Adjust pricing right.

[The Fonze]

So this really pertains to people who live in a state or such that charges digital goods taxes. Its messed up how they advertised tax free sales but in itty bitty fine print they state the exceptions which is a piss poor way to go about it.

Why cant they put the final price on the stores page, your wishlist, and email notifications? They shouldnt advertise ANYTHING as tax free, but then on the next page its not tax free. This is text book fraudulent advertising.

"Hey, that game on your wishlist is 2.99 and you can afford it! "
**Next Page**
"Jk, its taxed. Get rekt, washington scrub."

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

You should know that your state taxes digital goods and they don't need to add it to the price on the store page.

What retailer does that in the US for you?

[The Fonze]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

You should know that your state taxes digital goods and they don't need to add it to the price on the store page.

What retailer does that in the US for you?

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Thank you for pointing out the argument. Itunes is one, for i have never paid a tax for music downloads. Even on Google Play i dont get taxed. When and if applicable, the price is always adjusted. I noticed tthis with itunes. A song was 99 cents in Cali. Moved to Washington, and thats
when i noticed the song that was 99 cents was now 1.49. Retailers, especially steam, should always do this otherwise its a form of fraud. Especially when you ask the client,"Show me games I can buy with my steam wallet cash" and it shows you a game, then after confirming its for you it then tells you "Oh btw your being taxed."

[Moderate my posterior.]

Not a form of fraud. I suggest finding a dictionary if you are confused. You will probably have to pay tax on it.

[MrL0G1C]

I don't recall any steam sales saying tax free, but maybe that's because of my location. It does seem pointless and antagonistic to claim a tax-free sale and then charge tax. Just don't say tax-free at all ever, it's not necessary at all.

[Moderate my posterior.]

he's not complaining that it said tax free. he's complaining because the tax isnt added until the precheckout screen.

[The Fonze]

Originally posted by Moderate my posterior.:

Not a form of fraud. I suggest finding a dictionary if you are confused. You will probably have to pay tax on it.

If the seller advertises the product at a fixed price, but then turns around and says its more due to tax they didnt include in their advertisment is fraud.

If I were a business and i tried to sell a product through craigslist what would you call it when I say its 20 dollars and thats it, but then as soon as you try to pay, i add in 5 dollars. You ask what for, and I say taxes since im a business. "But wait, it was advertised as only 20 dollars. There was no signs of taxation." Oh well, learn your state laws.

Point being they advertised a product as a fixed price. No talk of sales tax whatsoever. This would be different IF STEAM WAS A GROCERY OR HARDWARE STORE. However its not, it doesnt sell consumable goods nor does it have a physical location, other than the headquarters in Bellevue Washington

[The Fonze]

Originally posted by Moderate my posterior.:

he's not complaining that it said tax free. he's complaining because the tax isnt added until the precheckout screen.

you dont read my comments, do you?

Originally posted by Malcolm Tucker:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

You should know that your state taxes digital goods and they don't need to add it to the price on the store page.

What retailer does that in the US for you?

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Especially when you ask the client,"Show me games I can buy with my steam wallet cash" and it shows you a game, then after confirming its for you it then tells you "Oh btw your being taxed."

[Moderate my posterior.]

Originally posted by Malcolm Tucker:

Originally posted by Moderate my posterior.:

Not a form of fraud. I suggest finding a dictionary if you are confused. You will probably have to pay tax on it.

If the seller advertises the product at a fixed price, but then turns around and says its more due to tax they didnt include in their advertisment is fraud.

If I were a business and i tried to sell a product through craigslist what would you call it when I say its 20 dollars and thats it, but then as soon as you try to pay, i add in 5 dollars. You ask what for, and I say taxes since im a business. "But wait, it was advertised as only 20 dollars. There was no signs of taxation." Oh well, learn your state laws.

Point being they advertised a product as a fixed price. No talk of sales tax whatsoever. This would be different IF STEAM WAS A GROCERY OR HARDWARE STORE. However its not, it doesnt sell consumable goods nor does it have a physical location, other than the headquarters in Bellevue Washington

Nope. Still wrong actually. They do not need to show tax on an advertised price. The tax is not even charged by the retailer it's charged by the government. So go ahead and sue your state government. Good luck on that.Tax does NOT need to be included in the advertised price by law in washington.

[The Fonze]

Originally posted by Moderate my posterior.:

Originally posted by Malcolm Tucker:

If the seller advertises the product at a fixed price, but then turns around and says its more due to tax they didnt include in their advertisment is fraud.

