Unable to search by game in points shop

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munchiesnOOb

Oct 16, 2020 @ 8:18pm

Unable to search by game in points shop

Trying to find some backgrounds to spend my horde of points on for my profile. There's a little thing you can open to search for backgrounds by game, with a list of recently played games you can select to search for just those. There's also a search bar if you wanna find backgrounds for other games. However, the search bar is completely broken.

No matter what I type, it says there are no results. For example, one of the games it listed that I could search for was Rainbow Six Siege. Clicking that brought up the siege backgrounds. However, when I type "Tom Clancy's" or "Rainbow Six," it says nothing exists.

How do I actually search for stuff from specific games?

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munchiesnOOb

Oct 16, 2020 @ 8:21pm

Update: So I CAN kind of search for games. For whatever god forsaken reason, if I leave my search query at just 3 letters, it MIGHT show me a game that has those three letters somewhere in the title. Might. Does not work for ArmA 3, for example, but if I type "Sea" it gives me an option for Ace of Seafood, BUT, does NOT give me a search result for Sea of Thieves. Searching "Tom" does not bring up ANYTHING.

If anyone has any connections with valve, can you ask whoever coded this what they were smoking? Because that is some GOOOOOOOD ♥♥♥♥.

cSg|mc-Hotsauce

Oct 16, 2020 @ 8:47pm

Do you own the games you are searching for?

аdvicebanana

Oct 16, 2020 @ 9:03pm

Here's how to find what items for a specific game:

1. open the game in your library
2. go to the game's community hub
3. make a note of the game's app ID, e. g. the hub for Hades is https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360 so the app ID is 1145360
4. visit https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/APPID e. g. https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1145360 for Hades items

Congrats, you are now at the points shop for the game you were looking for.

crunchyfrog

Oct 16, 2020 @ 10:40pm

Yup, can agree this is wonky. Thank you advicebanana for that good tip there.

Was looking for something yesterday, and discovered the search was crap.

munchiesnOOb

Oct 17, 2020 @ 1:17pm

Originally posted by аdvicebanana:
Here's how to find what items for a specific game:

1. open the game in your library
2. go to the game's community hub
3. make a note of the game's app ID, e. g. the hub for Hades is https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360 so the app ID is 1145360
4. visit https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/APPID e. g. https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1145360 for Hades items

Congrats, you are now at the points shop for the game you were looking for.

This is the most convoluted ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ just to search for a game. Steam's gotta get this ♥♥♥♥ together, the regular steam store works fine, no reason they can't get this working.

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Do you own the games you are searching for?

:qr:

No actually, just yesterday I decided to buy a background for a 40k game of a space marine, but according to GabeN you're not allowed to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ do that. So I guess ♥♥♥♥ me for liking Warhammer because I don't own that game, right? Just not allowed to have that as a background. Maybe I like a Half Life Alyx emoticon but only own HL2? Well ♥♥♥♥ me right, guess that's not allowed.

What a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ system.

Crazy Tiger

Oct 17, 2020 @ 1:20pm

Originally posted by Corn Pop:
Just not allowed to have that as a background.

Points shop is a loyalty rewards system, so it's only for games you own.

You can get the background in the Community Market.

munchiesnOOb

Oct 17, 2020 @ 1:21pm

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Originally posted by Corn Pop:
Just not allowed to have that as a background.
Points shop is a loyalty rewards system, so it's only for games you own.

You can get the background in the Community Market.

Is this explained anywhere or was I supposed to use my psychic abilities to figure this out if it weren't for you helping me out with this? And can I still use my steam points?

Crazy Tiger

Oct 17, 2020 @ 2:00pm

Originally posted by Corn Pop:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Points shop is a loyalty rewards system, so it's only for games you own.

You can get the background in the Community Market.
Is this explained anywhere or was I supposed to use my psychic abilities to figure this out if it weren't for you helping me out with this? And can I still use my steam points?

Well, when you click on "Items from Games" in the Points store, you see listed at the top "Items from games you own".

You can use your points to purchase items in the points store at any time.

Regarding the community market, the direct link: https://steamcommunity.com/market/. It's also found by hovering over the "community" word, in the drop down "Market" is listed.
More information in the Support pages: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6088-UDXM-7214&l=english

crunchyfrog

Oct 17, 2020 @ 4:40pm

Originally posted by Corn Pop:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
Points shop is a loyalty rewards system, so it's only for games you own.

