Please STOP breaking my heavily modified single player games with forced updates. Thank you.

[Scion Drakhar]

The title pretty much says it all. If I log on to steam to check the store or look at an item on my wishlist Steam tries to update all of my games including HEAVILY MODIFIED SINGLE PLAYER games, which often breaks them and renders saved games representing hundreds of hours of play unusable.

Please do NOT tell me to use the update settings offered by steam. That works only until you launch the game.

I'm asking STEAM to please offer a viable method to protect our games from forced updates. I am BEGGING for this option. Again. And Again. And Again. Forced updates for multiplayer games is perfectly understandable. But heavily modified single player games are very delicate. Force-updating the game or the mods offered on Steam Workshop can and routinely does break saved games. Thus prompting hate filled screaming from your customers.

Thank you for your time and attention (if you bothered reading at all).

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Zannah の投稿を引用：

cSg|mc-Hotsauce の投稿を引用：

Because they can't force a user to update their game just to send a support ticket.



I need the source of that info you just stated about only answering 1/2 the tickets sent.



Everything for their game ON Steam is up to the game developer themselves. Always has, always will be. Unless you want them all to use their own platform and dump Steam altogether.

how much is valve paying you?

You going to deflect or discuss?

[Zannah]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce の投稿を引用：

Zannah の投稿を引用：

how much is valve paying you?

You going to deflect or discuss?

:qr:

there's nothing to discuss if you're just going to repeat yourself 28 and a half times and bring nothing new or of substance to the conversation.

[Pendy]

Yeesh, this topic is old. I can't believe I'm still subscribed to it. Anyway, if someone is still having a problem with this, I found a solution a long time ago. Just go into your steamapps folder, find the game you don't want updated, then change its name. Then click on the properties of the game in the steam window and press "verify integrity". It'll create a second file that'll get all the updates, but you'll still be able to play your original game without issue. I know this works with Terraria at least, so try it on any game you need. The only hitch is that the non-updated game has to be accessed directly through the exe, and not steam's window.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Zannah の投稿を引用：

cSg|mc-Hotsauce の投稿を引用：

You going to deflect or discuss?

there's nothing to discuss if you're just going to repeat yourself 28 and a half times and bring nothing new or of substance to the conversation.

So, not going to post the source?

[Zannah]

-FF- Spongepen Squarepants の投稿を引用：

Yeesh, this topic is old. I can't believe I'm still subscribed to it. Anyway, if someone is still having a problem with this, I found a solution a long time ago. Just go into your steamapps folder, find the game you don't want updated, then change its name. Then click on the properties of the game in the steam window and press "verify integrity". It'll create a second file that'll get all the updates, but you'll still be able to play your original game without issue. I know this works with Terraria at least, so try it on any game you need.

yea i saw that in the earlier comments. that's a good solution if you have the disk space. i ended up here because of a friend asking me a question about it and it'll do the trick for him so thank you for that. i already told him haha that was actually pretty clever of you. props.

[Zefar]

Zannah の投稿を引用：

OP im with you on this one. i understand why they do it with multiplayer games. but for single player ones theres absolutely NO reason why they shouldn't implement an opt out option. if they were getting spammed with support tickets make people update the game before submitting a ticket for it. or just ignore it until they update like they do with half the support tickets they get already. it's easy as hell to pawn it off on the devs but thats a cop out answer. we all know there are dev companies out there that dont give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about the end user and would sooner murder their first born child than offer access to a beta branch of old versions. (im looking at you bathesda. we all know you're never going to give beta branch options for skyrim se because you're too busy pushing a bunch of creation club ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to try to milk every last cent you can out of skyrim before releasing es6.) and this kind of ♥♥♥♥ doesn't just affect modders it affects people with internet data caps as well. if you seriously are going to sit there arguing against the implementation of such an option quoting steam EULAs and support tickets as an excuse for them not to do this you need a kind of help no therapist can give. absolutely mental. my mind is legit blown that some people think like that.

