offer the same benefits the top dogs do, I dunno.

[AROCK!!!]

Diposting pertama kali oleh FOXDUDE69:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Cathulhu:

Sure thing, that will happen as soon as you accept being paid by your employer in SteamPoints.

I don't get paid in Nintendo Coins or Playstation Stars but I've used them to fully redeem multiple games.

Perhaps Steam likes the means to offer the same benefits the top dogs do, I dunno.

I think STEAM not doing this is simply another byproduct of their near majority and greed.

As with so many other things, they have no reason to think if the consumer as long as there is no "real" competition in the PC market.

This is another thing that will drive customers to other platforms, and by the time Valve gets around to doing something, it will be too late.

[Tanoomba]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ÁROCK!!!:

As with so many other things, they have no reason to think if the consumer as long as there is no "real" competition in the PC market.

But they "think of the consumer" literally all the time. Their client includes tons of features meant to appeal to their player base and drive engagement. Game forums, personalized profiles, friends list, reviews, guides, artwork, mod support, achievements, trading cards, Steam point shop, Steam marketplace, regular sales, etc, etc.

Despite their dominant position in the market, they're still being competitive. They just finished adding more features that, while not necessary, were appreciated quality of life additions (like being able to take notes in the client on a game-by-game basis). The fact that they're not offering a discount program linked to Steam points does not mean they "don't think of the consumer". The fact that such a program exists elsewhere does not mean we're entitled to it here.

Diposting pertama kali oleh ÁROCK!!!:

This is another thing that will drive customers to other platforms, and by the time Valve gets around to doing something, it will be too late.

Weren't you the one complaining about other people "doom & glooming"?

[cinedine]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Cathulhu:

Sure thing, that will happen as soon as you accept being paid by your employer in SteamPoints.

I consider to start reporting these obvious gaslighting posts. I refuse to accept that people are that dumb and really don't grasp a concept that has been around for 20+ years even after it has been exlained to them in good faith multiple times already in each of these threads. So the conclusion is, it is trolling.

One last time:
YOU pay in points. Point that were created from someone spending money on Steam - which is the one and only way to create them. Steam then uses their profits from these purchases to pay the amount you use points for.

Too complicated to understand? I don't think so.

[Xhoas]

Diposting pertama kali oleh cinedine:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Cathulhu:

Sure thing, that will happen as soon as you accept being paid by your employer in SteamPoints.

I consider to start reporting these obvious gaslighting posts. I refuse to accept that people are that dumb and really don't grasp a concept that has been around for 20+ years even after it has been exlained to them in good faith multiple times already in each of these threads. So the conclusion is, it is trolling.

One last time:
YOU pay in points. Point that were created from someone spending money on Steam - which is the one and only way to create them. Steam then uses their profits from these purchases to pay the amount you use points for.

Too complicated to understand? I don't think so.

But points don't have any real value...

[cinedine]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Xhoas:

Diposting pertama kali oleh cinedine:

I consider to start reporting these obvious gaslighting posts. I refuse to accept that people are that dumb and really don't grasp a concept that has been around for 20+ years even after it has been exlained to them in good faith multiple times already in each of these threads. So the conclusion is, it is trolling.

One last time:
YOU pay in points. Point that were created from someone spending money on Steam - which is the one and only way to create them. Steam then uses their profits from these purchases to pay the amount you use points for.

Too complicated to understand? I don't think so.

But points don't have any real value...

Thanks for mentioning it. Yes, indeed, this is yet another of these gaslighting obviously wrong and dumb statements that kept being repeated ad nauseum in this kind of threads.


This statement is even more devious, though, as it is exactly the same line of argumentation that excuses gambling in games - after all, the things you get don't have any value either.