Let us have the old library design back

[Falleax]

At least as an option. If it aint broke, don't fix it.

[CyborgJellyFish]

Автор сообщения: Quint the Alligator Snapper

Instead, I've been hammering again and again, we need:
* List View, either in its original form or improved, and specifically in a form that allows us to avoid having to load any images (game icons or banners or cover art), aside from applicable images for hypothetical columns involving achievements, friends playing, trading cards, or badges, and if those images are present they must be implemented in a way that scrolling always takes priority over loading images. Anyway, the point is that this is vertical information density.
* Keyboard navigability, specifically AT LEAST the ability to launch games with keyboard alone, and preferably integration with the context menu key.
* A library that does not lag when scrolling. This is why I suggest options to disallow images from loading. The current tile view is particularly silly without images though because it doesn't even show game names -- making it like a bad version of Windows's native File Explorer that is only useful for browsing photos.
* A library that doesn't take as long to load.
* Official way to turn off the What's New banner. We don't need this advertising. Furthermore, it takes up so much space that, if you have the main Steam library view open on the smallest resolution it allows (1010x600), the first row of whatever shelf is under What's New gets its art cut off.

I will also accept an alternate "lite edition" or "barebones edition" of Steam, which allows me to launch games entirely via command line and entirely omits the library UI, the friends chat UI, etc., or opens up a much quicker-loading Steam library that circumvents the need for all this browser-rendered nonsense.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

[Zalfir]

Автор сообщения: مغرية لهب

Seems like this thread is just about to fizzle out. and yet the new UI remains. then again that was predicted by a few posters.

It will come back strong again if they stop us from using the legacy library.
Already barred us from using VR.

[MaqiMu]

Just posted this to a Steam Support response to my UI issues from someone named Hansel:

"HI Hansel,

Thank you for your reply.

As usual, your breadcrumbs have disappeared, so we're stuck with this gingerbread and candy for children. I'm not interested in it. You have grown fat, while disguising that fact. I am starving and overworked. I never wanted to be here. I blame you!!!

Good luck for the future. Hope you enjoy the oven :)

Love,
Gretel

(I hope you understand the reference)"

It's childish, I know, but they really don't give a fark.

[YouMakeMeASandwich!]

New library has damn ads at the top of home page! Bring old one back!
Will not spen a penny here until it is removed.

[ecstubblebine]

There are currently three title on sale on my Wish List; I'll pass. Out of loyalty, I refused to buy Metro Exodus until it got to Steam, ditto with Outer Worlds. I see my 'loyalty' has been mightily rewarded /s. I REFUSE to buy another game from Steam. Hello Epic Games, goodbye Steam. You've done this to yourselves. Do they even listen to our complaints? Do they even care?
If just five percent boycotted buying games from Steam they would have to listen. At least give us the OPTION to revert to the older UI. But no.

[Supafly]

Автор сообщения: ecstubblebine

There are currently three title on sale on my Wish List; I'll pass. Out of loyalty

Currently more than a dozen for me. Several low enough I could buy with fund already in my Steam Wallet but I can't decide to buy any off them. Even if I I were to buy using the wallet it's not like new money for Valve. They've already had it...........Got a few days to consider my options before it ends.

[maestro]

Автор сообщения: ecstubblebine

There are currently three title on sale on my Wish List; I'll pass. Out of loyalty, I refused to buy Metro Exodus until it got to Steam, ditto with Outer Worlds. I see my 'loyalty' has been mightily rewarded /s. I REFUSE to buy another game from Steam. Hello Epic Games, goodbye Steam. You've done this to yourselves. Do they even listen to our complaints? Do they even care?
If just five percent boycotted buying games from Steam they would have to listen. At least give us the OPTION to revert to the older UI. But no.

lol.

"hello epic, goodbye steam"

Have fun dealing with stuff like no shopping cart, and getting your account flagged for fraudulent/suspicious activity for buying more than 2-3 games at a time and many other missing features.

Good luck with that.

If you're thinking Epic cares about you any more than Steam does, you've got another thing coming.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Автор сообщения: YouMakeMeASanwich!

New library has damn ads at the top of home page! Bring old one back!
Will not spen a penny here until it is removed.

You can remove it yourself, but I think you're right to not spend any money until they provide a way that isn't reverted with every update and isn't as arcane as having to edit a CSS file to have the exact same length.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Автор сообщения: ecstubblebine

There are currently three title on sale on my Wish List; I'll pass. Out of loyalty, I refused to buy Metro Exodus until it got to Steam, ditto with Outer Worlds. I see my 'loyalty' has been mightily rewarded /s. I REFUSE to buy another game from Steam. Hello Epic Games, goodbye Steam. You've done this to yourselves. Do they even listen to our complaints? Do they even care?
If just five percent boycotted buying games from Steam they would have to listen. At least give us the OPTION to revert to the older UI. But no.

Go buy DRM-free instead. Epic could screw you over. Your own local copies of game downloaders can't.

