Show All Free Games In Steam Libraries By Default

[𒐪⎝ Epylector ⎠𒐪]

The following would be a toggleable install option, or a toggleable prompt for current users.

Show all free working Steam games in a FREE collection in all Steam libraries by default, which you can then install by clicking any one of them. This would show Steam’s immediate value off to new users who do not want to explore the rest of Steam, and just want to immediately start gaming for free. Steam would likely gain more installs if it offered this convenience of being an out-of-the-box games package look (though you would of course have to first click to install), and would improve user numbers for free games.

If too many bad free games fill the aforementioned category, better free games could alternatively be offered in as a default STEAM DEFAULT GAMES PACKAGE collection, again toggleable at install if you want this.

This would improve the immediately observable value proposition of Steam for total noobies only wanting a good fun default experience complete with inmediately seen free games.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

They used to do that but users complained when they saw games they didn't add or want in their library so, they changed it.

For your toggle suggestion, default on or off?

[Brian9824]

EpycWyn původně napsal:

If too many bad free games fill the aforementioned category, better free games could alternatively be offered in as a default STEAM DEFAULT GAMES PACKAGE collection, again toggleable at install if you want this.

Stuff like this will never happen. Developers are steams customers. They aren't going to alienate them by saying your game isnt good enough but this game is.

[𒐪⎝ Epylector ⎠𒐪]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce původně napsal:

They used to do that but users complained when they saw games they didn't add or want in their library so, they changed it.

For your toggle suggestion, default on or off?

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce původně napsal:

They used to do that but users complained when they saw games they didn't add or want in their library so, they changed it.

For your toggle suggestion, default on or off?

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Depends. Here are the 3 scenarios.

If just cream-of-the-crop 20 or fewer free games, default on for first-time install.

If all free games, default off for first-time install.

If you are already installed and receive this prompt, default off.

[Frostbringer]

EpycWyn původně napsal:

cSg|mc-Hotsauce původně napsal:

They used to do that but users complained when they saw games they didn't add or want in their library so, they changed it.

For your toggle suggestion, default on or off?

:qr:

cSg|mc-Hotsauce původně napsal:

They used to do that but users complained when they saw games they didn't add or want in their library so, they changed it.

For your toggle suggestion, default on or off?

:qr:

Depends. Here are the 3 scenarios.

If just cream-of-the-crop 20 or fewer free games, default on for first-time install.

If all free games, default off for first-time install.

If you are already installed and receive this prompt, default off.

Who defines if a game is good or bad?

If players want a free game, they can search for them instead of adding additional clutter to the Steam store-front.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce původně napsal:

For your toggle suggestion, default on or off?

If they prefer advertising, default show.
If they prefer respecting user control, default hide.

Given their track record, I would expect Valve to pick default show, but then again they made it hide but without user choice, so...who knows. (My best guess is that they just want to sweep the dissatisfaction under the rug.)

[Nx Machina]

EpycWyn původně napsal:

Depends. Here are the 3 scenarios.

If just cream-of-the-crop 20 or fewer free games, default on for first-time install.

If all free games, default off for first-time install.

If you are already installed and receive this prompt, default off.

Depends? The "scenario" is "Show All Free Games In Steam Libraries By Default", your thread title which is then contradicted with, "The following would be a toggleable install option, or a toggleable prompt for current users."

Create a collection called Free Games and add them - problem solved.

[wuddih]

6000 free games on Steam.
very nice way to nuke every new user to alternative platforms to shove any amount of them without permission into libraries.
a setting for it would still be without permission, average user logic.

[Tito Shivan]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce původně napsal:

They used to do that but users complained when they saw games they didn't add or want in their library so, they changed it.

It's also a 'discoverability' issue. What's convenient for users may not be convenient for the site.

Steam is ultimately a Store. As such its purpose is to have people buying games.
An option to have every free game shown in your library can cause sort of a 'sating' effect.
"Oh look I just booted Steam and have 2000 free games!"

Who's going to buy stuff?

Free games are a tool, and as such it has its uses. Putting them all on the library with a click I'm afraid it isn't one of the 'right' ones (As much as it'd be convenient to its users)

It's like if Epic simply added the free games to your library instead of having you go and claim them from the store. The free game is a tool to drive visits to the store (periodically and such increase familiarity with the service) They don't automatically add them to your account or do it in bulk (Here take all the games we'll be giving away this year right here and now)

Or if like a store put all the free samples at the store entrance, instead of scattered through the store. Sure I'd find the former more convenient If I was around for the freebies but it's not how it's supossed to work.

[Crazy Tiger]

No thanks, I don't need free games added to my library. I decide myself which licenses I want tied to my account, thank you.

