Steam Deck

Steam Deck

The Steam Deck/Steam in general really needs an easy to use built in Framerate limiter option for older games, as well as easy to find resources on how to fix older games.
There are games on Steam that can work just fine for the most part, But due to the fact they were made for much older hardware PC's can far exceed the intended Framerates for those games now, and they don't have built in FPS cap, since this was never conceived as a potential problem back then.

Max Payne 1 has the Jumping broken during the nightmare platforming segments broken when above 60 FPS.
Blood Omen 2 has Elevators Broken when above the intended FPS.
Star Wars Shadows of the Empire needs an FPS cap since the game speed is tied to the Frame Rate, and when above the intended FPS the game speeds up too fast to play.

Any game that ties it's game physics to the Frame Rate is affected by this issue, and while I can just use a program like RivaTuner, Shouldn't this be a Feature native to Steam if the Steam Deck is going to be able to play "Every Game on Steam" I can imagine people new to PC Gaming but ones that love games as old or older then the games I mentioned above, and they'd be very disappointed when they're just trying to play an Old Favorite and it's broken for a reason they don't understand.

At the Very least Games on Steam could have a clear link to their pages on the PC Gaming Wiki, so it would be easy for people to find the Fixes to all the old games that require tinkering to get functioning properly on Modern Hardware. I'v seen many people confused on trying to fix an old game, and they don't even know the PC Gaming wiki exists to give them all the answers they need.
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Sazzouu Jul 22, 2021 @ 12:25am 
It has a 60Hz Display... Vsync that thing and you're good to go.

Also it is a PC with I assume less power than your gaming rig. If your PC can propperly run the named games this thing should do fine as well. You can even put your favourite OS and software onto it.

There is Zero need to Limit the user in any way
Last edited by Sazzouu; Jul 22, 2021 @ 12:26am
Nx Machina Jul 22, 2021 @ 12:38am 
Each game has a forum where solutions can be found. A quick search with Google or another search engine will show results of "ABC game fails to launch on Windows 10". Why then does it need to be native to Steam. No other PC game client has this option.

Developers maintain the store pages so they could add whatever additional information they need to, such as links to fixes but are not required to.
Last edited by Nx Machina; Jul 22, 2021 @ 11:57am
Crazy Tiger Jul 22, 2021 @ 3:58am 
Originally posted by Director Bison:
At the Very least Games on Steam could have a clear link to their pages on the PC Gaming Wiki, so it would be easy for people to find the Fixes to all the old games that require tinkering to get functioning properly on Modern Hardware. I'v seen many people confused on trying to fix an old game, and they don't even know the PC Gaming wiki exists to give them all the answers they need.
Up to the developers/publishers to do that, though I doubt many would do that. PC Gaming wiki is a community website, not an officially supported website. Often enough some guides in the guide section have everything one needs, though.
Guybrush Jul 22, 2021 @ 11:33am 
There are AMD open & closed source linux drivers but I cant recall if they provide a control panel for the open source driver, I dont think so which if true may indeed pose a problem for PC gamers accustomed to such things. Assuming SteamOS uses the open source drivers.

There is a third party tool called radeon profile on github that acts as a kind of control panel to the GPU but its more for overclocking.

There are frame rate limiters tool on linux but some of these may be lacking a GUI so again be not so user friendly to windows users accustomed to the likes of rivatuner and GPU control panels.

Hopefully Valve work with AMD to provide some kind of basic GPU control panel in Steam OS.
WarnerCK Jul 22, 2021 @ 11:47am 
I'm pretty sure that the Steam Deck is going to be using gamescope.[github.com]
Director Bison Jul 22, 2021 @ 2:02pm 
Originally posted by Sazzouu:
It has a 60Hz Display... Vsync that thing and you're good to go.

Also it is a PC with I assume less power than your gaming rig. If your PC can propperly run the named games this thing should do fine as well. You can even put your favourite OS and software onto it.

There is Zero need to Limit the user in any way
This isn't a matter of Limiting the user, it's a matter of giving people easy access to the tools and information they need.

Up until it was updated Recently Blood Rayne was broken when ran above 30fps, as 60 Vsync didn't help, it needed to be 30fps, so I needed RivaTuner at the time. Grand theft Auto 3 is broken when above 30fps, but at the very least that game actually does have a 30fps Cap in it's options.

