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obscured 2022 年 9 月 17 日 下午 9:34
ADVISING: STEAM ACHIEVEMENT MANAGER
Dear all steam user,

Please be warn that to those planning to use SAM is not recommended at all as it will ruin your steam account. Let those unachievable achievement stay locked than ruin your own steam account.

I've learned my lesson. Been regret eversince.

Regards,
uhh
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Shillelagh 2022 年 9 月 24 日 下午 5:41 
引用自 DRAVEN AK 47
How it will "ruin" my steam account? By just getting achievements?
Its gonna bugged ur account something like that man. And plus with all that achievement ur pc/laptop arent gonna be okay for handling 5k of an achievement of one game. Idk or maybe its just me.
I fail to see how your steam account having achievements will affect your computers performance.
KalGimpa 2022 年 9 月 24 日 下午 5:50 
引用自 Shillelagh
引用自 DRAVEN AK 47
Its gonna bugged ur account something like that man. And plus with all that achievement ur pc/laptop arent gonna be okay for handling 5k of an achievement of one game. Idk or maybe its just me.
I fail to see how your steam account having achievements will affect your computers performance.


i am thinking that maybe if it was a potatoish computer, unlocking that many might slow it down a bit

just a guess, but it is the only thing i can come up with
Shillelagh 2022 年 9 月 24 日 下午 6:44 
引用自 KalCuey
引用自 Shillelagh
I fail to see how your steam account having achievements will affect your computers performance.


i am thinking that maybe if it was a potatoish computer, unlocking that many might slow it down a bit

just a guess, but it is the only thing i can come up with
Unlocking 5k might lag a bit, I agree, but having 5k achievements really shouldn't cause any slowdown at all
Elucidator 2023 年 1 月 29 日 上午 9:16 
引用自 ——
yeah i learned that lesson a few hours ago, i finished final fantasy 8 and after that i noticed there were no achivement pop up, so used sam to unlock it, did it and now all achivement sistem is unavailable for my account,

You turn on a desk light and suddenly there is a car accident somewhere around the world, so you turn it back off and set it aside.

You think two unrelated things are related and act accordingly. And I know you're going to magically come up with excuses to justify it:

"Yes well, there was a power surge somewhere in the electric grid so that must have caused the car accidents."

Before you can blame something, you need to know how something works.

Also this thread is old.
Mango 2023 年 1 月 29 日 上午 9:18 
the only thing you mess up when using SAM is your trading card drops for the game you used it on
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Sir_Sephy 2023 年 1 月 29 日 上午 10:59 
I was considering of getting SAM for my broken games like Conan Unconquered and Dead Space 3. However I immediately changed my mind after read this. I'd better leave it as unobtainable achievements than being labelled as cheater.
anrkyuk 2023 年 1 月 29 日 上午 11:09 
引用自 Mangö
the only thing you mess up when using SAM is your trading card drops for the game you used it on

Evidence ?
Mango 2023 年 1 月 29 日 上午 11:38 
引用自 anrkyuk
引用自 Mangö
the only thing you mess up when using SAM is your trading card drops for the game you used it on

Evidence ?
well the only ''evidence'' i got is that the games i used SAM on i havent gotten any cards at all for a year and still not getting any
but hey maybe im wrong but sam does mess with the playtime a little and other stuff :BL3Thinking:
cinedine 2023 年 1 月 29 日 上午 11:49 
引用自 ——
yeah i learned that lesson a few hours ago, i finished final fantasy 8 and after that i noticed there were no achivement pop up, so used sam to unlock it, did it and now all achivement sistem is unavailable for my account

Achievements are lazy loaded. If the request to get the data from the server times out, it will not display anything in the library and the showcases on your profile might not display.
That happens regulary and is unlikely to ever get fixed but it has nothing to do with using SAM. You will not be locked out of the system. (Unless there has been a very recent change.)
BJWyler 2023 年 1 月 29 日 下午 12:12 
引用自 anrkyuk
引用自 Mangö
the only thing you mess up when using SAM is your trading card drops for the game you used it on

Evidence ?
There is none. SAM has no effect on card drops. When I was testing the program on another account, and I left a game open through SAM, I got time played and card drops as normal.

