Why is there a setting for allowing furry porn games, but not for uncensoring words?

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Seriously, how is this https://store.steampowered.com/app/958720/Second_Chance/ allowed if saying ♥♥♥♥ isnt? Why even have the censoring in the first place, this isnt Roblox. A simple setting would be all it would take. Games sold here have explicit content anyway, you arent protecting the kiddos by having words replaced with hearts. The inconsistancy is what actualy gets under my skin here, either censor everything or censor nothing.

[wuddih]

apples and bananas ... that are 2 different things.

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are they? profane content is profane. hearing swears in games and reading them in fourms is essentialy the same. I dont actualy care about the furry porn, its only an example.

[Zefar]

Because we want people to actually post a bit more civilized. If people could turn off the filters they'd take that as they're allowed to post whatever they want.

It would reduce the quality of conversation even more on these discussions. Which isn't needed.

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If the profanity bothers someone, they can leave the filter on. If someone is spamming racial slurs or something, they get banned. Im not advocating complete anarchy here, I would just like the option.

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How so?

[Tito Shivan]

Adult games are all behind an age gate.
Forums and the community is open to be seen by anyone. Even non-Steam users.

Besides, I've had no issues in expressing myself in multiples languages without having to face the Steam wordfilter or swearing for the last three decades. I left behind my need to swear like a drunken sailor after puberty.

You're not meant to swear in some places, Valve decided the community is one of them.
And is perfectly possible to discuss adult games without having to disable the wordfilter. English is a rich enough language to do so.

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Firstly, do you honestly think that age gates stop anyone from doing or seeing anything? And, if you do, why cant the word filter be age gated? Secondly, the word filter should be enabled by default, so anyone can still browse the Steam fourms wihout profanity if they choose. However, they should also have the choice to view swear words if they want. English is a rich language, but why exclude certain words from discourse? Swear words are tools, and like any tools, they can both be used and abused. Take a hammer, for instance. You could use it to build a house, you could use it to bash someone's head in. If we restricted the use of hammers because they can be misused, we take away the good things hammers can build. Swears can be used to belittle or mock, and if this mockery gets out of hand the mocker can be banned. Swears are also good for adding emphasis to sentances and showing extreme emotion, both negative and positive, in ways other words cannot. It's why they exist seperate from other words in our minds. To restrict their usage is to neuter discussion.

[ONe_mOMENT]

Originally posted by lil croc:

Swear words are tools, and like any tools, they can both be used and abused. Take a hammer, for instance. You could use it to build a house, you could use it to bash someone's head in.

Tools are also suited to a situation. You don't bring a sledge hammer to a watch repair course.

As such the steam community forums are a place where profanity isn't needed (or rather not wanted, since it's filtered) . So respect the situation and move on.

If you can't articulate a point without profanity your not using the tools you have properly.

[Gus the Crocodile]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Besides, I've had no issues in expressing myself in multiples languages without having to face the Steam wordfilter or swearing for the last three decades. I left behind my need to swear like a drunken sailor after puberty.

You're not meant to swear in some places, Valve decided the community is one of them.
And is perfectly possible to discuss adult games without having to disable the wordfilter. English is a rich enough language to do so.

Your and my and many other people's ability to communicate without using the filtered words is entirely irrelevant. That's talking about our writing, but the suggestion to allow the filter to be optionally disabled isn't about writing, it's about reading.

Much the same goes for the statement that you're not meant to swear here. The filter being optional does not imply the rules need changing. Many (indeed most) things that are against the rules are not filtered out. That's okay, that's normal. We get by just fine. The rules can stay as they are.

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Originally posted by ONe_mOMENT:

Originally posted by lil croc:

Swear words are tools, and like any tools, they can both be used and abused. Take a hammer, for instance. You could use it to build a house, you could use it to bash someone's head in.

Tools are also suited to a situation. You don't bring a sledge hammer to a watch repair course.

As such the steam community forums are a place where profanity isn't needed (or rather not wanted, since it's filtered) . So respect the situation and move on.

If you can't articulate a point without profanity your not using the tools you have properly.

