Windows 7 Support Ending - Refunding my Entire Library?

[InfernusMatrix]

So let me get this straight, my games that run fine on Windows 7 I can no longer access past a certain point? If this is the case I will be talking to my bank and refunding my entire games library. I have zero interest in upgrading my hardware or Operating system.

Does this not violate consumer or anti-trust laws?

When I started using Steam I never agreed for them to control what hardware and operating system I can use, especially considering all of the games I play support Windows 7.

[TurtleShroom]

Publicado originalmente por Tebpes:

The last time I check this call obstruction of commerce which is felony!

Wrong. Obstruction of commerce means you are LITERALLY blocking the way of goods being bought, sold, traded, or transported. Your physical body, or something you own, or your vehicle (and so on) are actually blocking it.

The only way you could obstruct commerce on the Internet would be to hack the servers, which is not occurring on Valve's end or anyone else's end.

[lx]

i once caused "obstruction of commerce", by riding my bike on the sidewalk. the commercer tried to run me over with his car. when it did not happen, he got pissed and angry and i had to brake the scene, cause he was about to jump on me, to beat me.
i wonder where was the police at that moment. they usually stop me for a check, when they see me. im a very police attractive person, apparently.

sorry for the interruption. go on, with whatever you are doing here.

[Stormborn Apostle]

Yeah, this entire idea is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Preventing me from accessing my own purchases is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. If this goes through, then I'm flatly not using Steam anymore. There are alternative ways to access those games that don't require going through Steam...and that's what they're going to push a lot of people toward.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Stormborn Apostle:

Yeah, this entire idea is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Preventing me from accessing my own purchases is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. If this goes through, then I'm flatly not using Steam anymore. There are alternative ways to access those games that don't require going through Steam...and that's what they're going to push a lot of people toward.

It will go through. They made did the same with WinXP.

[Perrito Perron]

The support drop on windows 7 is dissapointing, valve forget that many users still playing with retro computers, this is not about buy another pc, personally i have a current rig with 10th gen i7 but this deccision is the worst in years!!!!

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por McM4r:

The support drop on windows 7 is dissapointing, valve forget that many users still playing with retro computers, this is not about buy another pc, personally i have a current rig with 10th gen i7 but this deccision is the worst in years!!!!

According to their monthly surveys, Win7 makes up less than 2% of users right above Win8..

[Crashed]

Publicado originalmente por McM4r:

The support drop on windows 7 is dissapointing, valve forget that many users still playing with retro computers, this is not about buy another pc, personally i have a current rig with 10th gen i7 but this deccision is the worst in years!!!!

Worst in exactly 5 years?

[leh2012]

Publicado originalmente por Snazzy:

Publicado originalmente por McM4r:

The support drop on windows 7 is dissapointing, valve forget that many users still playing with retro computers, this is not about buy another pc, personally i have a current rig with 10th gen i7 but this deccision is the worst in years!!!!

Literally nobody uses that outdated piece of software. You're one of the few people that still use it.

I still use it. And I bet there are much more people in the world who still use Win7 than you think!

[TPGamesAU]

I can foresee the future.
Win10 support ends in a few years.
Win11,12,13 - <insert any number here or symbol, they will use>

There is no avoiding this because - 'this is the way'.

Oh woe to Steam.

[Hard Core Rikki]

win7 will be a security nightmare in the future - many important applications and toolkits no longer release any security updates for it, and any missing or outdated system library would have to be shipped by steam.

With win10 as the baseline, containerization for longterm forward compatibility becomes possible but its not possible to make it mainstream on windows 10 due to market forces - only win11 to some extent and linux in particular (where almost everything steam is a flavour of flatpak - no system breakage and even if one game is insecure it doesnt affect the system or other games). Proton/wine internally identify as win10 anyway.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Bugor:

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

It isn't shutting down.

It is not true.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A
"After that date, the Steam Client will no longer run on those versions of Windows."(с)

Ok fair enough if that's the case.

However, this still doesn't get you anywhere closer to any illegal activity, or breach of contract or anything.

So it doesn't go anywhere. The terms agreed to well, you agreed to this.

[Tebpes]

Can't find my last comment. But did do some researcher and Steam would be creating a liability installing software that intentional restrict cause damage or distress through forcing some to buy a new computer to get access to their legal purchase items. https://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/microsoft-draws-flak-for-pushing-windows-10-on-pc-users/ So go head install software that I don't want on my computer that keep me from the legal purchase I bought. The is legal warning! and scent you at see you banning people over pointing this out that windows 7 is still active on your system and they can't afford upgrade you you can be legal liability to pay for this user new computers. From lawsuit that was leveled against Microsoft. yet again Legal warning!

[Ogami]

Publicado originalmente por Tebpes:

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You can scream "legal warning!" till you are blue in the face, you will not stop this.
But please continue to waste your time.

[Chompman]

Publicado originalmente por Tebpes:

Can't find my last comment. But did do some researcher and Steam would be creating a liability installing software that intentional restrict cause damage or distress through forcing some to buy a new computer to get access to their legal purchase items. https://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/microsoft-draws-flak-for-pushing-windows-10-on-pc-users/ So go head install software that I don't want on my computer that keep me from the legal purchase I bought. The is legal warning! and scent you at see you banning people over pointing this out that windows 7 is still active on your system and they can't afford upgrade you you can be legal liability to pay for this user new computers. From lawsuit that was leveled against Microsoft. yet again Legal warning!

There is no reason to build a new computer as you can upgrade to win 10 for free still and any pc that can run win 7 can run win 10.

If this was a legit legal issue then older OS's like win xp would still work and if this was the case so many other companies would be in serious issues for similar reasons and there is a reason this is allowed to happen as you cannot expect a company to support someone else's software forever when they did not make it.

[Tebpes]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Publicado originalmente por Bugor:

It is not true.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A
"After that date, the Steam Client will no longer run on those versions of Windows."(с)

Ok fair enough if that's the case.

However, this still doesn't get you anywhere closer to any illegal activity, or breach of contract or anything.

So it doesn't go anywhere. The terms agreed to well, you agreed to this.

Look up ambiguity Nothing said that I would have spend $3K on new computer in os that I don't like windows 12 sucks trying to follow Apple well end in them going bust.