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BLOOD ASYLUM 11 gen 2022, ore 9:25
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Discord Chat and a DDOS Attack On My Steam Account
I was in a public discord chat where everyone was trolling/trash talking each other, it was actually kinda funny. One guy wasn't a fan of me poking fun at him and he DDOSed my steam profile, it was inactive and it was generic numbers. Couldn't log into it. He then started asking me if I deleted my account, and asked that I give it to him so he could look me up. Screenshot em' and told em nah dude you're just trying to dos me so I screenshot people like you. He giggled and kept asking me to give him my account. He stopped when I stopped paying attention to him. I reported him to that servers moderators but we have a problem here.

1. He pulled an IP? through discord. Safe to assume it's third party.
2. I'm pretty sure he's asking me to 'give him' my account info so it seems like I'm consenting to his next step of hacking me.
3. Would a VPN be able to stop this? How the hell was he able to target steam and not my internet as a whole?!
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Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:
Messaggio originale di Muppet among Puppets:
What an annoying, unfunny and not fitting at all movie scene you choosed to post in this topic.
After people explained to you on 10 pages that you are not in danger.
They could have let you sit there behind your vpn worrying who is after you. They did not.

Probably one of the worst help topics i have ever seen.

And all because someone said something to you on discord. Which you believed without doubt. You believed it so strong, that a good dozen other people could not convince you of the opposite.

Think about it.
To be fair though, that is a great summation of their comments here as they have the same level of rationale and evidence.
That is what we see,
but what do we know........
Messaggio originale di Muppet among Puppets:
Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:
To be fair though, that is a great summation of their comments here as they have the same level of rationale and evidence.
That is what we see,
but what do we know........

Well, evidence for a start ;)
Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0d1t_NMJjc

Btw there is a scene in that movie that describes your thread pretty accurate:

https://youtu.be/D4Ha_XjCuA8
Messaggio originale di Prof.Jackie:
Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0d1t_NMJjc

Btw there is a scene in that movie that describes your thread pretty accurate:

https://youtu.be/D4Ha_XjCuA8
Touché
Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:
Your mother will lower her firearm when she sees me. It will literally be love at first sight. She will beg me to make you the man you should be. I will take parenting serious even if that means telling you things you don't want to hear or dealing out punishments that seem unfair. You will learn, through time, our love is real and that we are family.
If it makes you feel better about yourself to continue denigrating me, have at it. It's a clear indication of your resignation when you have nothing left to offer than mom jokes.

Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:
I didn't say you're wrong, I just believe this to be an actual situation where I was hacked or dossed. I was asking for help to prevent this, and was overwhelmed with ad hom, philosophy, self projection, and weirdness.
Your every response has been telling others that they're wrong because of what you believe. Even this quoted statement is contradictory in of itself. Instead of listening to the overwhelming majority of longtime users of the service, you dismiss their statements as "ad hom, philosophy, self projection, and weirdness" because you'd rather believe what some random person from a Discord chat who told you misleading statements about what you were seeing because you pissed them off after poking fun at them.
Messaggio originale di rawWwRrr:
Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:
Your mother will lower her firearm when she sees me. It will literally be love at first sight. She will beg me to make you the man you should be. I will take parenting serious even if that means telling you things you don't want to hear or dealing out punishments that seem unfair. You will learn, through time, our love is real and that we are family.
If it makes you feel better about yourself to continue denigrating me, have at it. It's a clear indication of your resignation when you have nothing left to offer than mom jokes.

Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:
I didn't say you're wrong, I just believe this to be an actual situation where I was hacked or dossed. I was asking for help to prevent this, and was overwhelmed with ad hom, philosophy, self projection, and weirdness.
Your every response has been telling others that they're wrong because of what you believe. Even this quoted statement is contradictory in of itself. Instead of listening to the overwhelming majority of longtime users of the service, you dismiss their statements as "ad hom, philosophy, self projection, and weirdness" because you'd rather believe what some random person from a Discord chat who told you misleading statements about what you were seeing because you pissed them off after poking fun at them.
All while presenting ZERO evidence for their claims.

Which MUST mean they are dismissed as nonsense.

They don't get to create their own logic and reality :)
good job making 160 comments with this thread, megatrolled :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel:
Messaggio originale di Toe Condom:
good job making 160 comments with this thread, megatrolled :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel: :ujel:
That is not established at all.

How did you determine that?
You were not ddossed or hacked.

If you had been, you were dropped out of discord. The guy could not have asked you how you feel.
Even if he could, he would have been busy with your account.

All this did not happen.
So, read the first line of this post again.
Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:
Everyone else from the start came here looking for a debate, in a very inappropriate way.
my goal was to try and get your eyes open and see if I can provide some information Everyone else had pretty much already answered what happened at that time.

Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:
'Hey I was molested. What should I do?' - Person
'You really believe that? Where's your proof? Why would we believe you? How do you know?'- Steam Guy
If someone were to post such message on the Steam Community help forums instead of at the police, then everyone would immediately suspect its someone who just wants to grab some attention and sympathy, or to make others feel along with them and get them angry at a specific person. Never mind, these questions are valid, since its a serious accusation and the subject doesn't belong on Steam so likely a moderator would have closed it.

Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:
'My mom died and I'm feeling suicidal, what should I do?" - Person
"No one believes your mom died, as you haven't provided an obituary. Why do you think she's dead?' - Steam Guy
People don't say these things out of nowhere. I suspect that they have seen the Person's mother in this case for example. Again the first question is 'why on the Steam community forums', to which the answer is likely sympathy seeking. The real answer is obvious. "go see a professional". Someone in the field of mental therapy.
Whatever you do is up to you and only you can change how you feel if you don't want to feel that way.

Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:
'My xbox 360 got the red ring, what do I do?" - Person
'Look man, everyone already told you to wrap your 360 in a towel and turn it on to reset the heating chip inside. You are just too unintelligent to know to do this, and only you are to blame.' - Steam Guy
No, they would instead say that you're not reading their advise and the words somehow don't arrive properly. It entirely depends on the Person in this case, how he reacts, how the Steam community would react. Here too though, they would likely first point you to the xbox community forums instead since they have a lot more expertise there. And so they question why here. Same answer, sympathy seeking.

Messaggio originale di BLOOD ASYLUM:
My favorite one here though

'My spine is shattered, I can't walk, someone help me."- Person in need.
"Hmmm it appears you have munchausen and are mentally ill. Maybe if you tried to exhibit some positive behavior we would be more inclined to take you serious. As right now I believe you have aspergers due to your lack of being able to take care of yourself and always vying for attention by using means most people would consider to be an urgent issue. Emotionally distant, and narcistic, you clearly have mental illness. One day you might beat it and listen to healthy, normal people. God bless you." Steam Guy with VHS of Lost in Translation.

You're sitting on a computer, relaxedly typing with a back straight, somehow moving your arms to create a full thread about your 'issue' on the steam community forums instead of letting someone else find you and talk to a doctor to help. I mean, normally people with such issue cannot even see nor conclude this since there is too much blood and flesh in the way, never mind that they are on the floor, so part of their own body is covering up the scene. There is no way the person who has it would know. Never mind he would be in severe pain, making him unable to focus and move properly.

So the reaction is extremely legit in this case. Why is it on the steam community forums, sympathy seeking, attention begging, etc. They however wouldn't conclude aspergers, but straight up go for narcistic personality disorder - victim type.

The boy who cried wolf - that kind of scenario could maybe be described if this happened more often or for pages long on the same thread indeed (if that is what you mean).


Point is, so far you seem to observe a fictional version of the reality we see. I don't see a point of disrespect considering the posts however, except for a couple that have been removed it seems. All of them attempted to consider your scenario seriously and take your words as real, but we all simply concluded the oposite. We didn't want to make you feel attacked or looked down upon with those conclusions, but for some these things are overly obvious and so they react as if everyone knows this and it is common sense. So, that may have been where you may have spotted some, somewhat mean sounding comments and you're correct that things could have been delivered on a more friendly tone towards you, but considering a lot of our messages are ignored, you could say the same about disrespect towards us.

I think like myself, others simply too wanted to show you what likely and actually happened there and what is currently happening here. The goal wasn't to argue. A lot of valid arguments have been mentioned.

Look, I just wanted to answer Muppet's questions to be honest, so you can ignore my words here if you want to.

Messaggio originale di Muppet among Puppets:
In what way is it insecure?
How is it like a bank with open doors?
What do criminals find in discord if they search through it?
I suspect that you tried to google around. I am honestly surprised you haven't found a single hint of security issues with Discord.

There are a number of articles reported by several cyber security companies, maybe you want to try looking for those.
Some things I can mention from my head at least is the following: Discord is used as command and control server by many maldoers. Discord doesn't delete a thing off their network and bots can access every post associated with a token using the API, even those no longer visible and deleted ones. Discord bad traffic cannot be seperated from good traffic by antivirus software and firewalls, so links and communication aren't blocked even if it is bad.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zkP9bPDxgOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZLjwxTRM6k
There is a lot more, but most of them are related to the things discussed to the above two videos and this is because of all the access you get just from grabbing your session token that is stored in a cookie temporarily.
Just do not ever link your discord account to Steam and don't ever buy nitro, otherwise they can get your bank and credit card details simply by having your token. Two factor authentication or needing to use a password to login somewhere is never asked if you never log out with the log out button and so the session never expires and can be transfered over ips globally and other machines. Discord prioritizes easy access features and easiness and it comes at the cost of all forms of security it could have. Meaning its easy, therefore a lot of simplistic people use it but its also a nice net for criminals to work from and causes problems everywhere.
Its extremely easy for maldoers to, especially after taking one account take the next. Their goal is to get bank related information, so they primarily target those with steam account links (for selling items) and those with nitro (who left their stuff on their discord account somewhere) + they also target them because they have a long list of friends and other servers they can work from. And their bot API integration is crap. It cannot determine a difference between account and bot account, so they can turn a user into a bot at any time as well and abuse the api from there.
Ultima modifica da Elucidator; 16 gen 2022, ore 7:22
This thread is no longer constructive and has therefore been locked. As a reminder to all users, please remain respectful towards other Steam users. Thank you for your understanding.
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