Remove metacritic scores, add Steam Score instead.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

it is very common to see completely misleading metacritic scores on games here.

good games like dino horde get bad scores and hated games like the recent CoDs and watchdogs get high scores.

and a buttload of games don't have any score at all!

so why not let the Steam community give scores to games?
lets have an upgrade for the review system so that games will get scores based off them?
i know a lot of folks don't like to give game numeric scores, and that's why there is only RECCOMEND and NOT RECCOMEND type reiews.

the Problem is, that a lot of reviews never get any readers and their opinions doesn't get counted so seeing only the top rated reviews is not enough.
the second problem is that some reviews don't really reccomend said game unless it's on a cheap sale.
on the other hand some negative reviews don't say that the mentioned game is bad, it's just not their taste.


so the upgrade that i suggest is to fix all three problems:
Add an indicator of how many people not/reccomend the game.
so instead of metracritic scores you will have a counter that says '74% of the users reccomend this game'

but that shouldn't be all

allow different levels of recommendations. something like 1) DEFIENTLY RECCOMEND 2)i like it a bit 3) nothing special, i pass, and 4) DO NOT BUY THIS GAME.

and each level affect the total avarage of how many people like the game.

this way, everyone's opinions will be counted, the review system will get a very welcome update and the useless metracritic scores will be replaced by something a lot more suitable.

[Black Blade]

First i want to point out i really do not agree with the idea
Second of all i like to point out that metacritic is placed by the Game Dev at these time and as some like them i think they need to stay

Now abut reviews voting, to be honest i was really happy when i seen how the review system works and that it dose not have a % of up or down
Why? you may want to ask
Well i think a system like that is much better then a number, as it makes users read why the user did or did not recommend the game that is a beautiful thing over all

Now if someone do not recommend the game just as its not his taste is that a bad thing? or a not so helpful review as its not saying the game is bad? well yes If the reviews had a score that they do not
Having a not recommend as its not my taste is a great thing for reviews as its showing to who has the same taste as that guy that these game may not fit them..

And even more see how the review system works now, as friends are the first reviews seen if you have friends that review the game, and why is that? as your friends are likely to have the same taste as you, and may then recommend or not by that

And that is also why the recommend or not is great, its must more easy to find one for someone that has a taste for the game and one that dose not to help you decide, having more then that will break that and not allow you to do that,
As well as its not going to help much the user to decide if to buy or not the game

And also having numbers can be first of all abused by the Dev or trolls, and on the other hand is very likely to make users read the reviews less as well as work less for there reviews and more just dump a vote

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

The review score already exist, valve just chooses to not display it. Enhanced steam (plugin) will show you the neg to positive ratio.

[Black Blade]

Originally posted by Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel:

The review score already exist, valve just chooses to not display it. Enhanced steam (plugin) will show you the neg to positive ratio.

Thanks, i forgot to add that XD

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

the problem is that a lot of reviews are not being read because they didn't get any upvotes.

so a game's top voted reviews can be all positive, and sometimes completly unhelpful and just for humor, while the helpful and negative reviews stay in the bottom.

if someone sees that 30% of the users do not recommend the game, he will check their reviews and see why is that.

[Black Blade]

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

the problem is that a lot of reviews are not being read because they didn't get any upvotes.

so a game's top voted reviews can be all positive, and sometimes completly unhelpful and just for humor, while the helpful and negative reviews stay in the bottom.

if someone sees that 30% of the users do not recommend the game, he will check their reviews and see why is that.

You really think they will start to look for there reviews? most likey they will just look at the number and move on

And even more no one is going to read more reviews as of these just less

And if you see a unhelpful review vote it down, if you see a joke review vote it down and reportt it

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel:

The review score already exist, valve just chooses to not display it. Enhanced steam (plugin) will show you the neg to positive ratio.

It is not accurate through. Due to the limits of the Steam API that is used, the % is only for the first 50 "Most Helpful" displayed reviews.