[Edifier]

Even back in the days when just a few free games would pop up on your library list there people mad as hell about it.

Now with far FAR more they actually have a good reason not to want it.

I wouldn't notice because the only time I ever check my uninstalled list is when I actually plan to re install an old game. Which I do once a year or so.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Nx Machina původně napsal:

EpycWyn původně napsal:

Depends. Here are the 3 scenarios.

If just cream-of-the-crop 20 or fewer free games, default on for first-time install.

If all free games, default off for first-time install.

If you are already installed and receive this prompt, default off.

Depends? The "scenario" is "Show All Free Games In Steam Libraries By Default", your thread title which is then contradicted with, "The following would be a toggleable install option, or a toggleable prompt for current users."

How is this a contradiction? Anytime there's a toggleable option, there's always a default.

In OP's case I disagree with 'eir choice of global default, but a per-user editable default would suit 'em well.

Nx Machina původně napsal:

Create a collection called Free Games and add them - problem solved.

The user can currently do this, but I think OP is asking for some way to restore the functionality that Steam used to have in regards to temporarily-free games like free weekends.

wuddih původně napsal:

6000 free games on Steam.
very nice way to nuke every new user to alternative platforms to shove any amount of them without permission into libraries.
a setting for it would still be without permission, average user logic.

Like I mentioned, I think the OP is talking about adding temporarily-free games like free weekends.

[Nx Machina]

Quint the Alligator Snapper původně napsal:

How is this a contradiction? Anytime there's a toggleable option, there's always a default.

Read what was written and not what you want it to say.

Thread Title - Show All Free Games In Steam Libraries By Default <<<<<< DEFAULT

Contradicted by - The following would be a toggleable install option, or a toggleable prompt for current users.

Or does the title read "Show All Free Games In Steam Libraries By Default (Toggleable), in fact it does not and why it is contradictory.

So which one is it? - By Default or Toggleable?

Quint the Alligator Snapper původně napsal:

The user can currently do this, but OP is asking for some way to restore the functionality that Steam used to have in regards to free games.

The OP makes no reference to knowing it was a previous function, do they? No they made a suggestion to add it and not a request to have it back.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Nx Machina původně napsal:

Quint the Alligator Snapper původně napsal:

How is this a contradiction? Anytime there's a toggleable option, there's always a default.

Read what was written and not what you want it to say.

Thread Title - Show All Free Games In Steam Libraries By Default <<<<<< DEFAULT

Contradicted by - The following would be a toggleable install option, or a toggleable prompt for current users.

Or does the title read "Show All Free Games In Steam Libraries By Default (Toggleable), in fact it does not.

So which one is it OP - By Default or Toggleable?

Like I already said, every toggleable option has a default. The title doesn't need to spell out all the details for you to know they're there, does it?

Nx Machina původně napsal:

Quint the Alligator Snapper původně napsal:

The user can currently do this, but OP is asking for some way to restore the functionality that Steam used to have in regards to free games.

The OP makes no reference to knowing it was a previous function, do they? No they made a suggestion to add it and not a request to have it back.

OP doesn't need to know it was a previous function for the obvious comparison to be made.

[Nx Machina]

Quint the Alligator Snapper původně napsal:

Like I already said, every toggleable option has a default. The title doesn't need to spell out all the details for you to know they're there, does it?

Yes it does as it a suggestion is it not and the title should reflect that but the OP clearly stated what the default was in the thread title.

Quint the Alligator Snapper původně napsal:

OP doesn't need to know it was a previous function for the obvious comparison to be made.

And yet you posted - you "think the OP is asking to restore functionality" Is there any indication of that in the OP post? - no, so logically they are making a request for a feature to be added.

Quint the Alligator Snapper původně napsal:

The user can currently do this, but I think OP is asking for some way to restore the functionality that Steam used to have in regards to temporarily-free games like free weekends.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Nx Machina původně napsal:

Quint the Alligator Snapper původně napsal:

Like I already said, every toggleable option has a default. The title doesn't need to spell out all the details for you to know they're there, does it?

Yes it does as it a suggestion is it not and the title should reflect that but the OP clearly stated what the default was in the thread title.

And the fact that OP suggested a default doesn't preclude there being an option. Not to mention that Steam doesn't need to implement every suggestion exactly as suggested without changes, anyway.

Nx Machina původně napsal:

Quint the Alligator Snapper původně napsal:

OP doesn't need to know it was a previous function for the obvious comparison to be made.

And yet you posted - you "think the OP is asking to restore functionality" Is there any indication of that in the OP post? - no so logically they are making a request for a feature.

A feature can be something that restores functionality previously but not currently present. I don't see what the problem is here.