Can we have actually proper benefits from Steam points?

[Mary Virgin]

Everywhere gaming sites give you reward points for buying and utilize it so you can buy more games cheap, BUT sadly Valve gives us points with no practical use except buy useless profile enhancements, stickers and stuff we don't really need. How about giving us more discounts on existing games using points? I used it last sale to buy emoticons and wallapers of games I owned and sadly found you can neither sell them or even make gems from them. Its most useless reward system frankly.

So what do people do now? Use it for awarding others mutually and make their community profile look better, inflate their standing and scammers use it to look good. Is this the best Valve can come up with? Please consider making points commercially valid else its useless and a thing to abuse community awards now. Please take it as constructive feedback and criticism.

[Mary Virgin]

What is the suggestion board for if not speak what you think is best way forward? Many sites in past gave purchase points accumulated on purchases and allowed cheaper purchase of new games or bundles redeeming points. DIG bundles or games from Opium Pulses or GMG flash to mind. Is that not a positive way to cement a long purchase relationship and encourage people to buy more games from Steam store? No?

The present use of points for items really leave a lot to be desired. What is the logic of trading it for emojis or backgrounds of games you own but cannot be marketable? Or having tons of flashy things hogging inventory and bound to account but not really amounting to anything productive? I said what I wanted to say. I gave my suggestions. So turning off notifications.

[Tito Shivan]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

They may have a single coupon to redeem for points in a future sale. Outside of sales events, no.

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It looks like they're done entertaining that option seeing how it evolved during the last sales. (from automated discount to none at all)

And now the points are permanent it surely won't cost just 5000 points.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mary Virgin:

The present use of points for items really leave a lot to be desired. What is the logic of trading it for emojis or backgrounds of games you own but cannot be marketable?

You can get those items through the points shop without having to add additional money into the marketplace. And not everyone cares about marketability.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mary Virgin:

What is the suggestion board for if not speak what you think is best way forward?

Aside from suggestions, it is here to discuss said suggestions. Disagreeing and voicing why is part of that as well as pointing out flaws and what one may feel the chances of it happening are.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Eisberg:

It would be cool to see something similar to Ubisoft Connect, where you can buy in game cosmetics with the coins you earn from Ubisoft Connect.

The last few games I purchased from there, no longer had such content to use points for. They also started having the points expire.

I have a feeling they may be slowly phasing them out at this point.

[Satoru]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mary Virgin:

Millions will agree to what iI say. Else points are useless.

Ideas are a dime a dozen

[Satoru]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Mary Virgin:

What is the suggestion board for if not speak what you think is best way forward?

Suggestions are still subject to scrutiy

You are free to suggest things. You're free to suggest very bad ideas like you have

Other are free to critique said bad idea.

[Tito Shivan]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Eisberg:

It would be cool to see something similar to Ubisoft Connect, where you can buy in game cosmetics

In regards in game rewards steam points are kind of in a weird place IMO.
Ubi awards points for playing and you can exchange them for in game cosmetics. They're kind of meta-unlockables. All achieved through playing.

But you get Steam points by buying.

So using points you get by spending money in in game cosmetics makes it kind of a meta-DLC.
If I have to spend money to get points (because you can't earn points by playing unlike Ubi points) to get those cosmetics... Wouldn't it be just easier to actually... Sell them? Or offer them as purchase bonuses?

From a technical standpoint is probably quite easy to do. But not sure how points for it game items may rub people the wrong way. Specially if exclusive.

[The Blue Men]

Steam already has discounts? You want more discounts? Buy games that last long instead of playing 50 new games 10 minutes every month or something.
Yes these visuals are crap, but we already have discounts. Not much point for Valve to make more discounts when they already exist.
Personal discounts are mostly crap, but the public discounts are mostly great and even without discounts..You don't need a million games.
If you can't play games that last longer than 10 hours, you're reaching for a luxurious lifestyle and for a luxurious lifestyle you'll need luxurious income to back it up.
If you can't back it up, you don't get to live the luxurious lifestyle, not legally at least. Or you can do it legally with terrible loopholes like some rich people probably use via their lawyer or whatever those special people are called.
Not much Valve can do about that.

[falkenbbs]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Snapjak:

Let's wait for the millions of replies then.

Count me as one, these points are useless. I'd use them if they would discount games. Otherwise they do nothing for me or someone like the op. I guess that's fine, I would like to opt out though, I don't need to accumulate points I'll never use because to me the reward system has no value since it only makes your profile look different. Can we give them away to someone that will actually want them? I can guarantee I'll never use these useless points unless they discount games.

[Aachen]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από falkenbbs:

.... Can we give them away to someone that will actually want them? I can guarantee I'll never use these useless points unless they discount games.

