Remove 'Anti Hate Speech' rules

[LCPL. Shishkin]

Hate speech, or the term used to describe anything hateful, discriminatory, or otherwise, is an intentionally vague and frankly stupid way to censor free speech and to destroy any kind of free thought or discussion, even in private.

Having such content in your profile as;

- antisemitism (non violent)

- pro-palestinism (non violent)

- anti-muslim (non violent)

- anti-monopolism (this doesn't mean communism)

or even so much as OFFENDING someone in private can have your account suspended.

The steam community is quickly becoming political as it is about gaming. No one should have a right to censor, alter, or attack free thought. I'm not going to try and say that they should respect 'muh first amendment', as that only applies to the law. I'm asking Valve to please consider that their decisions to mass-ban any and all right wing or nationalist sentiment is a rollercoaster to 1984.

Even those who aren't political may be in some way effected by this. On twitter, these same rules are used to censor even conservatives. Anything that offends anyone (excluding right wingers, you can offend and repulse them all you want) is censored.

Is this where Steam is heading? Some of my friends have gotten banned multiple times for having memes of all things, on their profile. I've had to make my profile private to avoid the steam thought police myself.


The term 'hate speech' is intentionally vague and is used to censor non-kosher thoughts and arguments.

[LCPL. Shishkin]

cinedine님이 먼저 게시:

Also in the rules:

Do not post any content on Steam containing the following:
- Religious, political, and other “prone to huge arguments” threads

There is not even a mention about "hate speech". It's

- Racism, discrimination
- Abusive language, including swearing

Which are not part of a "civil" discussion about your believes and point of views.
So you're complaining about an issue that doesn't exist.

But again, what does racism even mean? As I stated before, stating your opinions in a civil and cordial way, no matter what your view on a given issue, should be accepted.



And yes, you can be civil while being 'racist', but I won't discuss that for right now.

I haven't once swore, by the way, so I don't know why you included that

[999999999]

Anything racist is not allowed. Even if discussed in a civilized manner.

[LCPL. Shishkin]

999999999님이 먼저 게시:

Anything racist is not allowed. Even if discussed in a civilized manner.

I think that's a bit premature, even for a company like Valve. Why are some kinds of speech not allowed yet others are?

And I'm not just talking about Steam here, either. This extends to other platforms too. More and more, we're being censored for giving our thoughts on issues deemed 'too offensive'.

[999999999]

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Festive Delta님이 먼저 게시:

999999999님이 먼저 게시:

Anything racist is not allowed. Even if discussed in a civilized manner.

I think that's a bit premature, even for a company like Valve. Why are some kinds of speech not allowed yet others are?

And I'm not just talking about Steam here, either. This extends to other platforms too. More nad more, we're being censored for giving our thoughts on issues deemed 'too offensive'.

You can post all your racist thoughts on your own domain/forum/blog, it has no place on any public forum.

[LCPL. Shishkin]

🎄Rockon님이 먼저 게시:

Festive Delta님이 먼저 게시:

I think that's a bit premature, even for a company like Valve. Why are some kinds of speech not allowed yet others are?

And I'm not just talking about Steam here, either. This extends to other platforms too. More nad more, we're being censored for giving our thoughts on issues deemed 'too offensive'.

You can post all your racist thoughts on your own domain/forum/blog, it has no place on any publick forum.

Again, in my case, I never once stated my views on any forum, yet I was banned for simply having /pol/ memes on my artwork. I was harassed by a specific commie group that had been mass flagging supposed 'neo nazis'.

I'm stating simply that having unpopular opinions should not be a bannable offence, and discussing said opinions should be embraced at least privately.

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Festive Delta님이 먼저 게시:

🎄Rockon님이 먼저 게시:

You can post all your racist thoughts on your own domain/forum/blog, it has no place on any publick forum.

Again, in my case, I never once stated my views on any forum, yet I was banned for simply having /pol/ memes on my artwork. I was harassed by a specific commie group that had been mass flagging supposed 'neo nazis'.

If the shoe fits.
Don't drag your dirt from that site to Steam, it is as simple as that.

[cinedine]

Festive Delta님이 먼저 게시:

I'm stating simply that having unpopular opinions should not be a bannable offence, and discussing said opinions should be embraced at least privately.

You can discuss whatever the ♥♥♥♥ you want privately. But as soon as it is on Steam, it's public.
Having "unpopular opinions" is also not bannable. I will stand here and defending my position on Half-Life 2 being an overrated physics puzzle that has not stand the test of time. On Valve's own forums. But political opinions and other stuff have no place in a gaming forum, doesn't matter if popular or not.

[LCPL. Shishkin]

cinedine님이 먼저 게시:

Festive Delta님이 먼저 게시:

I'm stating simply that having unpopular opinions should not be a bannable offence, and discussing said opinions should be embraced at least privately.

You can discuss whatever the ♥♥♥♥ you want privately. But as soon as it is on Steam, it's public.
Having "unpopular opinions" is also not bannable. I will stand here and defending my position on Half-Life 2 being an overrated physics puzzle that has not stand the test of time. On Valve's own forums. But political opinions and other stuff have no place in a gaming forum, doesn't matter if popular or not.

Valve's games in general aren't that great.. more or less they've done best at shooters and puzzle games. L4D was just a cash-in on the zombie-shooter market.

I understand what you're saying though, this is still a gaming platform.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Not going to happen.

Festive Delta님이 먼저 게시:

Again, in my case, I never once stated my views on any forum, yet I was banned for simply having /pol/ memes on my artwork. I was harassed by a specific commie group that had been mass flagging supposed 'neo nazis'.

One pice of artwork. Appropriately banned for what it was. It also highlights why such things are not allowed.