If I were a business and i tried to sell a product through craigslist what would you call it when I say its 20 dollars and thats it, but then as soon as you try to pay, i add in 5 dollars. You ask what for, and I say taxes since im a business. "But wait, it was advertised as only 20 dollars. There was no signs of taxation." Oh well, learn your state laws.

Point being they advertised a product as a fixed price. No talk of sales tax whatsoever. This would be different IF STEAM WAS A GROCERY OR HARDWARE STORE. However its not, it doesnt sell consumable goods nor does it have a physical location, other than the headquarters in Bellevue Washington

Nope. Still wrong actually. They do not need to show tax on an advertised price. The tax is not even charged by the retailer it's charged by the government. So go ahead and sue your state government. Good luck on that.Tax does NOT need to be included in the advertised price by law in washington.

They do need to tell you thy charge sales tax though. Steam did not until it was ready to withdraw the rest of the funds from my credit card, which was saved despite me clearly not checking the "save my credit card information" box ever.

What steam did to me was send me was advertise a game from my wishlist that i could afford based on checking a "show me games for less than my steam wallet" button. I added it to my cart, and steam asked if i was done shopping or if i wanted to check out. I then clicked ready to check out. Then it took me to a page asking to withdraw from my credit card I only used once and I knew I didnt save. Then and only then did it tell me about sales tax where applicable.

So yes, they can charge washington peeps taxes. What they cant do and did and what you dont understand is not tell me about the sales tax, despite never being taxed before.

Infact, I bought games during the sale and they werent taxed AT ALL.

[Moderate my posterior.]

They told you EXACTLY when they were required to. At precheckout, since the store itself doesn't even KNOW where you live .

I really suggest you read up your own tax laws since even a dictionary isn't going to help you here. Not liking it and ranting here isn't going to help you one bit.

Ignorance is no defense.

here I'll even make it easy for you. https://dor.wa.gov/find-taxes-rates/retail-sales-tax/marketplace-fairness-leveling-playing-field/use-tax-notice-and-reporting-requirements
They have to notify you in general just for coming. This was done, you agreed that you read the subscribers agreement when you signed up, this tells you plainly that sales tax is collected when required. EXACTLY as washington law requires. Next they have to notify you at time of purchase. You already admitted they did that.

Congrats they have met their legal and moral obligations.

Keep throwing around words like fraud though if they make you feel better, but the only error is your own.

Hell they could even not collect it and you'd still be on the hook for the tax and would have to pay it seperate directly to the government. And you'd be in a lot of trouble if you didn't.

[aiusepsi]

As far as I'm aware, Steam does what is customary for your jurisdiction.

I believe the practice in America is to have prices displayed without the sales tax included, and Steam lists prices without sales tax included. Over here in Europe, VAT (i.e. sales tax, at least from the point-of-view of a consumer) is always included in prices, and so Steam includes VAT in the prices.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Steam must charge taxes in states where they have a physical presense in.

Wisconsin, Illinois and Washington.

[Satoru]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Steam must charge taxes in states where they have a physical presense in.

Wisconsin, Illinois and Washington.

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The OP issue, which is kind hard to decipher, is more that there necessity of sales tax is not obvious until checkout

Which is a bizarre notion given that literally every store operating in the USA, that collects sales tax, including I will add Amazon, doesn't show you the sales tax as part of the store price either. Its only calculated on checkout.

So bizarrely the OP is asking that the store page somehow loudly and includes the sales tax price, despite hte fact that this isnt legally necessary, nor is it some common feature online store have in the USA. Which is then somehow translated to being 'fraud'

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Yeah... That is why I asked him to tell me any other retailer that adds it to the price before checkout. Box stores don't do this either.

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[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by Malcolm Tucker:

If the seller advertises the product at a fixed price, but then turns around and says its more due to tax they didnt include in their advertisment is fraud.

No, it is not.

No where does it state no sales tax or that it is a fixed price. No retailer does what you stated in the USA. It is common in the EU and some other places out side the US though.

Tax is always added at check out, just like any other store in the US, when applicable.

You are notified of the taxes on check-out. That is the final cost of what you are purchasing.

Originally posted by Malcolm Tucker:

A song was 99 cents in Cali. Moved to Washington, and thats when i noticed the song that was 99 cents was now 1.49.

That would be a 50% increase due to taxs. There is no tax that increased the price by 50%. That is also not how itunes works.

99c is a song with DRM. 1.49 is a song with out DRM on itunes.