[Florida Man]

I keep seeing these comments about the 'improvements' to the UI and how 'at least they are improving it.' Well, the point of Steam, to me, is to be a marketplace to buy games and a library to find them all in one place. The emphasis should be on the games.

Instead, the emphasis with the recent update is on allowing developers to communicate more, Steam to advertise more, etc. It's like how when you try to go to the grocery store to pick up a bag of Doritos and there's a bunch of kids trying to sell you cookies, a guy with a red kettle asking for change (not hating just comparing) and someone right inside who wants to give you a free food sample of some product they are selling. It's overload.

But it's really worse than that. Because when you go to the store, you expect to have them and others try to sell you stuff. The Store part of steam should be whatever Steam says it is. But the Library should be my living room. I should have the option to not answer the door if a saleseman comes by. And I definitely shouldn't have one cutting a hole in my wall to come inside and sell me his stuff.

[Zukabazuka]

Автор сообщения: White Rabbit

I keep seeing these comments about the 'improvements' to the UI and how 'at least they are improving it.' Well, the point of Steam, to me, is to be a marketplace to buy games and a library to find them all in one place. The emphasis should be on the games.

Instead, the emphasis with the recent update is on allowing developers to communicate more, Steam to advertise more, etc. It's like how when you try to go to the grocery store to pick up a bag of Doritos and there's a bunch of kids trying to sell you cookies, a guy with a red kettle asking for change (not hating just comparing) and someone right inside who wants to give you a free food sample of some product they are selling. It's overload.

But it's really worse than that. Because when you go to the store, you expect to have them and others try to sell you stuff. The Store part of steam should be whatever Steam says it is. But the Library should be my living room. I should have the option to not answer the door if a saleseman comes by. And I definitely shouldn't have one cutting a hole in my wall to come inside and sell me his stuff.

Is it really ads when the stuff on the "whats New" only really show about games you own and generally games you have installed? Because that is what I see on my list, I don't get 100 of ads for other games I don't own on that list in fact I haven't even gotten a single other game I don't own on that list.

So its really just content I might actually be interested in, at least now I don't get rock paper shotgun, pcgamer or kotaku showing up in that list. Its always devs word or someone working at that place. Sure once in a while they post their new DLC in that section but since I actually bought the game I might be interested in it. So now I don't have to visit all my 300 games to see whats up with them, I can just check "Whats new".

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Автор сообщения: Zukabazuka

Автор сообщения: White Rabbit

I keep seeing these comments about the 'improvements' to the UI and how 'at least they are improving it.' Well, the point of Steam, to me, is to be a marketplace to buy games and a library to find them all in one place. The emphasis should be on the games.

Instead, the emphasis with the recent update is on allowing developers to communicate more, Steam to advertise more, etc. It's like how when you try to go to the grocery store to pick up a bag of Doritos and there's a bunch of kids trying to sell you cookies, a guy with a red kettle asking for change (not hating just comparing) and someone right inside who wants to give you a free food sample of some product they are selling. It's overload.

But it's really worse than that. Because when you go to the store, you expect to have them and others try to sell you stuff. The Store part of steam should be whatever Steam says it is. But the Library should be my living room. I should have the option to not answer the door if a saleseman comes by. And I definitely shouldn't have one cutting a hole in my wall to come inside and sell me his stuff.

Is it really ads when the stuff on the "whats New" only really show about games you own and generally games you have installed? Because that is what I see on my list, I don't get 100 of ads for other games I don't own on that list in fact I haven't even gotten a single other game I don't own on that list.

So its really just content I might actually be interested in, at least now I don't get rock paper shotgun, pcgamer or kotaku showing up in that list. Its always devs word or someone working at that place. Sure once in a while they post their new DLC in that section but since I actually bought the game I might be interested in it. So now I don't have to visit all my 300 games to see whats up with them, I can just check "Whats new".

I've gotten "What's New" for games I don't have installed, games I have previously played then given negative reviews of, and games I have never even played or downloaded at all.

It's not filtered the way you're talking about.

[maestro]

Weird, I've not seen that kind of stuff come up in my What's New. It's just games I've played that have been recently updated.

Maybe that's a bug, and not intended?

*checks to make sure*

Nope, every single item in my What's New are about games I've played before. Well, ONE of them I thought wasn't (A big banner that said "Prison Architect" but yet the actual game was Cities: Skylines which I do own, apparently it's a mod or something for that game) at first, but it turned out to be as well.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Автор сообщения: Quint the Alligator Snapper

I've gotten "What's New" for games I don't have installed, games I have previously played then given negative reviews of, and games I have never even played or downloaded at all.

It's not filtered the way you're talking about.

It is games you own. There are some that came up that I didn't even recall owning, until I checked my library and found them.

Doesn't matter the installed status, if you have ever played it or how you feel about the game (negative review), as long as it is in you library, the "Whats New" may display it.

And yes, I agree there should be a way to turn it on or off.

[Hoddypeak]

Been on Steam for .. 15 years now? I didn't like it when it came out and I like it a lot less now. Had to buy my last game on Epic cause steam doesn't have it... about time for me to hit the road, I guess. Let me know when HL3 is confirmed.