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"External hard drives are not recommended for use with Steam or Steam's games. Aside from many potential performance issues, external hard drives may connect or disconnect from the computer at inopportune times as part of their normal operations. If you encounter this issue with an external drive, install Steam and your games to an internal drive instead."
But if I am out of storage on the laptop, I wouldn't have a choice. My only other option would be to keep just a limited number of Steam games on the new laptop PC, and run the larger games on the older desktop PC instead. But it would be nice to have access to all my games on the laptop.
Just out of curiosity, what laptop are you using?
If its not an Apple product (can't say anything about those due to lack of experience )you might be able to easily expand the internal storage with an M.2 SSD. If at all possible, that would be the best solution in my opinion.
USB external SSD's might also work, but you might encounter all sorts of funky issues with those :D
Honestly, I would take that with a pinch of salt.
Why?
Simple. I've been on Steam over 10 years. I have over 1300 games. I've ALWAYS palyed on laptops, and these days exclusively.
I run several external USB drives, and nowadays USB 3.0 drives.
They work perfectly and I get no real noticeable slow speeds or game realted problems at all.
I bought my last USB drive last years from Amazon - a 2TB model for £40. Cheap as chips.
But you need to remember a couple of things, and it should run perfectly.
(1) ALWAYS make sure you have power saving settings on your laptop set to full power at all times. EVERYTHING at max.
(2) NEVER use sleep mode. Always shut your laptop down properly.
(3) Set the properties on your hard drives to never go dormant after a period of no usage.
Currently my setup is I have three USB drives on my laptop, two internal drives (a mechanical and a SSD). I keep two of those drives plugged in at any time usually. And I have about 500 games installed out of the aforementioned 1300.
DO these and you wont' get the situation where steam stops seeing your drives and games.
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-spectre-x360-convertible-laptop-pc-15-eb1000-(3n391av)/
I am already running out of storage on the 512 GB SSD, which is with less than half of my Steam games, plus my other Windows applications (system and application files only). The SSD is upgradeable to at least 1 TB, possibly 2 TB, but upgrading the SSD might void the HP warranty.
The simplest solution I think is something like a 1-TB SandDisk Extreme MicroSDXC on the internal MicroSDXC card slot. The only faster option would likely be a USB 3.2 solid-state drive, which might also be cheaper too, but would require plugging and unplugging the drive each time I want to use it. There are only two USB 4.0 type C ports, and only one USB 3.2 type A port.
There is also the hassle of needing to securely disconnect the external drive (if Quick Removal is disabled to improve performance), versus the MicroSDXC being always mounted, without any need to remove it for travel.
Has anyone tried running Steam from MicroSDXC? Bad idea or acceptable performance compared to an internal HDD? I run all my Steam games now from an HDD on the desktop PC. The MicroSDXC card would be formatted as NTFS with Quick Removal disabled for maximum performance.
They are not designed for quick or repeated read and write cyckles on the fly. It CAN be done, but it's not reliable and it can just fail quickly.
You're better off doing as I said - getting a USB external drive as it works fine.
Even for a desktop PC, often if you open the case to peek inside, it voids the warranty. I would have to talk to HP to find out any specific details.
My understanding is that SD cards, USB thumb drives, and external solid-state drives all use the same technology? External SSD is probably rated for more writes-rewrites though. However, once the game is installed, it would mostly be read-only data, other than the savegame files and occasional game updates?
Crunchyfrog is right, external drives should work fine. That whole warning on Steam is for pc newbies basically, as external drives are often used with laptops and those laptops are running on balanced mode (power management plan I mean, instead of High Performance mode) and Steam doesn't want to explain how to make their external drives run properly to children, who they think may throw those things somewhere instead of leaving them resting while they are in use. (you may want to turn off cache by the way, if you plan on swapping them out a lot)
Anyway no fear on the external drives.
