Full nudity in Steam Store

!HotCakeX Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:23pm

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
They don't post here, it's a fact. Just because something is reported DOES NOT mean it goes straight to Valve.

Yes I already knew it. and my intention was not to contact Valve for this. I don't know where you got that feeling that I wanted to talk to the Valve, but it's wrong.

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
See the game is the OP's first post? Nothing to do with Valve whatsoever. That gams' developer is solely responsible for any and all content...not Valve. Developers and publishers run their storefront, gamehubs, and forum as they see fit. As long as it's not illegal, odds are nothing will happen.

That's one of the reasons why I decided to post it here. I don't want some game dev or owner of a group ban me just because I point out problems about their game.
the other reason is, since Moderators moderate contents on the Steam, they could see the post too. again no intention to contact Valve.

my post here says more: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/1735465524722059421/?tscn=1537934451#c1735466157768046130

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Spawn of Totoro Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:24pm

Originally posted by HotCakeX:
Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:
I think I understand what the OP is saying.

It is that the main title image shows nudity, with out having to go through the age gate before seeing it.

I can see that as an issue and will ask about it.

HI, thanks for your reply. yes I mean that, but i also didn't know it's allowed to put nudity right on the store page, I thought and as Steam staff said, since "games are only available to those who own it but community contents can be accessed by everyone", games can have nudity in their gameplay but we can't actually take screenshots and post them on the Steam community hub.
But then again, according to what you say and what we see, it's okay to put those contents on the store page with an age gate or whatever.

so the whole point of my post is this, if putting adult contents right in the store page is ok then fine, I never complain or anything about those contents, but then allow us to post those type of screenshots in the game hub too.

Why? because..users practically need to go through the same process to view the nudity content. both adult game and an adult user generated content have a buffer page, they warn/check you before letting you see them. one of them requires the user to simply choose a date while the other requires the user to give explicit permission before letting them see the adult user generated content.

There are settings to stop it from showing on the store page. It showing on the store page is due to the settings for the account allowing it.

My understanding is that such content in the game's game hub is overlooked, provided the hub is behind an age gate, but that may also be up to the game hubs moderators if they wish to allow it as well. Then again, this is also new territory, so we are still figuring some of it out as well, so could also be wrong about such images in the game's game hub.

The images may be blurred, reguardless, but that is another setting a user can change.

Last edited by Spawn of Totoro; Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:25pm

#32

C²C^Guyver |NZB| Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:31pm

Originally posted by HotCakeX:
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
They don't post here, it's a fact. Just because something is reported DOES NOT mean it goes straight to Valve.

Yes I already knew it. and my intention was not to contact Valve for this. I don't know where you got that feeling that I wanted to talk to the Valve, but it's wrong.

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
See the game is the OP's first post? Nothing to do with Valve whatsoever. That gams' developer is solely responsible for any and all content...not Valve. Developers and publishers run their storefront, gamehubs, and forum as they see fit. As long as it's not illegal, odds are nothing will happen.
That's one of the reasons why I decided to post it here. I don't want some game dev or owner of a group ban me just because I point out problems about their game.
the other reason is, since Moderators moderate contents on the Steam, they could see the post too. again no intention to contact Valve.

my post here says more: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/1735465524722059421/?tscn=1537934451#c1735466157768046130

You quoted all that, yet missed this crucial tidbit

Valve has given us control of.most of what we see and don't see in Steam.

#33

Jack Schitt Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:47pm

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:
There are settings to stop it from showing on the store page. It showing on the store page is due to the settings for the account allowing it.

My understanding is that such content in the game's game hub is overlooked, provided the hub is behind an age gate, but that may also be up to the game hubs moderators if they wish to allow it as well. Then again, this is also new territory, so we are still figuring some of it out as well, so could also be wrong about such images in the game's game hub.

The images may be blurred, reguardless, but that is another setting a user can change.

We should probably all make note that if you search for the game through a browser, not the client, and you're not logged in to your account that indicates your age and 'parental' settings the page for the game in question doesn't even display and acts as if it's not even there but if you login and you're allowed to see it due to age restrictions it's there.

So it seems the security for it is in tact and working.

https://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/922800/

Oops, sorry!
An error was encountered while processing your request:

You must login to see this content.

It doesn't show in the store page for me or by directly going to the URL if I'm not logged in.

Last edited by Jack Schitt; Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:49pm

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!HotCakeX Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:48pm

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Originally posted by HotCakeX:

Yes I already knew it. and my intention was not to contact Valve for this. I don't know where you got that feeling that I wanted to talk to the Valve, but it's wrong.

That's one of the reasons why I decided to post it here. I don't want some game dev or owner of a group ban me just because I point out problems about their game.
the other reason is, since Moderators moderate contents on the Steam, they could see the post too. again no intention to contact Valve.

my post here says more: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/1735465524722059421/?tscn=1537934451#c1735466157768046130
You quoted all that, yet missed this crucial tidbit

Valve has given us control of.most of what we see and don't see in Steam.

I know that, but what you trying to see by that? if you mean that everyone can post whatever they want and it's the users who can choose to see only things they wanna see then that would be great but in reality it's not happening. even when Valve gave us tools to control what we see, they still don't let everything (except illegal) to be posted here and moderators ban even nsfw contents.

so you see It Doesn't Matter if they gave us tools to control what we see, they still moderate the contents themselves and for example don't allow you to see nsfw contents (not even nudity, just nsfw like showing cleavage) even if YOU choose and want to see them.

Last edited by !HotCakeX; Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:48pm

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Jack Schitt Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:55pm

HotCakeX,
Please read my last post. I think we were replying at the same time. The security is in tact and working. Am I misinterpreting what your concern is/was?

