Ankido 26 sep, 2024 @ 15:37
Download speeds really slow now
For some reason, my download speeds are terrible. It's taking 2hrs and 30 minutes to download 57GB update for Once Human. I've checked my speed and it's 876 Mbps download and 360 Mbps upload. This goes for all game updates. Why is my connection to steam servers bad now?
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Ettanin 26 sep, 2024 @ 15:40 
If you have a SSD and a very stable supply of power, disable its writing cache.
Elucidator 26 sep, 2024 @ 15:49 
It should be downloaded in 10 minutes in your case.
Looks like your actual download speed is: 51Mbps

In case you download onto a WD SSD, you can try what Ettanin suggested. (this could make the experience worse though, so you'd need to test.)

You download at 1 / 17th of speed. That is going to be a lot slower than what the WD odd peak issue would reach alone.

I think it is caused by your PC's power saving settings. Things like putting the download task on an E-Core and then powering it down for example: check your Core Parking settings.
Power Management Plan
etc. I'll look up some guides for you.

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Edit:
https://helpdesk.flexradio.com/hc/en-us/articles/202118518-Optimizing-Ethernet-Adapter-Settings-for-Maximum-Performance

https://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php
(at least disable the networkthrottlingindex with this)

https://bitsum.com/parkcontrol/
(Software to control the core parking setting)

Put Power Management Plan on Performce instead of balanced.
Enable Gaming Mode.

There is more you can do:
Disable File Indexing on the SSD
Disable Superfetch
Disable bitlocker (its enabled by default; if you're not worried about your PC getting stolen, you can disable this)

Yeah, if you do this all you should be able to download at max speed.
Senast ändrad av Elucidator; 26 sep, 2024 @ 15:52
Ankido 26 sep, 2024 @ 15:51 
I've not touched my PC at all. I've had no issues downloading for years. I updated my memory today from 32>96. I doubt that's the issue. I haven't touched any settings.
Elucidator 26 sep, 2024 @ 15:59 
Usually when you make changes to your motherboard, some settings in the BIOS may have been reset
If your system was stock overclocked, then it is now running slower due to this. You may need to inspect the BIOS settings, and I recommend to look for Power Saving settings specifically, because usually that ends up causing slowdowns.
Qualme 26 sep, 2024 @ 16:16 
No steam is just crap. It won't download from other computers on the local network. Its just crap. I'll stick to GOG.
Elucidator 26 sep, 2024 @ 16:25 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Qualme:
No steam is just crap. It won't download from other computers on the local network. Its just crap. I'll stick to GOG.
Steam > Settings > Downloads > Transfer of Game Files over the Local network
(By default this is only enabled for "myself", which means you need to be logged in on all devices to do this. You can enable this for "Everyone", making it faster to download games while others are logged in on the same local network.)

The other points are fair lol. Steam apparently doesn't download at max by default for others and Steam could still use improvements on the techniques
(I think that Steam should try to automatically optimize downloading; since things have clearly changed that causes many by default not to download at max speed anymore.

I myself do download close to max speed. (just 3% below the cap lol)
Senast ändrad av Elucidator; 26 sep, 2024 @ 17:26
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 26 sep, 2024 @ 16:30 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Qualme:
No steam is just crap. It won't download from other computers on the local network. Its just crap. I'll stick to GOG.

Steam is definitely not at fault...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3320179351

:nkCool:
Ankido 26 sep, 2024 @ 19:45 
I installed new memory the same kind exactly like the previous ones I had in. Except, the new ones are 32GB each and the other two are 16GB each. I've installed them like this.

A1 16GB, A2 32GB, B1 16GB and B2 32GB. I have an Ethernet card in my computer that works great. Unfortunately, it's not working today after installing the memory. I have to use the motherboards Ethernet port. When I turn my computer on, it takes forever to load to desktop. Once I do, it's a black screen for 2 minutes before the icons load up and taskbar. Could memory be the issue of all this?
Elucidator 26 sep, 2024 @ 21:48 
It could, but--
it sounds more like you system is running on too little power. Your ethernet card stopped working, + it takes a ton longer to boot up?

RAM dimms eat about 3 watts a piece. So basically you added 6 Watts of power consumption. Normally this is neglectable.
RAM is still part of the old, so called 'north bridge', which is the primary section on the motherboard, so preferably all power first goes there. The 'south bridge' is second to that.

Unless you have a CPU with AI in it that needs a training period to adjust to the new circumstances.... okay that was a joke. (hopefully)
uhm.

