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Does Denuvo's DRM really affect HDD/SDD drives?
Some games have like a seal-of-approval Denuvo DRM and rumors which I don't try to believe in. That it affects your HDD's performance and issues.

I wanna ask is my Harddrive safe even this game has a DRM on it?
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cinedine Sep 23, 2017 @ 10:44am 
No it does not. Yes it is.
Zukabazuka Sep 23, 2017 @ 2:22pm 
It really depends on the developer who get the DRM and doesn't know how to program it. But there hasn't really been any case of the DRM destroying HDD or SSD
Winged One Sep 23, 2017 @ 2:53pm 
no it does not, many people have run benchmark comparisons


while some DRM have caused issues in the past (the whole StarForce driver issue for example), I advise you to always take "but <insert DRM Here> does this which hurts your machine!" statements with a large helping of salt..

while there are some legitimate concerns in regards to DRM, there is a certain sect of the anti-DRM community who spread a fair share of false rumors to try and trick people into taking an anti-DRM stance.. propeganda basically
raythr Sep 23, 2017 @ 6:18pm 
with denuvo malware on your pc,
the damaged ssd will be the least of your problems
Brujeira Sep 23, 2017 @ 6:35pm 
Originally posted by raythr:
with denuvo malware on your pc,
the damaged ssd will be the least of your problems

Lies. Stop believing any old crap that you read on teh Interwebz. The story that Denuvo breaks hardware has been thoroughly debunked.
Winged One Sep 23, 2017 @ 7:36pm 
Originally posted by raythr:
with denuvo malware on your pc,
the damaged ssd will be the least of your problems
*sigh*, Denuvo is not Malware


howeverm thank you for providing the perfect example of justify my earlier statement:



Originally posted by theseraph1:

while there are some legitimate concerns in regards to DRM, there is a certain sect of the anti-DRM community who spread a fair share of false rumors to try and trick people into taking an anti-DRM stance.. propeganda basically
Satoru Sep 23, 2017 @ 7:53pm 
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/2mtxub/denuvo_drm_does_not_destroy_or_damage_ssds_proof/

No



No

Crashed Sep 23, 2017 @ 9:32pm 
Originally posted by raythr:
with denuvo malware on your pc,
the damaged ssd will be the least of your problems
User is involved in websites that if shared would get them banned permanently; those sites started spreading misinformation while Denuvo was unbreakable, so as to destroy the reputation of the publishers that use it.

These claims constitute libel, and if Denuvo felt like it they could sue those spreading these rumors.

I have put 36 hours into a Denuvo-encrypted game Sonic Mania, a game with toaster-level specs, and disk usage is practically zero during play.
Last edited by Crashed; Sep 23, 2017 @ 9:33pm
76561198001062896 Sep 23, 2017 @ 9:38pm 
Originally posted by __:
Originally posted by raythr:
with denuvo malware on your pc,
the damaged ssd will be the least of your problems
User is involved in websites that if shared would get them banned permanently; those sites started spreading misinformation while Denuvo was unbreakable, so as to destroy the reputation of the publishers that use it.

These claims constitute libel, and if Denuvo felt like it they could sue those spreading these rumors.

I have put 36 hours into a Denuvo-encrypted game Sonic Mania, a game with toaster-level specs, and disk usage is practically zero during play.


the irony really when you think about it


i mean im not a fan of additional drm layers myself but lets just not claim BS facts and play the conspiracy theorists about Denuvo either
Last edited by Zetikla; Sep 23, 2017 @ 9:39pm
Crashed Sep 23, 2017 @ 9:39pm 
Please explain.
Reported. Sep 23, 2017 @ 11:23pm 
Denuvo doesnt thrash harddrives, it thrashes RAM instead.
Crashed Sep 23, 2017 @ 11:34pm 
Originally posted by mudlord:
Denuvo doesnt thrash harddrives, it thrashes RAM instead.
Also unproven; ask Kaldaien who probably has more knowledge of how Denuvo operates than many who break the law.
The End Sep 24, 2017 @ 3:26am 
Originally posted by mudlord:
Denuvo doesnt thrash harddrives, it thrashes RAM instead.

Not correct, do not believe all the lies about Denuvo.
Denuvo only scares those with low to no knowledge about how to see through all the trash the conspiracy-looneys is spreading.
Last edited by The End; Sep 24, 2017 @ 3:31am
Start_Running Sep 24, 2017 @ 3:39am 
How do you thrash ram?
HDD's thrash because they head and arm have to move all over the place to cpmplete various read and write operations. RAM eis always moving data around internally so... yea... how to you thrash something like that?
Aemony Sep 24, 2017 @ 5:43am 
Denuvo reads a ~5 KB file on launch that contains the key for that game. Said file resides under \Steam\userdata\<Steam-ID>\<Game-ID>\ and is named with just a bunch of numbers.

When the key needs to be renewed, Denuvo does a HTTPS transaction around ~2 KB up and down, and then writes the resulting key to that file again.

So no, it doesn't trash SSDs. A user calculated that it would take over a million of years for Denuvo alone to use up all read/write cycles of a modern SSD.

Are you an immortal? No? Okay.
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