Originally posted by Nx Machina:
Each game has a forum where solutions can be found. A quick search with Google or another search engine will show results of "ABC game fails to launch on Windows 10". Why then does it need to be native to Steam. No other PC game client has this option.

Developers maintain the store pages so they could add whatever additional information they need to, such as links to fixes but are not required to.
You tell me why these kind of information and options shouldn't be Native to Steam, Yes Ideally Developers should be the ones to keep their games up to date, but let's face it allot of games have just been abandoned.
And yes the game forum can be quite helpful, but I'm just concerned about people entering into PC gaming for the first time who are simply not a custom this process, I'm just trying to think what is the easiest way to inform people about everything. when you buy a game on Steam, and it doesn't work correctly just from an Install, Then at the very least shouldn't Steam have the tools needed to fix it?
there are games like the Stand alone Version of Devil May Cry 3 when due to being out of date, when that game is trying to be played with an Xbox controller the Control Sticks are Swapped, That issue Could be fixed using Steam Big Picture's costume Controls, Why Couldn't Something like community Submitted Settings for older games also be implemented and easy use.
Nx Machina Jul 22, 2021 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by Director Bison:
You tell me why these kind of information and options shouldn't be Native to Steam, Yes Ideally Developers should be the ones to keep their games up to date, but let's face it allot of games have just been abandoned.

Because it is not required when we live in the information age and a search is all that is needed, hell when I started PC gaming there were no wikis, guides etc.

Why not write a guide yourself and list all the resources?

No issues running games on my PC including ones seen as been abandoned, broken etc and if there was I would search for a solution on the net or solve it myself.

Originally posted by Director Bison:
And yes the game forum can be quite helpful, but I'm just concerned about people entering into PC gaming for the first time who are simply not a custom this process, I'm just trying to think what is the easiest way to inform people about everything. when you buy a game on Steam, and it doesn't work correctly just from an Install, Then at the very least shouldn't Steam have the tools needed to fix it?

That is the joy of PC gaming - discovery and problem solving whether by yourself or via other sources but as pointed out developers are responsible for their store pages and only they can decide what is included. Valve are hands off.

Originally posted by Director Bison:
there are games like the Stand alone Version of Devil May Cry 3 when due to being out of date, when that game is trying to be played with an Xbox controller the Control Sticks are Swapped, That issue Could be fixed using Steam Big Picture's costume Controls, Why Couldn't Something like community Submitted Settings for older games also be implemented and easy use.

There are custom controller configs that can be used but only if users submit them.
Last edited by Nx Machina; Jul 26, 2021 @ 11:21pm
ToysRsus Jul 22, 2021 @ 2:18pm 
Either Valve provide it or you can just build it in. It's Linux. We can do what we want. And we can do it in a way that everybody can do it. Watch Microsofts Github.
Last edited by ToysRsus; Jul 22, 2021 @ 2:19pm
Director Bison Jul 22, 2021 @ 2:49pm 
Originally posted by Nx Machina:
Why not write a guide yourself and list all the resources?
I'd be happy to, but my question is How can such a guide Reach everyone who would need it? It's not about listing the Information it's about making that information impossible to miss for those new to PC gaming, how do you teach people the good habits they should learn?

Originally posted by Nx Machina:
Any that is the joy of PC gaming - discovery and problem solving whether by yourself or via other sources but as pointed out developers are responsible for their store pages and only they can decide what is included. Valve are hands off.
I understand the idea of enjoying the process of figuring out how to improve a game beyond it's original limitations with fan patches and such. but do you really think, "You need to fix this game yourself, because in it's default state it's broken" is a selling point?
I was able to play Star Wars Dark Forces 1 just fine, but after beating It. It took me 5 YEARS before I was able to Finally figure out how to get Star Wars Dark Forces 2 to work because of how Hard it is to fix that game, do you expect me to recommend that Experience to people?

Originally posted by Nx Machina:
There are custom controller configs that can be used but only if users submit them.
Yeah that's what I was saying, The User submitted Custom Controls are a great feature, and there could be User submitted settings for old games as well.
Not everyone is going to enjoy buying an old classic they want to try and figuring out how to get it to work.
Last edited by Director Bison; Jul 22, 2021 @ 2:52pm
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Date Posted: Jul 21, 2021 @ 10:09pm
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