Steam Downloading Sucks!

[Podexy]

I was so irritated at my trickling downloading speed. LIterally just kept randomly having my downloads stop and go, stop and go. So I thought it was my computer which is brand new. So I factory reset it. 5 Hours later after reseting the freaking thing. Guess what still doesnt work. The dang steam downloading software! I said hey maybe its still my computer or something. Since ya know steam is a Multi-Billion Dollar company. Revolving around people buying there games, but no they dont give a damn about us trying to play the games we buy. After alot of frustration I tried battle.net to download SC-II and Diablo 3. Worked awesomely. Was downloading at 13mbs and finished in no time. I live in central US so I changed the download server to like 5 different ones so far. STILL keeps happening . Like seriously gaben? Cut the crap. I really dont wanna buy anymore games from steam, specifily for this reason.There just lucky dota 2 if free XD.

[crunchyfrog]

Reticuli の投稿を引用：

Steam sucks. Very buggy. When I downloaded Elite Dangerous it froze like half a dozen times and had 1,100 corrupt files. Downloading SteamVR took over a day to work it out and was even more difficult. Seems like something the FTC should look into, since they clearly didn't get to this status as a result of coding capability of their own. Anti-trust issues, since for a lot of stuff you can only get it through Steam now and can't use them each time after you have installed the software without running Steam. Oh, Steam also claimed one of my serials (A-10) for DCS was theirs or blacklisted or something like 8 years after I purchased the serial from another site using a different email address I no longer have access to. DCS was like, sorry, you need to prove you purchased that serial now. With my old mailcity Lycos account, are you serious? Steam is scammy as hell and everyone else bends to their whims or is afraid of them.

Then by all means make your own thread in Help and Tips and give precise details as to what you've done, what messages you got and so on.

Then we can have a pop at helping you.

Do not hijack old threads.

[Senor Pocket]

I'm having the same issue https://www.speedtest.net/result/13239997427.png
I have 796 down 640 up and I'm stuck at an average of 3mb/s. The worst part is I'm CONSTANTLY ducking to 0.. I've changed the server location, cleared the download cached, turned off my firewall (even though steam already permission on it) What do it do??

[zarex]

fix

[HaroldTheNorse]

Just found this tip about Steam download speed. Your computer performance and the size of the existing game content are factors in the speed of downloading. During an update, Steam sends compressed differential files over the network to your computer. Your computer needs to do processing before, during and after the actual downloading. Some explanation here.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/3426689579756592748/

[crunchyfrog]

Senor Pocket の投稿を引用：

I'm having the same issue https://www.speedtest.net/result/13239997427.png
I have 796 down 640 up and I'm stuck at an average of 3mb/s. The worst part is I'm CONSTANTLY ducking to 0.. I've changed the server location, cleared the download cached, turned off my firewall (even though steam already permission on it) What do it do??

That's how it SHOULD work.

Check the graph on the downloads page. You'll see when it drops to 0 your hard drive is working.

Steam downloads in chunks ans the files are compressed and encrypted. So not only does it stop and start, but you need to understand that this compression requires OTHER aspects of your PC to work hard - hard drive, I/O, RAM, CPU and so on.

So they end up being your limiting factor.

[SilverHawk]

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

Senor Pocket の投稿を引用：

I'm having the same issue https://www.speedtest.net/result/13239997427.png
I have 796 down 640 up and I'm stuck at an average of 3mb/s. The worst part is I'm CONSTANTLY ducking to 0.. I've changed the server location, cleared the download cached, turned off my firewall (even though steam already permission on it) What do it do??

That's how it SHOULD work.

Check the graph on the downloads page. You'll see when it drops to 0 your hard drive is working.

Steam downloads in chunks ans the files are compressed and encrypted. So not only does it stop and start, but you need to understand that this compression requires OTHER aspects of your PC to work hard - hard drive, I/O, RAM, CPU and so on.

So they end up being your limiting factor.

No wonder why downloading is so bad on Steam compared to other downloaders.

[crunchyfrog]

SilverHawk の投稿を引用：

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

That's how it SHOULD work.

Check the graph on the downloads page. You'll see when it drops to 0 your hard drive is working.

