Steam on consoles?

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I'm curious about why there is no app to allow Steam game functionality on consoles. Big Picture already allows people who don't own a game to play certain games as long as they have a Steam account.

I'm not the most knowledgable about this topic, I will admit, but do you think it's possible? Would anyone other than me want such a thing?

I'm not talking about making console versions, simply, I'm thinking along the lines of an app that converts PC games onto consoles as long as you already own it on Steam, and you just download the app, log in, and play. I would think even if the game is not specifically designed for console, but I'm not sure how that could work.

[Brian9824]

FoxDragonVsCatAndOwl eredeti hozzászólása:

brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

You pay for a game, you get that game. If they release a remastered version there isn't a promise you get that also for free.

Also again. not a steam suggestion. Steam can't do it, and developers already can if they wish.

You getting the same game on consoles IS asking for a free game. You bought a product on Platform X, you don't also get it on Platform Y and Z.

No, but if I paid for the base game before and the remaster overrides that I don't like having to be forced into buying the game all over again just to play a game I already paid for.

That has never happened and never will. If you pay for a game you always have it. You might get the remastered version for free like Skyrim did with some of their versions or you keep the version you bought.

You NEVER have to buy it again unless you want to play the new version of it. I mean I own the original dead space, I don't have to rebuy it because there is a remastered version unless I want the remaster. I always have my version I bought.

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FoxDragonVsCatAndOwl eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm not asking for a free game, I want to not be billed twice for multiple versions of one game,

Well one might wonder, even though consoles and PC's have existed for decades and content has existed in multiple formats for decades too, why your opinions about what you paid for and what the entitles you to haven't become reality yet.

Clearly the content makers don't feel you buying one version entitles you to all other versions. Turns out they have quite a large say in how their content is managed. And frankly, the license you bought doesn't entitle you to what you want.

The reality is if you want that kinda omni-all-platform-license it's gonna cost quite a bit more than $59.99, think more like $599.99, and me thinks most users aren't really going to be interested in that arrangement, which is why it's not an option for most consumer software. You should see how professional/enterprise level software is priced and get a handle on why it's priced that way. If you want the sun and the moon, you can have it, it's just expensive.

FoxDragonVsCatAndOwl eredeti hozzászólása:

and then prevented from using said purchase later when they block it from the store later because a newer version comes out.

Well that hasn't been a Steam problem to my knowledge. Or do you have specific examples where you were forced to buy an updated version when you already owned the initial version?

FoxDragonVsCatAndOwl eredeti hozzászólása:

Some developers give free updates for remasters for people who already own the game, while others make you purchase the game all over again. That's the point, if I've already paid I shouldn't have to pay again. It should legally be mine.

You paid for a license that has terms you agreed to, usually by clicking through agreements as fast as you can. If you don't understand that and want to re-negotiate the terms of the license after the fact, well good luck. Lots of people come into these topics with some self-serving ideas about how it ought to be and seem to disregard how it is and all the laws and history governing that. "I think it should be X", doesn't really negate all of that.

FoxDragonVsCatAndOwl eredeti hozzászólása:

Humble Bundle works exactly on this premise, though. You pay for a code, you take it to Steam or somewhere else and activate it, and you paid for the right to play it.

Well that code is usually specific to a single platform, and you can't reuse it willy-nilly or migrate it to other platforms. So I'm not really clear how you think that supports your previous arguments. Your imagination and assumptions fall over someplace along the thought process it seems like. But I'm interested to have it explained.

One might question why you think I feel I'm convinced I'm getting this just because I wish it were true.

No, they don't, but they sure are winning out when I buy 4 versions of the same game AND it's remaster. You would think the fans of the companies that are given free updates would be more appreciative than the companies that force you into buying it. Because apparently making your fans happy matters.

Hasn't been created, so it shouldn't be? Sounds like a price you made up. I'm trying to see if people would want something like this, because I know I would love to play certain games on console without having to buy it all over again. Especially games I already own on PC.

"Or do you have an example?" Yes, actually. I bought a game on an earlier console and then even though I still owned the account when a new console came out, even though the game was on the store, I wasn't allowed to download the game I had already paid for on the account I had bought it on because the base game was overridden by a different version of the game.

"Disregard how it is." You realize we're talking about something that hasn't been created yet? I'm not trying to force changes, I'm trying to find out if people would want to be able to able to play their Steam games on console with console controls without rebuying. I'm asking opinions and so far I'm getting discouragement and people making negative comments about my personality which as far as I'm concerned is completely unnecessary and a bit concerning as to why when what is said isn't true in the first place, unless I somehow managed to say I EXPECT and it IS going to happen, rather than it's my personal reason for why I want this and think it would be possible and a good idea, and I'm seeing if anyone else agrees or not. Not going to lie I'm feeling a bit personally attacked with the comments on how I am as a person just for trying to discuss this.