So yes, people are still using Steam Achievement Manager (SAM) on a regular basis with no issues or consequences. I, myself, have been researching the program for about a year now, after it was brought to my attention. As a part of this information, we should also review some things we know about achievements in general:

1) Valve has set up a relatively simple and plain system of achievements for games, and allows devs the freedom to add (or not add) achievements to their games.

2) Valve also has in place a system so that devs can make their achievements server based, but it is a feature that sees little to no use in the games I have played and are contained in my library. Again, this is something Valve leaves in the hands of the devs.

3) As such, achievements can be "manipulated" in several ways, in addition to SAM:
-Have a friend or family member help or complete the achievement for you.
-Edit the game files.
-Use someone else's game save file.
-Use a dev console or cheat codes.
-Take advantage of in game mechanics or features to bypass the "normal" route.
-Exploit bugs.
-Mods - either external or from the Steam Workshop
-Steam User Console

That last option is of particular interest as Valve has built into Steam itself a way to trigger or reset achievements, therefore, making it a viable method without consequence.

Also to note in an interview with a Valve employee, the Astats achievement hunting group has provided information that the use of these methods (including SAM) cannot reliably be detected and Valve has no plans on changing the achievement system, therefore relying on game developers to make the choice to use (or not use) the feature, including the option of server side achievements. Therefore, and again considering that Valve included with the Steam Console the ability to manipulate achievements, Valve does not care and will do nothing against anyone who uses any method to manipulate them as they see fit.

As part of my research into SAM, I installed it on a test system with a test Steam Account. As part of my experimentation, I connected to VAC and EAC secured servers with this test system and using my test accounts. The results from my tests, along with the statements of others, including the Valve employee, have brought me to the conclusion that VAC and EAC is not triggered by SAM, and that the program is safe to have installed while playing on secured servers.

As a result of my research and testing, I can conclude that SAM is safe to use (but as with any piece of software, use at your own risk is an axiom), and now therefore will begin using the program myself to complete many achievements that are broken and will not be fixed by devs for several of my games. I have also had a couple of friends also thank me for the information about SAM I have provided them and have told me they will also begin using the program as well. I have asked them to post their results in this thread as well, if desired.
Elucidator 2023 年 1 月 29 日 下午 12:39 
引用自 sir_sephy
I was considering of getting SAM for my broken games like Conan Unconquered and Dead Space 3. However I immediately changed my mind after read this. I'd better leave it as unobtainable achievements than being labelled as cheater.
You'll only cheat if you want to obtain them using the intended means, and decided not to.
There really is no cheat other than that.

SAM uses the SteamAPI to lock or unlock an achievement on Steam. It is a Steam Stat update. It is a single command send to the server. It works the exact same way as when a game does it.
It doesn't break your account (it can't do anything a game cannot do), etc.
SAM falls outside of the game, much like Steam itself. It both doesn't even involve the game and the game is not required to be loaded up.

The program has an open sourcecode, so you can look there on how it works.
Jamebonds1 2023 年 1 月 29 日 下午 2:35 
SAM will be always use it at your own risk, because no employees talked about this software.
引用自 Pr0udCh0sen1
Nobody unlocks all their achievements on steam legit, use xbox or playstation if you care about achievements.
All my perfect games was got by normal play. So don't say no one unlocks their achievements legit. I don't trust sam as it may or may not be a virus so i won't use it at all.
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J 2023 年 1 月 30 日 上午 12:25 
引用自 Pr0udCh0sen1
Nobody unlocks all their achievements on steam legit, use xbox or playstation if you care about achievements.
speak for yourself, not everyone wants to cheat
Aahzmandias 2023 年 1 月 30 日 上午 1:54 
I was being salty coz i low a few dota 2 rank game

Last time I checked you are able to reset your stats with SAM, so that you are able to start with a clean slate.- I used it that way, so I can easily see my character based achivements, starting a new game with a new char.
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