Revoke Steam Achievements for People with VAC/Game Bans

[Sergeant Slutshame]

Steam should clear an account's achievements if they get a vac ban, or at the very least, clear the achievements of the game they got the ban in. This makes achievements more rewarding to try and acquire, as fewer accounts will have them, and less people will have them illegitimately, meaning achievement hunters can feel much more accomplished after acquiring a particularly difficult achievement.

[999999999]

Originally posted by StormFourStrings:

Revoke Steam Achievements for People with VAC/Game Bans

Steam should clear an account's achievements if they get a vac ban, or at the very least, clear the achievements of the game they got the ban in. This makes achievements more rewarding to try and acquire, as fewer accounts will have them, and less people will have them illegitimately, meaning achievement hunters can feel much more accomplished after acquiring a particularly difficult achievement.

They can't reset achievements for game they did not make. Developers of those game must add that feature.

This also sounds kind of petty.

[CJ HUNTER]

I feel you, but I don't see the point because people cheat achievements all the time and there are no consequences because nobody cares. As long as SAM is a thing, those percentages you are talking about mean absolutely nothing, unfortunately.

[Sergeant Slutshame]

Originally posted by 999999999:

Originally posted by StormFourStrings:

Revoke Steam Achievements for People with VAC/Game Bans

Steam should clear an account's achievements if they get a vac ban, or at the very least, clear the achievements of the game they got the ban in. This makes achievements more rewarding to try and acquire, as fewer accounts will have them, and less people will have them illegitimately, meaning achievement hunters can feel much more accomplished after acquiring a particularly difficult achievement.

They can't reset achievements for game they did not make. Developers of those game must add that feature.

This also sounds kind of petty.

Not entirely certain what you mean by "petty." If you cheat in a game, does it not make sense to punish the person for it? At that point it's likely that they don't deserve the "achievements" they have, hence the name, so why not revoke them? I understand that that power may lie in the hands of the game devs, but I believe it's still a good idea for games that run VAC, the most popular of which are VALVe games.

[Sergeant Slutshame]

Originally posted by CJ HUNTER:

I feel you, but I don't see the point because people cheat achievements all the time and there are no consequences because nobody cares. As long as SAM is a thing, those percentages you are talking about mean absolutely nothing, unfortunately.

I get that it's relatively difficult to curb something like SAM, especially when it's sometimes impossible to distinguish between somebody who cheated their achievements and somebody who just played in offline mode, but it still just kind of annoys me. It's a bit of a tease. What's the point of having achievements if people can just cheat to get them in the first place?

[999999999]

Great...

Now read the reply CJ HUNTER gave about SAM.

That is why achievements are basically meaningless to a portion of the userbase.

[Sergeant Slutshame]

Originally posted by 999999999:

Great...

Now read the reply CJ HUNTER gave about SAM.

I replied to it before you responded with this.

[B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t]

If you cheat in a game, then you'll get a VAC or a game ban, that is all that is needed for punishment and achievements mean nothing anyways so I don't see why resetting them would matter since people use cheat program to unlock them all anyways.

[Cicala Kid]

If earning achievement did grant any prize but bragging right rewards I'd agree with you.

But they don't, all that matters to me is that I achieved X, if some idiot cheated it I don't care.
I earned my bragging rights anyway.

[Sergeant Slutshame]

Originally posted by Insetto Kid:

If earning achievement did grant any prize but bragging right rewards I'd agree with you.

But they don't, all that matters to me is that I achieved X, if some idiot cheated it I don't care.
I earned my bragging rights anyway.

The more people who can feign those bragging rights, the less valuable they become on a personal and public level.

[MrL0G1C]

Overkill, VAC banned people are VAC banned - that's the punishment. I've never been banned from a game, mostly because I rarely ever play multi-player. But I think the permanent VAC ban is too long, a decade is more than enough. I think having a permanent ban will encourage people to just start new accounts rather than wait it out.

[Sergeant Slutshame]

Originally posted by B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t:

If you cheat in a game, then you'll get a VAC or a game ban, that is all that is needed for punishment and achievements mean nothing anyways so I don't see why resetting them would matter since people use cheat program to unlock them all anyways.

If somebody acquires something illegitimately (thievery, counterfeiting, etc) the things that they attained as a direct result of those things are confiscated from them upon being punished. This is a very simple concept to understand.

[B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t]

Originally posted by Insetto Kid:

If earning achievement did grant any prize but bragging right rewards I'd agree with you.

Some games do that, the most I've seen is thatsome games reward Team Fortress 2 achievement items.

[Sergeant Slutshame]

Originally posted by MrL0G1C:

Overkill, VAC banned people are VAC banned - that's the punishment. I've never been banned from a game, mostly because I rarely ever play multi-player. But I think the permanent VAC ban is too long, a decade is more than enough. I think having a permanent ban will encourage people to just start new accounts rather than wait it out.

Say you make a lot of counterfeit money, then use that money to purchase a ♥♥♥♥ ton of stuff. When you get caught using counterfeit money, your legal system doesn't just let you keep the ♥♥♥♥ you bought with it. If you acquire something illegitimately, which is a certainty with cheaters, you should have that thing taken away from you.

[CJ HUNTER]

Originally posted by StormFourStrings:

Say you make a lot of counterfeit money, then use that money to purchase a ♥♥♥♥ ton of stuff. When you get caught using counterfeit money, your legal system doesn't just let you keep the ♥♥♥♥ you bought with it. If you acquire something illegitimately, which is a certainty with cheaters, you should have that thing taken away from you.

A very good point indeed.

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sounds useless