If you give the option for not being able to auto update all the mod makers will have their mods on different versions of the game.

Because why bother updating the mod all that often when it works on one version. Minecraft is exactly like this. So many mods spread out over several different Minecraft versions that modding is a pain.

Then we have people who will not update the game and whine that the game is buggy because they haven't gotten any of the patches for it. They will contact Support and clog down the support channels and only to be told "Update your game" but then these people might have mods and all of sudden those breaks as well. Queue an even more angry fan.

Rather than just have the game break mods for those who like to mod it.

Also continue with the insulting of people who like Auto updating will just lead to a locked thread and warning/ban.

[Zannah]

Zefar の投稿を引用：

Zannah の投稿を引用：

OP im with you on this one. i understand why they do it with multiplayer games. but for single player ones theres absolutely NO reason why they shouldn't implement an opt out option. if they were getting spammed with support tickets make people update the game before submitting a ticket for it. or just ignore it until they update like they do with half the support tickets they get already. it's easy as hell to pawn it off on the devs but thats a cop out answer. we all know there are dev companies out there that dont give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about the end user and would sooner murder their first born child than offer access to a beta branch of old versions. (im looking at you bathesda. we all know you're never going to give beta branch options for skyrim se because you're too busy pushing a bunch of creation club ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to try to milk every last cent you can out of skyrim before releasing es6.) and this kind of ♥♥♥♥ doesn't just affect modders it affects people with internet data caps as well. if you seriously are going to sit there arguing against the implementation of such an option quoting steam EULAs and support tickets as an excuse for them not to do this you need a kind of help no therapist can give. absolutely mental. my mind is legit blown that some people think like that.

If you give the option for not being able to auto update all the mod makers will have their mods on different versions of the game.

Because why bother updating the mod all that often when it works on one version. Minecraft is exactly like this. So many mods spread out over several different Minecraft versions that modding is a pain.

Then we have people who will not update the game and whine that the game is buggy because they haven't gotten any of the patches for it. They will contact Support and clog down the support channels and only to be told "Update your game" but then these people might have mods and all of sudden those breaks as well. Queue an even more angry fan.

Rather than just have the game break mods for those who like to mod it.

Also continue with the insulting of people who like Auto updating will just lead to a locked thread and warning/ban.

I get where you're coming from. it's a valid point. but i still think the option should be there. if it's a game in active development then people should go into it with the understanding that content is continuously being added and sometimes ♥♥♥♥ happens. this kinda stuff happened to me with subnautica and some other games and im completely ok with it because i know its relatively new and is being actively developed. if you opt to halt updates thats on your own head be it. do it at your own risk. if support tickets are that big of an issue They should implement a system where you have to be up to date before opening a support ticket for that game.or auto sort all support tickets originating from people who have not updated their games to a trash bin. My stance is mainly in regards to the games that have been out and deemed stable for years. i.e. skyrim. that went years without an update. everyone gets comfy. a ton of mods get developed and people spend loads of time and energy installing them and getting them to function properly. then even more time actually playing. dont ever think about it because no one in a million years expects any more updates. then one day BOOM. old game gets necroed harder than this thread did when i arrived. and good bye hundreds of hours. and for what? some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ patch no one cares about or asked for? i completely get it raises complications. but its nothing that couldn't be worked around if the effort was put in. and like someone else said. this is a place for suggestions on ways to improve. and lastly noted. for the record i wasnt trashing people who like auto updates. people can like what they like. my whole point here was freedom of choice. i was trashing the one actively advocating lack of freedom of choice without presenting a legitimate argument as to why it shouldnt be an option instead repeating himself over and over without any supporting arguments. but like i said. noted. it wont happen again.

[Ilja]

Zannah の投稿を引用：

(im looking at you bathesda. we all know you're never going to give beta branch options for skyrim se because you're too busy pushing a bunch of creation club ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to try to milk every last cent you can out of skyrim before releasing es6.)