Last edited by Jack Schitt; Sep 25, 2018 @ 9:57pm

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C²C^Guyver |NZB| Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:04pm

Your preferences are configured to warn you about this kind of mature content.
Edit Preferences

Hmmmmm...imagine that.

Last edited by C²C^Guyver |NZB|; Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:09pm

#37

Jack Schitt Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:09pm

Some people prefer to use spell check and actually present themselves as being coherent and intelligent. C²C^Guyver |NZB| blocked. Tired of his trolling and BS attitude.

#38

C²C^Guyver |NZB| Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:13pm

Originally posted by Jack Schitt:
Some people prefer to use spell check and actually present themselves as being coherent and intelligent. C²C^Guyver |NZB| blocked. Tired of his trolling and BS attitude.

I'm not trolling or the mod would've said something. Try again....or you can stop. Either way, it won't get you anywhere.

#39

!HotCakeX Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:17pm

Originally posted by Jack Schitt:
So I no longer grasp what your purpose and concern is, HotCakeX.
Please read my last post. I think we were replying at the same time. The security is in tact and working.

this is strange, Idk why you keep telling me that, I Never said anything about missing age gate on that product!

this is my concern: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/1735465524722059421/?ctp=3#c1735466157768046130

for the 1000th time, adult games are fine and I'm glad they are on Steam store, with or without age verification is not my concern . I'm saying that if they are allowed then users should be allowed to take screenshots of such games and post them on Steam community too.

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C²C^Guyver |NZB| Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:22pm

Originally posted by HotCakeX:
Originally posted by Jack Schitt:
So I no longer grasp what your purpose and concern is, HotCakeX.
Please read my last post. I think we were replying at the same time. The security is in tact and working.

this is strange, Idk why you keep telling me that, I Never said anything about missing age gate on that product!

this is my concern: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/1735465524722059421/?ctp=3#c1735466157768046130

for the 1000th time, adult games are fine and I'm glad they are on Steam store, with or without age verification is not my concern . I'm saying that if they are allowed then users should be allowed to take screenshots of such games and post them on Steam community too.

I don't see this happening for two reasons.
1. There's no age gate.
2. You can be 13 years old and use Steam as per the SSA.

Last edited by C²C^Guyver |NZB|; Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:23pm

#41

Hanomaly Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:22pm

Originally posted by HotCakeX:
for the 1000th time, adult games are fine and I'm glad they are on Steam store, with or without age verification is not my concern . I'm saying that if they are allowed then users should be allowed to take screenshots of such games and post them on Steam community too.

Is the Steam Community and/or your Artwork/Screenshot section behind an age gate?

If the answer is yes, then sure your point makes sense. If we can age gate our Artwork/Screenshots, than adult stuff should be allowed to be posted.

If the answer is no, then it doesn't make sense that you are confused. As obviously the answer must be "behind an age gate, nudity is ok. Not behind an age gate? then not okay."

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Maybe in the future they will add a profile age gate or one for your Artwork, then you can show all the nudity you want on your profile and in your artwork and be happy.

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Edit: And YES age gates are easy to overcome. However, at least in the USA they seem to be enough to legally CYA. Many porn sites use them too. Of course, now a days, many others do not - tho possibly becaue they are located in countries with different rules or differnet CYA situations.

Last edited by Hanomaly; Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:24pm

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!HotCakeX Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:27pm

Originally posted by Hanomaly:
Originally posted by HotCakeX:
for the 1000th time, adult games are fine and I'm glad they are on Steam store, with or without age verification is not my concern . I'm saying that if they are allowed then users should be allowed to take screenshots of such games and post them on Steam community too.
Is the Steam Community and/or your Artwork/Screenshot section behind an age gate?

If the answer is yes, then sure your point makes sense. If we can age gate our Artwork/Screenshots, than adult stuff should be allowed to be posted.

If the answer is no, then it doesn't make sense that you are confused. As obviously the answer must be "behind an age gate, nudity is ok. Not behind an age gate? then not okay."

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Maybe in the future they will add a profile age gate or one for your Artwork, then you can show all the nudity you want on your profile and in your artwork and be happy.

Having blurred effect and asking for confirmation before showing you the screenshot/artwork is a better measure than just choosing a random date on the age gate. you didn't mention them.
age gate = blurred effect + confirmation. it's the same process, the same number of clicks to do the actions.

oh i'm already happy, you worry about your own life.

#43

!HotCakeX Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:30pm

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Originally posted by HotCakeX:

this is strange, Idk why you keep telling me that, I Never said anything about missing age gate on that product!

this is my concern: https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/1735465524722059421/?ctp=3#c1735466157768046130

for the 1000th time, adult games are fine and I'm glad they are on Steam store, with or without age verification is not my concern . I'm saying that if they are allowed then users should be allowed to take screenshots of such games and post them on Steam community too.
I don't see this happening for two reasons.
1. There's no age gate.
2. You can be 13 years old and use Steam as per the SSA.

1. there is the same process of confirmation.
2. you can be 13 years old, close your eyes and choose a random date and it will let you in the store.you can be 13 years old, you can still close your eyes and if lucky you'll click on the "view content" and voila!

#44

Hanomaly Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:30pm

Originally posted by HotCakeX:
Having blurred effect and asking for confirmation before showing you the screenshot/artwork is a better measure than just choosing a random date on the age gate. you didn't mention them.
age gate = blurred effect + confirmation. it's the same process, the same number of clicks to do the actions.

oh i'm already happy, you worry about your own life.

Merely blurred content does not meet the CYA or legal requirement in UK or apparently USA. So sorry legally speaking it is apparently *not* the same thing. Even if you feel in laymans terms it is functionally the same. Legally an age gate/birthday check is the minimum that must be done.

If you do not like this, petition UK and USA law makers.

Last edited by Hanomaly; Sep 25, 2018 @ 10:33pm

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