Jaymonski 2018 年 9 月 9 日 下午 5:15
Valve, please let us refuse unwanted gifts
Publishers being able to force their shovelware into our inventory is not cool. The users need to be able to refuse gifts from publishers. Trading it away to a bot account is not a solution. We need to be able to refuse the gift.
And then, percentage of gift refusal can be a stat used to determine which publishers are trolls.

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Start_Running 2018 年 9 月 9 日 下午 5:23 
引用自 Jaymonski
Publishers being able to force their shovelware into our inventory is not cool. The users need to be able to refuse gifts from publishers. Trading it away to a bot account is not a solution. We need to be able to refuse the gift.
And then, percentage of gift refusal can be a stat used to determine which publishers are trolls.
You do realize this would also cover trading cards and booster packs right? Yoiu also know coupons will eventually expire.

Either way I'm all for it. if only because the more people that opt out of receiving random goodies the greater the chances for those remaining.
Satoru 2018 年 9 月 9 日 下午 6:32 
IT sort of amazing how people think "here is something free" is 'trolling'
76561198407601200 2018 年 9 月 9 日 下午 6:43 
引用自 Jaymonski
And then, percentage of gift refusal can be a stat used to determine which publishers are trolls.

That makes absolutely no sense. If one were to receive a coupon for a game that they don't hate, but that they don't plan to purchase, how would them refusing it determine if a publisher is "trolling"? In fact, how does receiving coupons get bunched in with "trolling"? That word is throw around so much that it's lost all meaning.
Meneluma 2018 年 9 月 9 日 下午 10:02 
Can't you decline gifts already?
Or at least I see that option when friends send gifts over, I have never gotten random stuff I am not interested in from developers/publishers themselves.

As for coupons, send them to a dumpster account, there are a few of them.
最后由 Meneluma 编辑于; 2018 年 9 月 9 日 下午 10:04
 KARR™ 2018 年 9 月 10 日 上午 4:48 
They're probably talking about minion masters.

I now have a copy in my library and TWO copies in my inventory - despite never having purchased any of them. The one is non-tradeable, so i can't trade it away, it can only be gifted. They aren't sent as gifts, they arrive directly on your account.

It doesn't bother me sitting there, but some people it may do.
zZzooey.exe 2018 年 9 月 10 日 上午 4:57 
First world problems
wuddih 2018 年 9 月 10 日 上午 5:34 
引用自  KARR™
They're probably talking about minion masters.

I now have a copy in my library and TWO copies in my inventory - despite never having purchased any of them. The one is non-tradeable, so i can't trade it away, it can only be gifted. They aren't sent as gifts, they arrive directly on your account.

It doesn't bother me sitting there, but some people it may do.
the fresh one will become tradable after 30 days as the gift itself mentions
zZzooey.exe 2018 年 9 月 10 日 上午 7:32 
引用自 AustrAlien2010
On the other hand; what about free game content updates?
Those could be considered gifts as well. And they are also forced. They cannot be refused.

If you allow one thing...
I want to refuse devs nerfing my fave hero & downloading that update! REFUSED! #lawsuit #customerrights
最后由 zZzooey.exe 编辑于; 2018 年 9 月 10 日 上午 7:33
laff 2018 年 9 月 10 日 上午 7:33 
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First world problems
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引用自 AustrAlien2010
On the other hand; what about free game content updates?
Those could be considered gifts as well. And they are also forced. They cannot be refused.

If you allow one thing...
I want to refuse devs nerfing my fave hero! REFUSED! #lawsuit #customerrights

Why do you post in the suggestions forum if you refuse to be constructive?
zZzooey.exe 2018 年 9 月 10 日 上午 7:34 
引用自 laff
引用自
First world problems
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I want to refuse devs nerfing my fave hero! REFUSED! #lawsuit #customerrights

Why do you post in the suggestions forum if you refuse to be constructive?
Sarcasm can be constructive, depending how you look at it. Also youre off topic.
Jaymonski 2018 年 9 月 10 日 下午 7:46 
A gift from a publisher shows up in your inventory as an item, it cannot be refused, returned, or deleted, and it never times out. The only current options are to accept it and then hide it in your library, or re-gift it away to a third account specifically set up to accept useless gifts.


Grocery stores are not allowed to place vegetables directly in my fridge. Construction companies are not allowed to place 500 pound rocks in my living room. App store vendors are not allowed to forcibly place apps into my phone. Cable companies are not allowed to fill my DVR with shows of their choosing. Dogs are not allowed to leaving steaming piles anywhere in my house. Why should my steam inventory be any different?