Exactly. Swear words are not meant to argue a point with logic and reason, we have normal words for that. Swears are meant to express emotion, as i said, and normal words cannot match their power. You wouldn't bring a sledgehammer to repair something, but if used carefully it would work to pound in nails. Likewise, you wouldent use a rock to pound in nails, but it would work with some finesse. You could engineer normal words to express emotion, but a swear word would work better. Likewise, you wouldn't swear in an academic paper, as that is not the place to express intense emotion. I'm not swearing while typing this because I am trying to prove a point using logic. In real life, I swear all the time, to express intense emotion.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

The age gate exists for two purposes:
1. butt-covering for legal reasons.
2. so that people who don't like seeing certain types of games can have a more pleasant store browsing experience.

The wordfilter exists for two entirely different purposes:
1. to encourage people to be civil, by messing with people's usage of foul language because foul language is often used to express strong opinions in ways that don't encourage discussion but instead incite arguments.
2. to filter out the names of certain disreputable websites.

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Originally posted by lil croc:

In real life, I swear all the time, to express intense emotion.

Which is an issue on your side for not being able to self filter your own words. I swear more than any pirate ever would around the right people, but beyond that I can easily go without having to use profanity to "express emotion". People fail to remember this is a public forum, if in real life you are in a public place, are having a rather audible conversion with someone and are just spitting out profane after profane, you are simply being rude and is unwanted. Those same inconsiderate people are the ones who seem to have a problem with word filters on a forum and that is because they can't resist the urge to use profanity, while others can.

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Originally posted by Quint the Water Fairy:

The age gate exists for two purposes:
The wordfilter exists for two entirely different purposes:
1. to encourage people to be civil, by messing with people's usage of foul language because foul language is often used to express strong opinions in ways that don't encourage discussion but instead incite arguments.
2. to filter out the names of certain disreputable websites.

Civility is cultivated socialy. In real life, there is no word filter, and yet you dont hear people swearing loudly in the street non-stop. And, if someone is, they get thrown out or arrested. Same thing on the fourms. If you are having a civil discussion and someone comes in saying "UR FAGAT" or something, just report him. Or just leave the filter on. Or both. The choice to disable the profanity filter would not create a climate of hostility, it would be a minor change at best. Filtering of spam and pornography sites would still be perminantly enabled, as that's actualy a good idea.

Originally posted by The Living Tribunal:

Originally posted by lil croc:

In real life, I swear all the time, to express intense emotion.

People fail to remember this is a public forum, if in real life you are in a public place, are having a rather audible conversion with someone and are just spitting out profane after profane, you are simply being rude and is unwanted. Those same inconsiderate people are the ones who seem to have a problem with word filters on a forum and that is because they can't resist the urge to use profanity, while others can.

This goes with what I was saying before. If your profanity is disrupting, you get thrown out, as with getting banned from the fourms for the same reason. As for the other thing, choosing not to use profanity is like being celebate. Its a commendable choice, respectable even, but it isn't for everyone. Saying I swear all the time was hyperbole. I don't actualy run around screaming swears everywhere. I too only swear around friends and family, as do all sane people. Swearing at strangers is reserved for making a point, and is used sparingly by people who understand their power. People who abuse this power get thrown out or banned.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Originally posted by lil croc:

Originally posted by Quint the Water Fairy:

The age gate exists for two purposes:
The wordfilter exists for two entirely different purposes:
1. to encourage people to be civil, by messing with people's usage of foul language because foul language is often used to express strong opinions in ways that don't encourage discussion but instead incite arguments.
2. to filter out the names of certain disreputable websites.

Civility is cultivated socialy. In real life, there is no word filter, and yet you dont hear people swearing loudly in the street non-stop. And, if someone is, they get thrown out or arrested. Same thing on the fourms. If you are having a civil discussion and someone comes in saying "UR FAGAT" or something, just report him. Or just leave the filter on. Or both. The choice to disable the profanity filter would not create a climate of hostility, it would be a minor change at best. Filtering of spam and pornography sites would still be perminantly enabled, as that's actualy a good idea.

Users would have to report the person saying "UR FAGAT" etc. and then mods would have to go and act on the report.

The filter is just basically an automated glaring-angrily-at-you-if-you-swear.

FYI you can still easily read the original text by quoting the post that's got stuff filtered out. It's not meant to be foolproof. It's just meant to be a noticeable nudge.

[Gus the Crocodile]

Originally posted by Quint the Water Fairy:

The filter is just basically an automated glaring-angrily-at-you-if-you-swear.

Great, but the problem is it also glares angrily at everyone else too. Why do I get glared at about someone else breaking the rules?