There was a thread about it in the Enhanced Steam Users group, but it appears to have been deleted.

I do agree that Valve has them though.
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OP:

Metacritic shows professional reviews. That is why most people trust them over user reviews.

Valve does not want games judged by a number value with their system. They want people to read the reviews, not just look at an arbitrary number and go "What? Only 65% thumbs up? That is going to be a horrible game!" and, unfortunately, that is exactly what most people do.

[Τhe Rolling Cheese Wheel]

Originally posted by postewar:

This is nice, I wouln't change a thing.
https://mediacru.sh/EPrRq9gPhszf

Woah! Is that all from enhancedsteam @.@?

[Plaxus]

meta critic is useless as a whole. Game reviwers and magazines give bias reviews, often before a game is even released providing false information and the user reviews are just silly and unsound. I have seen people give completely playable games 0/10 and dumb stuff cause... they don't like a characters hair joke. I kid you not.(DMC fans) The game was bad ,but not 0/10 bad. I get a giggle from metacritic and then look up real people who can fomulate opinoins based on more than hate goggles or a little cut in from publishers to give fabricated expereinces for games that barely run.(Looking at you IGN)

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

ok, resonble responses. i accept. but this still didn't fix the problem that some helpful negative reviews don't get the proper exposure, so perhaps add a feature that will force at least one or two negative reviews in a popular game and positive reviews in a hated game

[Black Blade]

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

ok, resonble responses. i accept. but this still didn't fix the problem that some helpful negative reviews don't get the proper exposure, so perhaps add a feature that will force at least one or two negative reviews in a popular game and positive reviews in a hated game

And what if all the Non-recommended reviews are just jokes? then you have 2 of them as the most helpful?

That is why we have 3 tabs, Most Helpful, Most Helpful Recommended and most helpful not recommended
So it easy to see why to do so and why not

Also note that the Most Helpful has some time limit, as if the review has some amount of votes and is also more then two week one with less votes but less then 2 weeks may be shown there as it may be more helpful as its more recent

[Efrén]

+1

[Silver_Psycho]

Muppets... can't find any good games now!

[Strygald]

Originally posted by Milky Chews:

Steam won't add a steam score just having reviews with no overall is better. Using steamdb to get a score if you really want it is better for everyone.

If a game had a bad steam score developers might remove it from steam. Metacritic is a collection of reviews from the gaming community that the developers can't hide from or complain to steam about so they would have no reason to remove their games from steam or moan in anyway to steam. Steam needs to be neutral to devs and consumers or they would not make any money.

What you say makes sense, however looking at Amazon it can be seen that they have no problem making money and they allow users to leave reviews with a 5 star rating system.

So why not leave the metacritic score where it is AND have a 'Steam score' alongside, based on ratings from only owners of a game? Ratings could either be 5 stars or a percentage. If there is a contrast between the metacritic score which is based off professional game critics and the user score then that would make potential customers research a bit more thoroughly before buying.

[Space Coward]

I'd agree with you before the incident with Evolve. Remember that game? I bet you don't, since a bunch of butthurt idiots who didn't actually look into what they were complaining about got to write negative reviews without actually buying the game. All the DLC was cosmetic, yet they cried about how the game was pay to win when they'd never played anything but the alpha and beta that was provided for free.

Also, Dino Horde still deserves that low score and it always will. It's a crappy game with a whiteknight community. If you want to see the easily manipulated Steam score, just hover over where it says Mixed/Mostly/Overwhelmingly/Very Negative/Positive and you'll get a percentage.

[FreeMediaKids!]

Originally posted by Kill-Cam Celebrity:

If you want to see the easily manipulated Steam score, just hover over where it says Mixed/Mostly/Overwhelmingly/Very Negative/Positive and you'll get a percentage.

I was about to say the like. The Steam score would sum up all of Steam users' reviews.