Awards do so, although the recipient gets one-third of what the granter spends.

[falkenbbs]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από The Blue Men:

Steam already has discounts? You want more discounts? Buy games that last long instead of playing 50 new games 10 minutes every month or something.
Yes these visuals are crap, but we already have discounts. Not much point for Valve to make more discounts when they already exist.
Personal discounts are mostly crap, but the public discounts are mostly great and even without discounts..You don't need a million games.
If you can't play games that last longer than 10 hours, you're reaching for a luxurious lifestyle and for a luxurious lifestyle you'll need luxurious income to back it up.
If you can't back it up, you don't get to live the luxurious lifestyle, not legally at least. Or you can do it legally with terrible loopholes like some rich people probably use via their lawyer or whatever those special people are called.
Not much Valve can do about that.

Sure there is, incentive discounting has been a retail thing for ages. They could put together a lucrative incentive program that allows you to accumulate points you could use to get discounts or free games in the store. Bean counters can figure out what works best for the figures, but it would entice people to make purchases knowing those points will accumulate to get further discounts.

Some games like DCS World have tons of awesome DLC that cost on average $50 to $80, I'd be enticed to buy games if I could discount some of that DLC, but for now I never buy it unless maybe it goes on sale. If JC Penney, Macy's, Dillards and all the major retailers back in the day could come up with incentives, Steam sure as hell can.

[Start_Running]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από falkenbbs:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από The Blue Men:

Steam already has discounts? You want more discounts? Buy games that last long instead of playing 50 new games 10 minutes every month or something.
Yes these visuals are crap, but we already have discounts. Not much point for Valve to make more discounts when they already exist.
Personal discounts are mostly crap, but the public discounts are mostly great and even without discounts..You don't need a million games.
If you can't play games that last longer than 10 hours, you're reaching for a luxurious lifestyle and for a luxurious lifestyle you'll need luxurious income to back it up.
If you can't back it up, you don't get to live the luxurious lifestyle, not legally at least. Or you can do it legally with terrible loopholes like some rich people probably use via their lawyer or whatever those special people are called.
Not much Valve can do about that.

Sure there is, incentive discounting has been a retail thing for ages. They could put together a lucrative incentive program that allows you to accumulate points you could use to get discounts or free games in the store. Bean counters can figure out what works best for the figures, but it would entice people to make purchases knowing those points will accumulate to get further discounts.

And the bean counters are the ones that worked oiut the current systemm.
Look. Valve might do a discount thing again during the next sale but considering it hasn't been a thing for the last 2 sales I would not hold my breath.

Some games like DCS World have tons of awesome DLC that cost on average $50 to $80, I'd be enticed to buy games if I could discount some of that DLC, but for now I never buy it unless maybe it goes on sale.

You do realize that what you say makes no logical sense. If you have the money to spend on games to stockpile points for a discount on the dlc...you have the money to buy the DLC during a sale.

If JC Penney, Macy's, Dillards and all the major retailers back in the day could come up with incentives, Steam sure as hell can.

You'll notice all of those are brick and mortar. They were basically just trying to clear out their inventory. DIgital retailers don't have an inventory management problem.

[Knightwolf]

since this was slight necroed like to add to Spawn of Totoro comment ya points in game sites some are expiring these days, even Disney changed the point system to expire if you don't keep buying stuff

"stockpile points for a discount" on the dlc basically how it works if you don't keep buying like $75.00 for $5.00 off


also before the point system, we didn't have anything so if you bought a game that is what you get, the game and nothing else

[Tolkien Book Fan]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από falkenbbs:

Can we give them away to someone that will actually want them?

Yes, by giving out awards. It doesn't have to be for a good reason, just like how most people seem to hand out awards.

Points aren't used for discounts because you can obtain unlimited number of points by circle-awarding friends, group members and alt accounts.

[Aachen]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ElfSeeker:

.... Points aren't used for discounts because you can obtain unlimited number of points by circle-awarding friends, group members and alt accounts.

How does that work? Awards give less to the recipient than is taken from the granter.

[An Easy Target]

Honestly, aesthetics have their own value. I don't have any friends online, but I still like the prospect of upgrading my profile just so that I can have a private (it may as well be, visitors are pleasant but rare) digital space I can chill out and comprehend my gaming habits.

Now, when I'm already remorseful over having bought a total of about 300 titles during a period of confusion and internal non-existence, and I have a mind to explore and play each one through before buying any, or even many, more; I am yet considering buying anew, *because* of the point system. I'm low on points; I've smelled the blood of a single update to my "rarest achievements" showcase.

It is *only* for those possible points, to use for possible profile showcase upgrades, that I am even considering spending more value online.

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Maybe that's all TMI. Sorry. Point is that aesthetics can be a worthwhile use for participation points.