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chapais 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 5:15

epic offer cheaper and free games will steam do the same

I have being a loyal client of steam for years because (in most case) they offered the cheapest price (trying not take advantage of us) the platform is mostly stable. ok games ... the choice of games that only belong in 1990s out dated graphic .. but at least they are choices.

But they're a new kid on the block. Im sure most became aware of epic, offering free game that I payed 50 plus dollar here on steam. yes it maybe a year after release but still being sold here and free there.... now a new release here the medium on sale at 60 $ on Epic its 49$ same game same stuff...

does steam plan to become absolute like origin and Uplay that everyone knows that that they over charge and offer buggy games regardless of the client comments loosing trust and integrity from people or rethink its prices and game choice?

it would be sad to see this platform follow it predecessor.

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Seretti 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 5:26

We just had this discussion. https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/3114770913752121419/

MalikQayum 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 5:31

buy the games you want from epic and buy the ones you want from steam. if you feel like epic gives better deals 10 out of 10 times then stick to buying games from epic.
it is not a crime to be using 2 clients / 2 storefronts.

EDIT: not only that you are given over 3000 f2p titles to play on steam but developers/publishers giveaway their games on steam. it happens quite a lot. they may not be 60 dollar games but they are given away on steam by the developers/publishers themselves with the help of valve. (many of the epic store giveaways have already been given away on steam.)
epic does not come remotely close to the amount of games given away on the epic store vs the steam store.
(just saying.)

最後修改者：MalikQayum; 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 5:40

Reaper 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 5:47

引用自 MalikQayum：

EDIT: not only that you are given over 3000 f2p titles to play on steam but developers/publishers giveaway their games on steam.
epic does not come remotely close to the amount of games given away on the epic store vs the steam store.
(just saying.)

Unity asset trash isn't a point in steams favor just because it has a massive amount of F2P shovelware

MalikQayum 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 6:26

not every f2p game is an asset flip. i am not interested in a debate about whether or not epic has given more or less games than steam. nor am i going into a discussion about subjective opinions about what quality / trash is.

I made it clear, the OP shouldn't feel "loyal" to a store front or client. the OP should be purchasing and using the store front and client the OP believes is best for the OP and if that is both then that is both.

nobody is preventing the OP from using both clients.. this false narrative that one has to use either one or the other is getting old.

Seraphita 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 6:41

What, OP? You think Epic is tempting in any ways? I'll just say no. Their free stuff whatever it is, is nothing but bait to lure us to them. I'll never forgive them for how they try to get devs on their side and especially how they try to buy them away from steam. I prefer to die.

If you want cheaper than steam while still getting keys, you have many good legit choices approved by steam (or at least not denied by them) by heading to IsThereAnyDeal. Steam offers good deals, too. All of these are enough to keep me here and away from Epic.

最後修改者：Seraphita; 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 6:45

Tolkien Book Fan 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 7:57

These "pay me for loyalty or I leave for Epic" posts actually prove a major flaw in Epic's marketing strategy: once you start buying 'loyalty', it only continues while you pay. When Epic withdraws the free games, those taking the games will rage and then leave (or shrug and continue buying games from Steam). They are not building a genuine customer base, and thus not a threat to Steam. Especially not a Steam that recently passed 25 million concurrent users.

Buggy games are buggy on every platform and/or store they are released. Valve isn't going to fix the problems of other companies' games. And frankly, when people say 'quality control', they always mean is 'only stock what I want'. Steam is a store for everyone, not a charity for the elite.

Spawn of Totoro 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 8:11

引用自 FeaR_TH3_Reap3R：
Unity asset trash isn't a point in steams favor just because it has a massive amount of F2P shovelware

Unity doesn't make a game trash. Many good games also use Unity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unity_games

Every game engine has developers who use it to produce trash. That is on the game's developer though, not the engine they use.

引用自 chapais62：
I have being a loyal client of steam for years because (in most case) they offered the cheapest price (trying not take advantage of us) the platform is mostly stable. ok games ... the choice of games that only belong in 1990s out dated graphic .. but at least they are choices.

But they're a new kid on the block. Im sure most became aware of epic, offering free game that I payed 50 plus dollar here on steam. yes it maybe a year after release but still being sold here and free there.... now a new release here the medium on sale at 60 $ on Epic its 49$ same game same stuff...

does steam plan to become absolute like origin and Uplay that everyone knows that that they over charge and offer buggy games regardless of the client comments loosing trust and integrity from people or rethink its prices and game choice?

it would be sad to see this platform follow it predecessor.

Don't know about your currency, but base prices between Steam and Epic are the same in USD. Developers also set their prices on Steam. I am not sure how it works on the Epic store.

The more game Epic gets, the more likely you are to run into "buggy" games as well.

In the end, buy games where you want and/or where you find them cheaper. Let the stores worry about how they want to compete. They will do what they feel is best for them.

引用自 ElfSeeker：
These "pay me for loyalty or I leave for Epic" posts actually prove a major flaw in Epic's marketing strategy: once you start buying 'loyalty', it only continues while you pay. When Epic withdraws the free games, those taking the games will rage and then leave (or shrug and continue buying games from Steam). They are not building a genuine customer base, and thus not a threat to Steam. Especially not a Steam that recently passed 25 million concurrent users.