Steam downloads in chunks ans the files are compressed and encrypted. So not only does it stop and start, but you need to understand that this compression requires OTHER aspects of your PC to work hard - hard drive, I/O, RAM, CPU and so on.

So they end up being your limiting factor.

No wonder why downloading is so bad on Steam compared to other downloaders.

Well yes and no.

If your metric is purely speed then sure. But reality doesn't work like that.

There's reasons WHY this is done this way. The prime reason being bandwidth. You have to understand that Steam is INTERNATIONAL. Many people in countries all over the world have poor net options. Even in countries like America.

Because of this, it makes good sense to compress a game as much as is feasible to help them.

There are other reasons, of course, but you can't say it's poor when you don't understand the reasons behind it.

[SilverHawk]

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

SilverHawk の投稿を引用：

No wonder why downloading is so bad on Steam compared to other downloaders.

Well yes and no.

If your metric is purely speed then sure. But reality doesn't work like that.

There's reasons WHY this is done this way. The prime reason being bandwidth. You have to understand that Steam is INTERNATIONAL. Many people in countries all over the world have poor net options. Even in countries like America.

Because of this, it makes good sense to compress a game as much as is feasible to help them.

There are other reasons, of course, but you can't say it's poor when you don't understand the reasons behind it.

There were other solutions that fragmented files in order to make downloads faster, and they still download faster than Steam itself. It's either the app or the CDN itself the cause of the slow downloads.

[genius pig brainblast]

Senor Pocket の投稿を引用：

I'm having the same issue https://www.speedtest.net/result/13239997427.png
I have 796 down 640 up and I'm stuck at an average of 3mb/s. The worst part is I'm CONSTANTLY ducking to 0.. I've changed the server location, cleared the download cached, turned off my firewall (even though steam already permission on it) What do it do??

having the exact same issue. and i dont wanna hear this bs about how it dropping to 0 is because your SSD is working when other people download games at 50 mb/s perfectly every time.

[SilverHawk]

baba bodo の投稿を引用：

Senor Pocket の投稿を引用：

I'm having the same issue https://www.speedtest.net/result/13239997427.png
I have 796 down 640 up and I'm stuck at an average of 3mb/s. The worst part is I'm CONSTANTLY ducking to 0.. I've changed the server location, cleared the download cached, turned off my firewall (even though steam already permission on it) What do it do??

having the exact same issue. and i dont wanna hear this bs about how it dropping to 0 is because your SSD is working when other people download games at 50 mb/s perfectly every time.

That bs is only to blame your PC rather than see that it is a Steam problem. Get used to it, it's completely normal here in these forums(not only in this community).
I never get a single 0-drop in other downloaders like XBOX App, FDM or Origin.

[Elucidator]

Steam has its packages split up in parts that it grabs from multiple locations.
After obtaining these parts, it combines them, then decrypts the file, then extracts it and after that validates the package.

Your direct downloaders have 1 connection, to 1 file stream, which downloads 1 file at a time, which is the clean file. Extracting happens after file completion, there is no two tasks being done at the same time, hense you don't see this odd behavior elsewhere.

Download speed goes down when the SSD/HDD is completely busy with Random Writes.
What are random writes and why are they random? I suspect because you don't optimize / trim the ssd very often so it just ... moves stuff cell over cell automatically.
Anyway, since SSDs do not get defragged (which is useless due to them moving bytes anyway) the random write speed is of huge importance in determining its actual speed.

Since it can do tasks at once, but can be completely occupied, its likely your device was simply too busy.

The bottleneck can be outside of steam, for example windows update.

At any rate you can max out your DL speed by at least resetting your DNS/TCP/IP completely, because windows update tends to break it in the registry somewhere on windows 11.

Also this thread is old. Complaining maybe on topic, but the situation has changed over time. Windows 11 wasn't the main go to back then, client changes happened, etc. As such it is a bit meaningless since the complains are highly likely unrelated. I'll point to the derail rule and remind you hopefully that way. Keep in mind that it is considered necroing to keep this around instead of making a new complain thread. (its also forum off topic anyway since this is a help and tips forum)

Anyway I doubt this is useful for op since the thread is almost a decade old. Tip here: Make your own threads next time please. People will read it at some point.