Platforms tend to use some of the same scripts for games, if it were possible to convert it, even with hardware not matching, thry likely could, IF they wanted to.

Edit: Actually, I think you lot should apologize to me for that. It was just a discussion and you made it personal.

[Brian9824]

Again what your describing isn't remotely applicable to steam. Consoles aren't always backwards compatible but you can always download and play the game you bought on steam.

Your making up scenarios that have nothing to do with steam or PC gaming

Also as told steam literally cannot give you a console version, only the developer can and they have no reason to, hence why they don't. I'm sure everyone would like to buy a game and get a copy of it on every platform it exists on, but developers like getting paid for those copies and it would be widely abused if they ever did it

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brian9824 eredeti hozzászólása:

Again what your describing isn't remotely applicable to steam. Consoles aren't always backwards compatible but you can always download and play the game you bought on steam.

Your making up scenarios that have nothing to do with steam or PC gaming

Also as told steam literally cannot give you a console version, only the developer can and they have no reason to, hence why they don't. I'm sure everyone would like to buy a game and get a copy of it on every platform it exists on, but developers like getting paid for those copies and it would be widely abused if they ever did it

I'm not makin up anything, please stop spiting me with my own words.

It wouldn't be on Steam, that's the point. It would be a Steam app for consoles, or just an app in general, that would allow PC games to be played on consoles using console controls with a controller, you know, like how Big Picture already does with it's converting software that allows you to play with a controller and console controls saved outside of the respective game you're playing, saved within Steam itself.

If enough fans had a problem with the industry being this way it would change, but you're putting words and feelings in my mouth that I expect it and think it is happening when I never said that. I want it to happen, I'm asking if it's doable hoping someone more educated than I am on it would comment without personal comments, and I wanted to know if it were possible if anyone else would want it.

People responded with discouragement so I responded in defense of my reason for asking and received personal comments about my personality. I'm a bit upset because I feel personally attacked, again. I don't think I was being entitled, I think you and others were twisting what I was doing, and I'm not sure why you would do that. Other than saying I think I should get an apology for being falsely accused I don't think I felt owed or like I was demanding anything about the topic itself, which as far as I'm concerned is what entitlement is.

Strangers accusing me of being entitled seems to be something people enjoy doing in their free time. Everytime I've been accused I don't think there was any time they were correct. It's like people somehow know me and enjoy taking shots at me.

Everytime I try to make a normal thread for innocent reasons it always devolves this way, and I'm the one who gets labelled rude. So I will read your responses after but I won't be responding anymore.

[Pierce Dalton]

Steam itself certainly could run on consoles without much hassle, but not its games. That would require the devs to port them.

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FoxDragonVsCatAndOwl eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm not asking for a free game, I want to not be billed twice for multiple versions of one game

You want to see a movie at the cinema, you buy a movie ticket. You later want to watch it on TV, you pay for a Streaming service or buy the DVD.

Games work the same way.

FoxDragonVsCatAndOwl eredeti hozzászólása:

"Or do you have an example?" Yes, actually. I bought a game on an earlier console and then even though I still owned the account when a new console came out, even though the game was on the store, I wasn't allowed to download the game I had already paid for on the account I had bought it on because the base game was overridden by a different version of the game.

You bought a PC game and upgraded to a Mac and you're angry because you cannot run the PC game on the Mac and are forced to buy the Mac version of it.

FoxDragonVsCatAndOwl eredeti hozzászólása:

It would be a Steam app for consoles, or just an app in general, that would allow PC games to be played on consoles using console controls with a controller

It doesn't work that way unless you're using some sort of Streaming service like Geforce or Stadia where the game still runs on a PC somewhere else and is streamed on your device.

[pizza4life]

Even if Valve, they can’t because publishers and console makers doesn’t want that. Publisher and console makers doesn’t want you to buy their games on PC Steam for cheap and then play them on console. Sony wants you to fork out $70 so they can earn money. Sony and Microsoft would ban such an app on their consoles even if it exist.

And even if they want, its not technically feasible. You can’t simply convert a Steam game into fitting for console with just an app. Many different games use many different game engines and API, some of which is proprietary game engine that only their companies have and use.

[wuddih]

Valve/Steam owns exactly zero rights on the games on Steam besides what is involved to get the games to your PC.
developer and publishers are the ones that sell PC games on Steam. Steam is a PC game storefront and a PC game distributor

if you want the developers and publisher to recognize your PC game ownership on Steam on other platforms, you have to talk to those. that is not something Valve/Steam could arrange.

[Brian9824]

Yeah OP as it's been repeatedly said there is no such thing as a magic app that makes PC games playable on consoles.

You'd have to redesign the entire game to work on consoles and consoles wouldn't allow steam on them because it would eat into their sales and it would be direct competition