Can you test if your system runs normally with just A2 and B2 slots having RAM in them?
If it doesn't, and is still showing odd behavior; Can you test if your PC starts normally with just 1 of the two 32GB RAM dimms?
and then the other one?
(You can easily test if this is RAM related like this)
(You can also figure out which slot specifically is affected) -- (make sure you test working slots as well)
Senast ändrad av Elucidator; 26 sep, 2024 @ 21:52
Ankido 26 sep, 2024 @ 22:09 
I put back my 32GB 2x16GB sticks in the same slots they were in and the computer still takes a long time to load desktop. Something along the way happened not sure what. I have plenty of power to run 4 sticks of memory. This pretty means I can't use steam anymore. Now download updates are saying 1d to download and that's only 32GB. Once Human is over 50 that takes nearly 2 days to download.
Elucidator 27 sep, 2024 @ 1:19 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Ankido:
When I turn my computer on, it takes forever to load to desktop. Once I do, it's a black screen for 2 minutes before the icons load up and taskbar. Could memory be the issue of all this?
I was more concerned with this, than the slow download.


Ursprungligen skrivet av Ankido:
This pretty means I can't use steam anymore. Now download updates are saying 1d to download and that's only 32GB. Once Human is over 50 that takes nearly 2 days to download.

You might still gain some speed when you do the things I was referring to in my earlier post:
https://helpdesk.flexradio.com/hc/en-us/articles/202118518-Optimizing-Ethernet-Adapter-Settings-for-Maximum-Performance
https://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php
etc.

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Anyway I thought the slow download and the black screen / slow boot issue might be related. If the boot becomes fast, then its possible the download also becomes fast.

But, considering you said you cannot use Steam, does that mean downloading runs at normal speed on other platforms?

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Just saying but DDR5 has known problems when using more than 2 DIMMs.
Quad channel doesn't work. Quad kits become 2 dual kits essentially, yet often, putting 4 Dimms in a DDR5 motherboard makes the system not boot at all, at least on Stock Bios. Make sure you update the bios firmware, because DDR5 is just very buggy and still new.

I expect the issues to be fixed at some point, but yeah.
Senast ändrad av Elucidator; 27 sep, 2024 @ 1:30
Ankido 27 sep, 2024 @ 9:31 
I saw a video on youtube so I download this TCP Optimizer. I used the settings he said to use and my downloads in general went from 980Mbps to 120Mbps. I have no problems with speed. My download speed right now is 894.89Mbps and my upload is 208.67Mbps. Upload has down by 50%. I think the problem is steam servers and my computer. I download the once human update on my laptop with no problems.

Also, this is an ancient problem. Many people have had this issue including myself way back in the days. I'm not sure what the solution is or how it was fixed. The Internet is silent about it.
Senast ändrad av Ankido; 27 sep, 2024 @ 9:32
Elucidator 27 sep, 2024 @ 9:54 
Well, don't use settings other people use.
https://www.speedguide.net/articles/gaming-tweaks-5812
https://www.speedguide.net/articles/windows-10-manual-tcpip-registry-tweaks-7507

Rather than copy pasting, I recommend looking up what each setting does (see those tweak guides for example), and set things according to your preferences. It's not all going to work for your system.
This is why these questions get largely ignored, because its complicated to optimize your specific system in general, due to its uniqueness. No PC is the same. You are going to get adverse effects from just doing what other people do.

And yes, I know many people have had this issue.
Averagely, it seems like more than 1 thread about the download speed is made per day. It never ends. Some people's issues get resolved, others not.
Cinemax 27 sep, 2024 @ 10:02 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Ankido:
I saw a video on youtube so I download this TCP Optimizer. I used the settings he said to use and my downloads in general went from 980Mbps to 120Mbps. I have no problems with speed. My download speed right now is 894.89Mbps and my upload is 208.67Mbps. Upload has down by 50%. I think the problem is steam servers and my computer. I download the once human update on my laptop with no problems.

Also, this is an ancient problem. Many people have had this issue including myself way back in the days. I'm not sure what the solution is or how it was fixed. The Internet is silent about it.
I mean, SSDs have a finite number of writes before they go to crap. Is your throughput good transferring between the desktop and laptop (with the local sharing enabled)? Or just SMB file transfer for that matter?

You have a few points of failure - NIC, SSD, RAM, CPU. If the issue started when you added additional RAM well...
I would try your new sticks 2x/32GB in SCHANNEL configuration and lose the 16GB sticks. Even if they are all the exact same speed. If the machine say fails to boot or runs like triple ass you probably got a bad DIMM out of the factory (as roughly 4% of all are). :dos2dagger:
crunchyfrog 27 sep, 2024 @ 10:26 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Ankido:
I've not touched my PC at all. I've had no issues downloading for years. I updated my memory today from 32>96. I doubt that's the issue. I haven't touched any settings.


I'd always recommend any changes that happen are your first port of call. NEVER dismiss them, no matter how much you think they don't apply.

And as Steam downloads DO indeed use I/O, RAM, CPU, hard drive and more, it's entirely possible that your memory installation is causing an issue.

Open both the downloads page on Steam, as well as Task Manager and watch how things go as you're downloading. If you see ANY of your system resources being hit hard (such as your memory) then that's your bottleneck.
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