Buggy games are buggy on every platform and/or store they are released. Valve isn't going to fix the problems of other companies' games. And frankly, when people say 'quality control', they always mean is 'only stock what I want'. Steam is a store for everyone, not a charity for the elite.

Exactly. Even Origin has to stop with the free games eventually and even came back to Steam.

Eventually the pool used for them drys up and often the users with it.

最後修改者：Spawn of Totoro; 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 8:13

MalikQayum 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 8:22

Just to emphasize that what epic is doing is nothing new to valve/steam. they have been giving away, paid games, for free.
during big events (famously known as the coal farm event.) and other events, those were if i am not mistaken without the devs/pubs permission but i i could be wrong.
valve does in partnership when developers/publishers wishes to giveaway their game work to achieve that. you would have seen those game as no cost, these are games that are normally pay to keep but now free to claim within a period of time and keep permanently.
no costs:
https://steamdb.info/search/?a=sub_keynames&keyname=1&operator=3&keyvalue=0
here is a link to get you started on learning about that.
(Steam has to be the easiest way to access a lot of games without actually having to buy any games. there are games given away by devs all the time, not only that to reiterate there are so many f2p games as well.. so you don't even need to spend money to be able to enjoy some good decent free games on steam.)
but to sum it up:
there is nothing wrong with giving away games. you however are not entitled to them. if a store front has to throw other games at you before you want to purchase something you don't own on their store. then perhaps they might need to revise their business strategy.

EDIT: i personally would never had played fortnite, since i don't like third party shooters, and i mostly end up sticking with cs as my fps game. since my nephews played fortnite, i just went with the flow and installed epic game launcher, i have claimed more or less all the free giveaway games, and i haven't even spent a dime besides buying the battle pass in fortnite.
you can be on both clients and store fronts.(do i enjoy fortnite, not really.)

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B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 10:11

Steam has had far more freely given games than most if not all platforms. Some were given by Valve themselves for free and as an event, along with the devs that gave their games away for free for a limited time.

EPIC only offered free games (which were not really free since they paid for them) to bring over most users, sure many people got the games free but overall it has not helped them at all, and most importantly it will not last forever.

最後修改者：B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t; 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 10:16

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Irene ❤ 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 10:18

I don't think the battle is solely on game price. People can buy a PlayStation if the title is good.

The battle is on community and platform. Steam introduced player profile and recently the reward system to try stay ahead of competition. I feel the direction is good but a lot more can be done.

最後修改者：Irene ❤; 2021 年 2 月 1 日下午 10:18

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Mailer 2021 年 2 月 2 日上午 12:28

引用自 Irene💕：
I don't think the battle is solely on game price. People can buy a PlayStation if the title is good.

The battle is on community and platform. Steam introduced player profile and recently the reward system to try stay ahead of competition. I feel the direction is good but a lot more can be done.

Valve do occupy themselves with an overwhelmingly ambitious amount of features to offer their users, in comparison to other stores.
Everything between the copious Steam Labs experiments and the Steam Awards.

Not everybody is going to be able to make use of all of them at the end of the day but I still think it is a good approach because they have clearly shown that they have a flare for innovating with AI or VR or any means of users sharing game experiences with each other.
I think they are the right company to push for it, like the brain interfacing tidbit, with the copious resources that they have.

最後修改者：Mailer; 2021 年 2 月 2 日上午 12:31

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2021 年 2 月 2 日上午 12:34

Valve gave away games during past sales events as well.

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( ( < < <🤖> > > ) ) 2021 年 2 月 2 日上午 1:44

In the game of market share manipulation we will just
rock side to side on this ship at see choosing between
free games and history and free games and loyalty and
free games and everything else...... but when we hit land
we will find not much has changed... is that a free game
that i probably wont play... and where is the best place
to get my game fix... is that another free game i wont
play... and where is a community i can be part of...
oh.. is that another free game.. dont even like
that one.. but its free.. oh what a whale of a time... moby...

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Nx Machina 2021 年 2 月 2 日上午 1:52

@ chapais62

Epic offer cheaper?

The Outer Worlds - Epic £49.99 - Steam £49.99

Remnant: From the Ashes - Epic £31.99 - Steam £30.99

Humankind Deluxe - Epic £39.83 - Steam £39.83

The Medium - Epic £35.99 - Steam £35.99

Ubisoft are currently holding a sale on the Epic store because they set the prices and decide when to put products on sale as they also do when using the Steam platform.

As for free games on Epic there is only one advantage and it is this:

Civ 6 and Remnant: From the Ashes. I just downloaded them when they were available for free and then realised after playing them for a short time I did not want to play either, uninstalled and forget them and it cost nothing to do that. That is exactly how I personally use Epic.

And one final point when an Epic exclusive comes to Steam it has had a period of fixing bugs, etc and is half price.

So what now is the advantage of using Epic over Steam? None.

最後修改者：Nx Machina; 2021 年 2 月 3 日上午 10:23

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