you get warned and banned for the same comment?

[ZAToM]

hello, i made a joke on a steam forums and a mod didnt understand it :) i got a warning and he deleted the post

i posted again, without joking or anything and i asked the mod if he could point out what the problem is. then the second post got deleted and i got permanently banned.
the mod claims to have made a mistake, he wanted to ban me for the first comment in hindsight because then after some time he changed his mind and thought a warning is not strong enough and then he misclicked and banned me for my second post which is now deleted to

so my question could he actually ban me for the first post if it is already deleted (by him) and i already got a warning for it?
or is it a case of abusing power because i asked him why or something like that?

[Heisenquark]

you should really show some humility and forget about the thing and apologize and let it rest

[ZAToM]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Heisenquark:

you should really show some humility and forget about the thing and apologize and let it rest

i dont feel in the wrong, i dont really care about the game, i would accept an apology from the mod but i really dont care, im just curious if it is possible or if he is abusing mechanics

if i should apologise tbh i dont even know to whom or for what thou

[Wolf Knight]

yes they can.

if you feel a moderator has abused their power:

Game forum moderator - contact that games developer
Global Steam Moderator - report them thru their profile

game hubs moderators are selected by the game developer, and the game forums are run the way the game developer wishes. if they wish to have people banned for the first offense, that is their right to have bans issued for the first offense.

[ZAToM]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Wolf Knight:

yes they can.

if you feel a moderator has abused their power:

Game forum moderator - contact that games developer
Global Steam Moderator - report them thru their profile

game hubs moderators are selected by the game developer, and the game forums are run the way the game developer wishes. if they wish to have people banned for the first offense, that is their right to have bans issued for the first offense.

then thank you a lot i guess nothing i can do then

[Elucidator]

It gets vague.
I got perm banned twice form a community hub for the same post that basically said "I wish you good faith and good luck with your future development"
by the sole game developer (of that hub).
and I didn't post a any second comment anywhere either. (edit: I mean I only made one post)
Sigh-
In all honesty that person is rather weird. I was following his curation (reviews) and he contacted me at some point. We had a chat, he then convinced himself he was forced to chat back to me immediately somehow, so he banned me from contacting him and... then that happened.
no reason was stated. When I asked he said "pretending that you don't know-"
I was like "what?"
never mind. He only left one message before unsubscribing from the only form of contact I could have with the 'moderation team' (one person, him), so yeah.
he's like "f" you, etc. I can still stalk him because I got two perm bans on the same post and the other one has yet to be used, so if I send a message there he gets a notification, etc.
but meh-
whatever
its a lost cause.

(he doesn't understand by banning me I can only contact him on the community, no one else there, so ... whatever I guess)

but yeah I asked about it and "someone from the dream team" basically said no rule was broken. (and completely ignored my questions and the point of my support ticket, namely twice? etc.)
(support only reads into what they like and don't perceive as rage spamming)
never mind I guess.

Anyway yes, overlords on the forums / hubs can ban you for any and no reason at all and indeed twice for the very same post. (they can literally click the same post and use it as reason to perm ban you twice if not more)

Edit:
Note that Steam resorts to social shaming. If you get warned or banned you get flags on your account that will be used by other functions.
Not caring about the date, when or why, in the future you may notice cooldowns. When you installed a game, there will be a timeout before you can post anything or leave a review on the community hub, because Steam assumes you misbehaved. Stuff like that.
Also they can see how many times you have been warned and banned and will use that to discriminately raise the temp ban counter for example. (where someone else might get banned for a month for something, you may get banned 3 months because you had a ban elsewhere before for the same type of reason)
simplified, in Valve's eyes, flagged ones are criminals basically.
(they don't care if it is actually misplaced or not because mods are gods or something)

[nullable]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Elucidator:

but yeah I asked about it and "someone from the dream team" basically said no rule was broken. (and completely ignored my questions and the point of my support ticket, namely twice? etc.)
(support only reads into what they like and don't perceive as rage spamming)
never mind I guess.

The developer gets to run his hub how he wishes and he can ban you because he doesn't like the number of vowels in your name. Not much support is going to do about that. I mean it's not good for his community to be that erratic or hostile, but again that's his choice. And Steam is not developer mommy.

So grousing that support didn't address your issues sufficiently. I don't know. Sounds like you didn't like their answer and hoped there's some wiggle room to get some kind of response against him. Since you didn't, but can still imagine there could be something, you feel like Steam support blew you off... But what if they didn't. Because the developer being a jerk and doing something you don't like doesn't violate any rules...

[Count_Dandyman]

Reposting deleted content and arguing with mods are both considered to be violations of the rules so yeah you escalated things with your second posting and made it clear a warning wasn't something you would listen to.

[ZAToM]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Count_Dandyman:

Reposting deleted content and arguing with mods are both considered to be violations of the rules so yeah you escalated things with your second posting and made it clear a warning wasn't something you would listen to.

i did not repost my content and i did not argue with anyone at that point, i said i made another post where i literally said i am scared to ask the same questions again so i will not. i answered to the warning message in a private messaged and asked for clarification.. are you trying to tell me that is violation of the rules?

[The Giving One]

What was that joke about ? We can't see the post, so there is no way we can fact check things like this, you know. Not that it matters because discussing moderation in the forums is not allowed either.

Because of that very reason. We can't see what happened, and we cannot do anything about it.

Threats of violence, even as a joke, are not allowed as per the rules. Just so you know.

[taki]

i got perm. ban on hentai steamcommunity forum because i wrote "this game looks so old" ;D after that, i stop using hentai forums ;D some developers are really too serious about their games

[The Giving One]

Oprindeligt skrevet af taki:

i got perm. ban on hentai steamcommunity forum because i wrote "this game looks so old" ;D after that, i stop using hentai forums ;D some developer are really too serious about their games

People often say " I got a permanent ban for......" but they also leave out the huge list of bans they got before that one, which caused their level of punishment to be necessary to be made permanent.

The devil is in the details, as they say. Not saying that applies to you, but just saying generally.

[ZAToM]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2285078615

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ZAToM \\{{~*~}}//:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2285078615

Racism seems wrong but the ban looks fine to me.

[The Giving One]

Yep, as always, there is more to the story.

[Elucidator]

Oprindeligt skrevet af The Giving One:

Yep, as always, there is more to the story.

See, this is why I tried to explain what happened to me. e.e;
but I can't since apparently it is "bait for non-constructive arguments"
Ah well. (just saying I am not allowed to apparently)