You can get the background in the Community Market.
Is this explained anywhere or was I supposed to use my psychic abilities to figure this out if it weren't for you helping me out with this? And can I still use my steam points?

Take this advice in the spirit it is intended - not as a go at you, but a sincere word of advice for your enjoyment in future.

We cool? Good.

Right, stop trying to find excuses to get angry at Valve. You're WRONGLY assuming that everything must be tailored or ready in YOUR lap. Things just do not work like that in the real world.

If it's an unfamiliar system - and it is, as this exists nowhere else - then you should be thinking "hmm, I don't get this, it's new, I should read up HOW it works". Not "I can't see it readily mentioned upfront and in my face therefore bad".

Please I mean this as a positive. I'm old and disabled, and am long enough down that road to know that time is precious and fleeting. Games are FUN. When you stop enjoying and get yourself heated up over something you can just take a step back at and Google, then that's very much something you should address.

munchiesnOOb

Oct 17, 2020 @ 6:04pm

"You're WRONGLY assuming that everything must be tailored or ready in YOUR lap."

You responded to the wrong person because I don't think that. what I think is the system shouldn't be needlessly complex and user unfriendly. The only logical reason I can't buy ♥♥♥♥ for games I don't own is so Valve can skim a few pennis off of a marketplace transaction, which as a customer who's been using this platform for OVER 8 YEARS and spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars, is exceptionally insulting. When you consider that all of this is over literally a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ picture that sits behind your profile, something many sites let you just upload whatever you like for free (like facebook or tumblr) that only makes them look stingier.

"hmm, I don't get this, it's new, I should read up HOW it works".

Actually my response is "hmm, I'm a functioning human being with a working mind. Valve tends to employ people with similarly working minds, so perhaps the systems they design and implement will make sense and not be needlessly convoluted." But I guess I was wrong! But, no, you're right, I should have stopped before trying to buy anything and looked for a 47 page walkthrough of how to use a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ points shop on steam. The idea of a shop with items and points is pretty straight forward, adding in weird qualifiers and second-hand markets that you need to purchase some items, ESPECIALLY when such items are so insignificant, is frankly a pain in the ass.

I would love to go back to just enjoying the game, except valve seems like they'd love to throw some caltrops in my path for no apparent reason. I wanna do something as simple and innocent as putting a space marine as my background, and I get a pay wall. As someone who's spent just shy of 6 thousand hours on this program, I just thought maybe Valve would throw me a peanut or two.

Last edited by munchiesnOOb; Oct 17, 2020 @ 6:06pm

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rawWwRrr

Oct 17, 2020 @ 6:49pm

Originally posted by Corn Pop:
The only logical reason I can't buy ♥♥♥♥ for games I don't own is so Valve can skim a few pennis off of a marketplace transaction,

No... you're free to purchase the game for which the content was released for thereby allowing you to obtain that content through the points shop. Put two and two together and you'll realize it's meant to prevent Steam's other customers, the developers and publishers, from having their work given away for free.

Originally posted by Corn Pop:
which as a customer who's been using this platform for OVER 8 YEARS and spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars, is exceptionally insulting.

I have been on the platform for OVER 16 YEARS and have spent thousands and thousands of dollars and find people like you throwing those stats around as if they put them in higher position than everyone else is extremely insulting. You are no better than the new user who just opened their account to play CSGO.

Originally posted by Corn Pop:
I would love to go back to just enjoying the game, except valve seems like they'd love to throw some caltrops in my path for no apparent reason. I wanna do something as simple and innocent as putting a space marine as my background, and I get a pay wall. As someone who's spent just shy of 6 thousand hours on this program, I just thought maybe Valve would throw me a peanut or two.

Again, you're with the mindset that you are somewhat more superior than the next Steam user and deserve perks. How does your inability to place a space marine as your profile background prevent you from enjoying a game?

Originally posted by Corn Pop:
"You're WRONGLY assuming that everything must be tailored or ready in YOUR lap."

You responded to the wrong person

Seems they were more accurate than you want to admit.

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crunchyfrog

Oct 17, 2020 @ 6:57pm

Originally posted by Corn Pop:
"You're WRONGLY assuming that everything must be tailored or ready in YOUR lap."

