Are you in favor of woke culture?

[Bjorn Ironside]

I am not.

[Howdy Neighbor]

No!

[Doctor Zalgo]

Escrito originalmente por Heretic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwhVyen2CPY

A reasonable view toward the problems that are destroying the industry and the world around us.

I mean, its literally just another person pushing an agenda right?

[TGC> The Games Collector]

No, but most of the self-proclaimed woke progressives tend to be the monsters they claim to fight.

[Fantasma]

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No, but most of the self-proclaimed woke progressives tend to be the monsters they claim to fight.

I've seen almost nobody "self-proclaim" themselves to be "woke" considering almost everyone just uses it as an insult...

[Pscht]

OP couldn't have used a title that says "BLOCK ME" any harder than this. Impressive.

[Heretic]

Escrito originalmente por TGC> The Games Collector:

No, but most of the self-proclaimed woke progressives tend to be the monsters they claim to fight.

The problem for us is that they are doing a lot of damage in the industry. Major game companies going bust because they have lost focus on what they're supposed to be doing. While having no imagination, no innovation and re-skinning everything for a quick buck is bad enough, the overinflated bureaucracy and tick boxes just ends up alienating everyone.

Well, mostly everyone. After all, it's quite bizarre that it has become so bad, but since it isn't enough that some people don't want to discuss it, they can't even handle other people discussing it. It's no wonder even AAA games companies have lost touch with their customers.

[Amaterasu]

Escrito originalmente por Heretic:

Escrito originalmente por TGC> The Games Collector:

No, but most of the self-proclaimed woke progressives tend to be the monsters they claim to fight.

The problem for us is that they are doing a lot of damage in the industry. Major game companies going bust because they have lost focus on what they're supposed to be doing. While having no imagination, no innovation and re-skinning everything for a quick buck is bad enough, the overinflated bureaucracy and tick boxes just ends up alienating everyone.

Well, mostly everyone. After all, it's quite bizarre that it has become so bad, but since it isn't enough that some people don't want to discuss it, they can't even handle other people discussing it. It's no wonder even AAA games companies have lost touch with their customers.

It'd be one thing to say, "Hey, we don't like this" or "This game is poorly made".

But the anti-woke mob doesn't do that, because it ain't about trying to discuss things, nor is it about trying to change minds. It's about the belief that they are right because they are the loudest one in the room and everyone who is tired of listening to the incessant screaming must be part of the other side.

What is destroying gaming is simple for anyone to see on their own. It's in just about every AAA game these days. Rampant, unchecked, extreme monetization of everything publishers can get away with. Hell, Nintendo just patented things that will kill off an entire genre of games outside of pokemon.

People putting non-whites or women or LGBT people in games ain't doing a damn thing to even remotely damage the industry by comparison. But it's profitable for people to claim otherwise, unless the games become successful. At which point the very same people screaming, "Go woke, go broke" towards the game now pretend that they were never once against that game and every single one of their followers will follow suit. It's the textbook definition of a grift.

[xTAMIM]

Please guys I need help I purchased the new fifa game ultimate and they cut the money from my card but in steam it’s still on pending any help?

[hazydistance]

Seeing as "wokeness" has largely taken over the narrative arts, the immediate question becomes: Is storytelling now better than it's been in the past?

For my money, that's a pretty obvious No. Which goes to show that the apathetic consumer stance that just seeks to escape any dissonance by vilifying the non-corporate opinion as "cultural warriors" is tragically short-sighted. It just leads to ever lower quality products to consume apathetically.

[Amaterasu]

Escrito originalmente por hazydistance:

Seeing as "wokeness" has largely taken over the narrative arts, the immediate question becomes: Is storytelling now better than it's been in the past?

For my money, that's a pretty obvious No. Which goes to show that the apathetic consumer stance that just seeks to escape any dissonance by vilifying the non-corporate opinion as "cultural warriors" is tragically short-sighted. It just leads to ever lower quality products to consume apathetically.

"If you're not with me, you're with my enemy!"

Ironic that y'all do the same thing y'all accuse them of doing. But I guess it's only okay when your side does it?

[Thermal Lance]

Woke this, woke that. Woke in my dreams, woke in my cereals. Woke everywhere!

[The nameless Gamer]

"Woke" is nothing but a ragebaiting dog-whistle blown by people who have a need to be outraged over something.

[Nikonos]

It's neither culture nor war. Just word salad.

[hazydistance]

Escrito originalmente por Amaterasu:

Ironic that y'all do the same thing y'all accuse them of doing. But I guess it's only okay when your side does it?

It's not really ironic, it's just antagonistic mirroring. And yes, it's OK when the side that is only defending against attack is doing it.

[crunchyfrog]

I am in favour of general empathy and what the right terms as woke (when anyone can actually define it which is rare) is general empathy.

The right LOVES to create bogeymen and thrust everything they don't like under that banner, and woke is a great one for them, because they can push their bigtory against gay people, transgender people, the usual racism and sundry other prejudices in there and claim it "woke".

The reality is of course completely different.

They claim there's an agenda being pushed but that's not true at all.

Science has for example, known about the existence of gender dysphoria for about 100 years. It's pretty well documented as well as problems and issues with sex too. People born with more than one set of genitals have always been a thing. Cultures that have three genders, or none (or rather one) is also a thing.

And if we talk about being gay or "gender bending" (that term comes from the 1980s especially), then you only have to look at popular culture for DECADES.

David Bowir - go look at the "Man who sold the world" original album cover. It caused a scandal in the US at the time. Go look at why Queen were banned from being played on MTV for "I want to break free". Go look up Boy George and Culture Club.

Go look up Tom Robinson Band. And more.

Because the term woke is another false bogeyman from the right and is easily debunked by merely looking outside your borders.