Plenty of publishers have offered free games to their previous customers without directly placing those games into inventory. It should be up to the customer to decide if they want it, and then get it. By placing it directly into inventory without the option to decline, the choice has been taken away.

As for the trolling I mentioned, If a publisher gives away thousands of games, and stats show that a high percentage of them are refused, then that publisher needs to be investigated to see what kind of shovelware they are trying to push.
76561198407601200 2018 年 9 月 10 日 下午 8:49 
引用自 Jaymonski
A gift from a publisher shows up in your inventory as an item, it cannot be refused, returned, or deleted, and it never times out. The only current options are to accept it and then hide it in your library, or re-gift it away to a third account specifically set up to accept useless gifts.


Grocery stores are not allowed to place vegetables directly in my fridge. Construction companies are not allowed to place 500 pound rocks in my living room. App store vendors are not allowed to forcibly place apps into my phone. Cable companies are not allowed to fill my DVR with shows of their choosing. Dogs are not allowed to leaving steaming piles anywhere in my house. Why should my steam inventory be any different?

Plenty of publishers have offered free games to their previous customers without directly placing those games into inventory. It should be up to the customer to decide if they want it, and then get it. By placing it directly into inventory without the option to decline, the choice has been taken away.

As for the trolling I mentioned, If a publisher gives away thousands of games, and stats show that a high percentage of them are refused, then that publisher needs to be investigated to see what kind of shovelware they are trying to push.

A grocery store has coupons through out. A construction company isn't going to randomly bring 500 pound rocks into your living room. Your phone comes with bloatware apps to begin with, yet no complaints from you about it. Cable companies allow advertising of shows, never has one put a show on my dvr if i didn't allow it (back when I had cable at least). If a dog is leaving piles of ♥♥♥♥ in your house, either close your door to not let them in, or potty train your dog (as those are the only 2 likely scenarios that could happen). The publishers aren't forcefully making the game license appear on your account and causing the steam client to download it either. They gave you a coupon for a game, nowhere is the game ever installed from a coupon.
Moderate my posterior. 2018 年 9 月 10 日 下午 10:12 
引用自 Jaymonski
A gift from a publisher shows up in your inventory as an item, it cannot be refused, returned, or deleted, and it never times out. The only current options are to accept it and then hide it in your library, or re-gift it away to a third account specifically set up to accept useless gifts.


Grocery stores are not allowed to place vegetables directly in my fridge. Construction companies are not allowed to place 500 pound rocks in my living room. App store vendors are not allowed to forcibly place apps into my phone. Cable companies are not allowed to fill my DVR with shows of their choosing. Dogs are not allowed to leaving steaming piles anywhere in my house. Why should my steam inventory be any different?

Plenty of publishers have offered free games to their previous customers without directly placing those games into inventory. It should be up to the customer to decide if they want it, and then get it. By placing it directly into inventory without the option to decline, the choice has been taken away.

As for the trolling I mentioned, If a publisher gives away thousands of games, and stats show that a high percentage of them are refused, then that publisher needs to be investigated to see what kind of shovelware they are trying to push.
Your inventory isn't your house. It's not even "yours" by any legal definition. It belongs to Valve.

They also aren't doing anything without your "permission". You AGREED to their control of it the moment you accepted the SSA.

So to make your analogies more accurate: The store is perfectly allowed to put fruit on their shelves. The construction company is perfectly allowed to dump rocks in their yard. The dog can crap any place it chooses within it's house. The APP store is allowed to put any apps it pleases on it's own phone. The cable company can put whatever shows it wants on it's dvr.
{DNJ} YourCurtainsAreUgly 2018 年 9 月 13 日 下午 6:30 
I've started two threads on this issue and once contacted Steam support on this issue. Obviously, it's not getting better. A lot of people here don't get it.

Your inventory isn't your house. It's not even "yours" by any legal definition. It belongs to Valve.

They also aren't doing anything without your "permission". You AGREED to their control of it the moment you accepted the SSA.

You're missing the point. No matter what justification they use, we, or at least I, don't agree with the practice. I don't care to be spammed with advertisements anywhere else. Why would I allow any program to give me push notifications with ads?

Alas, Steam is necessary for a lot of things, and I've used it since it was forced upon me by the Orange Box. If I knew of a way, any way, to opt out of this part of the agreement or whatever justification they are using, I would take it in a heartbeat.
zZzooey.exe 2018 年 9 月 13 日 下午 11:02 
Every platform makes money off sales and ads. Nothing unique to steam itself.
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