You responded to the wrong person because I don't think that. what I think is the system shouldn't be needlessly complex and user unfriendly. The only logical reason I can't buy ♥♥♥♥ for games I don't own is so Valve can skim a few pennis off of a marketplace transaction, which as a customer who's been using this platform for OVER 8 YEARS and spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars, is exceptionally insulting. When you consider that all of this is over literally a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ picture that sits behind your profile, something many sites let you just upload whatever you like for free (like facebook or tumblr) that only makes them look stingier.

"hmm, I don't get this, it's new, I should read up HOW it works".

Actually my response is "hmm, I'm a functioning human being with a working mind. Valve tends to employ people with similarly working minds, so perhaps the systems they design and implement will make sense and not be needlessly convoluted." But I guess I was wrong! But, no, you're right, I should have stopped before trying to buy anything and looked for a 47 page walkthrough of how to use a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ points shop on steam. The idea of a shop with items and points is pretty straight forward, adding in weird qualifiers and second-hand markets that you need to purchase some items, ESPECIALLY when such items are so insignificant, is frankly a pain in the ass.

I would love to go back to just enjoying the game, except valve seems like they'd love to throw some caltrops in my path for no apparent reason. I wanna do something as simple and innocent as putting a space marine as my background, and I get a pay wall. As someone who's spent just shy of 6 thousand hours on this program, I just thought maybe Valve would throw me a peanut or two.

I did certainly mean to respond to you.

Let me boil it down a bit simpler, iof it helps.

What you're doing is possibly exercising in a couple of logical fallacies (and logical fallacies, as I'm sure you know, can NEVER form a correct ever, no matter what the situation in reality).

The first is that you are assuming that the "jumping through hoops" and you can't buy stuff for games you don't own are convulted for no good reason. This is known as an argument from personal incredulity fallacy - or "I don't know why this is happening therefore x". The point being if you are starting out with "i don't know why" then you can NEVER arrive at a valid conclusion, except by sheer chance.

Have you considered instead this - that it might be that way to stop their system ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up completely?

It's COMMON on services that are live, and fluid to have situations like this. Simply because you're tacking a system onto a pre-exiting one, and it may be an idea that was never foreseen. So that means they'renot going to rewrite EVERYTHING just to add this feature. That'd be absurd.

So, in the case with buying background images for games you don't own, have you consider the possibility that if you bought one, it might trip up earning it with a booster pack should you ever buy that game in future?

The point here being that because you cannot know why, you CANNOT form a valid assumption. You can only guess.

And that's why I made this point. You're getting heated up about stuff you CANNOT know and CANNOT solve. Your best solution is to find out how it actually works from our point of view and use it that way, whether or not it seems alien to you. You soon pick up the habit.

And there's no need for hyperbole - a 47 page walkthourhg is bloody nonsense and you know it.

Let me summarize this with a simple analogy - my personal example.

I'm disabled and in my fifties. I'm quite lazy, and so I don't look into things unless I absolutely must. I just can't be bothered.

I retired about 5 years ago, and at that time, I had several PCas both at home and at my work that I gamed on. When I retired, I needed a new PC coincidentally, so I decided to take a break from them as I couldn't justify the cost at that time.

I play on all other platforms, so this was no big deal.

However, I returned in February after needing to get a PC for some audio stuff. No matter. Log into Steam and be up and running in no time. I was. But ... there had been considerable changes to Steam in those interim 5 years.

The layout was VASTLY different to what I remembered, and it was like going round a familiar shop which has had it's stock moved around. It took some getting used to.

But the used to part I got on top of quickly because I NEEDED to. And it wasn't difficult. It wasn't a "47 page walkthrough" or any silliness like that. Just a quick google of something, or a brief nose at these forums, and I was up to speed completely in about three days.

So, no I don't believe a word of what you say about it being that hard, because if that were the case, I wouldn't have done it as said.

So the bottom line remains, it's in your best interest to cool yourself, take a breath and step back and calmly evaluate things. You only have to look ANYTHING up once.

Why continue in your way of being hyperbolic and so on and getting stressed when games and everything around it are fun? I have lots of fun on here, both from the camaraderie on these forums, to jokes, the little Valve-led meta games during sales, and the games themselves.

There is ZERO reason you can't be doing the same as me. ZERO.

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