If you do get one USB 3.0 is recommended, unless you have a dedicated sata cable on your laptop sticking out somewhere, ...... (no laptop has this unfortunately)
MicroSD and USB use flash tech as well, yes, and Microsoft once thought it was a good idea to add a feature to windows to let your USB be used as a RAM drive. (Called ReadyBOOST or something)
unfortunately they are designed for long term memory keeping and low usage, so when you use them as a disk drive where a game on top keeps updating, they break kinda quickly.
There's no advanced SSD tech implemented in those things, like error checking, cell checking, if the wrong cells die the entire usb becomes useless.
Honestly it should be possible to game from one, but loading it on the thing and reading it from the thing will be a lot slower than with ssd and I don't think it will last very long.
(this link talks about speed)
https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=199414
(this link talks about lifespan and speed)
https://www.usbmemorydirect.com/blog/flash-drives-vs-sd-cards/
(This one explains why sd card is slower than ssd)
https://marketbusinessnews.com/sd-card-vs-ssd-is-there-difference/249661/
Summarized: its possible, but not the recommended approach, though you can still do it and feel happy with the results.
So which is best, best to worst.
in my opinion: External SSD, External HDD, USB, SDXC
(one reason why I put the last one last is because I easily lose small things, but, aside that its designed for photos and such, not super large files.)
Speed highly depends on the cable and port controller (USB 2 or USB 3) A good, clean HDD can read and write over 100MB/s, so with USB 2, both HDD and SSD should be just as fast (at the start at least), but the SSD doesn't have slowdowns, where the HDD does. However the HDD lasts longer and often has more storage cheaper.
so that said, you may even want to put HDD at 1, if you plan on putting it away and exchanging it with another HDD (depending on the game set)
External SSD is just all round good, at any time basically and very fast, just not for 'very long' term storage (cells will lose their charge basically).
BONUS: here's the answer
Format, Minimalistic linux installation with Steam and Proton. (archbased preferred)
now you have more room on your laptop main drive. Perfect. And no forced updates and unwanted bloat nonsense.
USB 4.0 (Thunderbolt 4) is seven times faster than SATA 3.0: 40 GBd for USB 4 versus only 6 GBd for SATA 3. Whereas USB 3.2 is only 5 GBd, but still almost as fast as SATA 3. So I figure any external solid-state drive on USB 3.2 might be almost as fast as an internal HDD on SATA 3?
The main issue with an external SSD is safe disconnects. With Windows Fast Boot, I don't think you can unplug a drive after shutting down. It is better if you eject the drive from Windows, then unplug it, and then shut down the computer. That's an extra step that has to be remembered so could be problematic compared to a MicroSDXC card, which doesn't need to be disconnected.
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone makes external drives with USB 4 yet. In theory, you could design an external drive with two Thunderbolt 4 ports to work in parallel for a combined read/write speed of 80 GBd. I am still waiting to see if anyone is going to start making external GPUs for Thunderbolt 4, but the integrated graphics with an 11th-gen Intel i7 are blazing fast --- I can run everything on high or very high graphics settings without needing a dedicated GPU. That's one of the reasons why I'd like to make the Windows 11 laptop my primary computer, instead of replacing the old processor on the Windows 10 desktop (with the dedicated GPU) to get it to run Windows 11.
I use Windows ReadyBoost with the desktop HDD. My understanding is that Intel Optane is basically the same idea, to create an intermediate cache or swap space between the RAM and the storage drives.
I did read an article recently about error-checking and fragmentation on solid-state drives versus thumb drives. That's a good point. The solid-state drive would be more reliable than a thumb drive or SD card. Even with daily backups, you could lose a lot of gameplay if the drive fails. And hourly backups would have a performance impact if it backs up during gameplay. My understanding though is that unlike with a hard-disk drive, you still don't really get much or any warning for when a solid-state drive is about to fail? I keep all of my important files and data on hard disks.
I don't currently own any external solid-state drives, but I could do some testing by installing some games on MicroSDXC, thumb drives, and external HDDs to compare the difference, though that would mean uninstalling and reinstalling several times.
Is there a way to test the read/write speed of external drives? That might be an easy empirical way to figure out the best option.