Bethesda's updates are a simple matter. They only "break" xSE and they do not even actually do that. It is xSE itself that has been designed not to run with game runtime mismatch, to protect players from corrupted save files caused by changed memory addresses.

Of course mods having hard check to xSE version will also need to be updated, before they run again.

The case is that players can use Steam settings and xSE to delay the update, until relevant xSE and mods have caught up with the runtime. I haven't had to interrupt my Fallout 4 game due to updates at all.

All this information can be found from relevant game HUBs. Community has bunch of pinned topics and ongoing community threads to help other players out in this matter.

What comes to updates as such: they are annoying for me as well, but not harmful. New version of xSE is out for both Skyrim SE and Fallout 4 as I write this. Mods will catch up soon enough. Most people that have been playing the game during CC updates are doing just that: playing the game, with relevant xSE and mods, allowing the update once mods have caught up and they are ready to install them. And they are doing it all online.

[Brian9824]

Zannah の投稿を引用：

(im looking at you bathesda. we all know you're never going to give beta branch options for skyrim se because you're too busy pushing a bunch of creation club ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to try to milk every last cent you can out of skyrim before releasing es6.) and this kind of ♥♥♥♥ doesn't just affect modders it affects people with internet data caps as well. if you seriously are going to sit there arguing against the implementation of such an option quoting steam EULAs and support tickets as an excuse for them not to do this you need a kind of help no therapist can give. absolutely mental. my mind is legit blown that some people think like that.

Seriously THAT's why your mad? It's incredibly easy to avoid the issue. All you do is launch the game via the script extender and not from Steam. Fallout 4, Skyrim, etc will then never update as its not being launched from steam and it will never break your mods.

There is even a stickied thread with details on how to avoid the updates
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/2828702372997628701/

[Ilja]

brian9824 の投稿を引用：

Seriously THAT's why your mad? It's incredibly easy to avoid the issue. All you do is launch the game via the script extender and not from Steam. Fallout 4, Skyrim, etc will then never update as its not being launched from steam and it will never break your mods.

There is even a stickied thread with details on how to avoid the updates
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/2828702372997628701/

And another one in FO4 forum. With Big Bold Letters.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/364039785169337238/

[Brian9824]

Ilja の投稿を引用：

brian9824 の投稿を引用：

Seriously THAT's why your mad? It's incredibly easy to avoid the issue. All you do is launch the game via the script extender and not from Steam. Fallout 4, Skyrim, etc will then never update as its not being launched from steam and it will never break your mods.

There is even a stickied thread with details on how to avoid the updates
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/2828702372997628701/

And another one in FO4 forum. With Big Bold Letters.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/364039785169337238/

Yep. I've used those for years with Bethesda games. Never updates unless you want them to and mods don't break.

[Ilja]

Yep. I am using CDante's backup system as well, just in case Steam manages to update the game during it's own processes. It have never happened to me though.

We have a bunch of pinned topics, community threads in Skyrim, Skyrim SE and Fallout 4 discussions, and Chef warned about pending updates beforehand in Skyrim SE and Fallout 4 discussions.

I can understand newcomers getting confused, though pinned topics are there for a reason.

If someone who has already gone this through once gets their gaming hampered by updates, then they really haven't paid attention, or are just stubborn enough not to flip the option in Steam client.

[Crazy Tiger]

Ilja の投稿を引用：

I can understand newcomers getting confused, though pinned topics are there for a reason.

That boils down to a general problem these days. People don't take the time to read important stuff.

[Snapjak]

Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用：

Ilja の投稿を引用：

I can understand newcomers getting confused, though pinned topics are there for a reason.

That boils down to a general problem these days. People don't take the time to read important stuff.

Or search.

[wuddih]

Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用：

Ilja の投稿を引用：

I can understand newcomers getting confused, though pinned topics are there for a reason.

That boils down to a general problem these days. People don't take the time to read important stuff.

people are frikking lazy these days. i wonder when people can start ordering their happy meal blended, so that they dont have to chew any of it.