Edit; You can keep continue doing what you want either way. Its not my job to moderate, but as a user who posts sometimes i do like to have a bit of oversight and keep the forums clean where I can myself. So I gave my opinion, that's it.

[SilverHawk]

Elucidator の投稿を引用：

Steam has its packages split up in parts that it grabs from multiple locations.
After obtaining these parts, it combines them, then decrypts the file, then extracts it and after that validates the package.

Your direct downloaders have 1 connection, to 1 file stream, which downloads 1 file at a time, which is the clean file. Extracting happens after file completion, there is no two tasks being done at the same time, hense you don't see this odd behavior elsewhere.

Download speed goes down when the SSD/HDD is completely busy with Random Writes.
What are random writes and why are they random? I suspect because you don't optimize / trim the ssd very often so it just ... moves stuff cell over cell automatically.
Anyway, since SSDs do not get defragged (which is useless due to them moving bytes anyway) the random write speed is of huge importance in determining its actual speed.

Since it can do tasks at once, but can be completely occupied, its likely your device was simply too busy.

The bottleneck can be outside of steam, for example windows update.

At any rate you can max out your DL speed by at least resetting your DNS/TCP/IP completely, because windows update tends to break it in the registry somewhere on windows 11.

Also this thread is old. Complaining maybe on topic, but the situation has changed over time. Windows 11 wasn't the main go to back then, client changes happened, etc. As such it is a bit meaningless since the complains are highly likely unrelated. I'll point to the derail rule and remind you hopefully that way. Keep in mind that it is considered necroing to keep this around instead of making a new complain thread. (its also forum off topic anyway since this is a help and tips forum)

Anyway I doubt this is useful for op since the thread is almost a decade old. Tip here: Make your own threads next time please. People will read it at some point.

Edit; You can keep continue doing what you want either way. Its not my job to moderate, but as a user who posts sometimes i do like to have a bit of oversight and keep the forums clean where I can myself. So I gave my opinion, that's it.

FDM and other downloaders also break the file up in pieces to speed up the download(into multiple connections). A max of 200 connections per download.

[Elucidator]

For feedback and complains on the Steam Client's behavior, you can go to the Steam Client Beta community hub and post there. The devs read posts there and they take feedback seriously apparently.

I don't know how it works, but the client has to log into those locations and establish a connection. The line is encrypted and such. Usually, standard client downloaders don't do this stuff and just block it when it doesn't have the proper argument.
This is a community hub and the devs don't really read here. So its pointless to complain about these things, unless you believe that the problem is somewhere on your own system and need help from other users with it.

Apparently you clearly don't and none of the suggestions you read helped in anyway so, maybe you're right and the problem is your connections with Steam or the way steam behaves.

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SteamClientBeta/discussions/

[crunchyfrog]

SilverHawk の投稿を引用：

baba bodo の投稿を引用：

having the exact same issue. and i dont wanna hear this bs about how it dropping to 0 is because your SSD is working when other people download games at 50 mb/s perfectly every time.

That bs is only to blame your PC rather than see that it is a Steam problem. Get used to it, it's completely normal here in these forums(not only in this community).
I never get a single 0-drop in other downloaders like XBOX App, FDM or Origin.

That's because they workd differenlty as we've said.

You're making a flawed equivalanece there.

And please stop with the silly "you'll get this on the forums here". That sounds as if you're painting people as zealots. I am not that at all.

All I can do is advis based on EVIDENCE.

So what evidence do you have for YOUR claims?

[SilverHawk]

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

SilverHawk の投稿を引用：

That bs is only to blame your PC rather than see that it is a Steam problem. Get used to it, it's completely normal here in these forums(not only in this community).
I never get a single 0-drop in other downloaders like XBOX App, FDM or Origin.

That's because they workd differenlty as we've said.

You're making a flawed equivalanece there.

And please stop with the silly "you'll get this on the forums here". That sounds as if you're painting people as zealots. I am not that at all.

All I can do is advis based on EVIDENCE.

So what evidence do you have for YOUR claims?

Just see the other download complaints here on this forum. And also, all threads complaining about Steam itself.
Do a search for SLOW DOWNLOAD on the forums. There are threads about the 2015 bug that has never been fixed(I reported it back in 2015)(download stopping bug due to WiFi, yet the above mentioned programs all download at blazing fast speeds on WiFi).