steam has like no demos

[Winblows]

first off this isnt a suggestion its just a discussion of there never being demos on steam and maybe pc, like console systems get demos of the same games on steam but steam never has any of those demos, which sucks because you cant really demo games with out abusing the refund policy. thing in general demos are becoming less common but steam compared to console has like way less unless you count really bad indie games, not to say indie games are bad just most demos are bad indie games, and theres like no demos from AAA games

I have no idea why its like this when it dosnt really sound like theres any reason to, games are all ready just mostly the whole game so if people were going tohack the game or what ever to kinda unlock the game they could do it on both platforms, but I guess its more likely it could be done on pc I guess, not like people arnt going to just wait for a crack of them game or for it to be dumped on console

this is like one of the down sides of using steam and sucks because I cant try out games im not sure of or might have not considered buying

[Tito Shivan]

Crazy Tiger a écrit :

Back in the 90s demos had an actual purpose, namely being a marketing tool.

We really need to take out this notion (only God knows where it came from) that game demos are something devs offered out of their kindness.

Demos were a marketing tactic. A tool made with the sole intention of making money.
They were a form of advertising. In a time where internet was still barebones and commercial software was still taking baby steps.

Demos no longer serve that advertisement in the actual industry paradigm. In fact it is a detriment for many games nowadays. And that's why many devs don't make the investment (because demos do cost money) in building one for their games and spend that money in other marketing venues.

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ragefifty50 a écrit :

with steam having over 50k of games... thats like over 10% have demos...

just wondering... how many of these newly found 6511 demo's will the OP be playing...

can you read the gross majority of those demos are dumpster fire indie game demos, and not 1 good indie games and 2 AAA game demos

also learn what figurative speech is ffs

ok

so figuratively... what percentage of the good demo's are you gonna play....

how many demos have you played already.... how many good ones are left...

i remember when i used to play demos... not very good for sales...
i was like... thats enough of that...thanks.. cya. lol

these days... i watch youtubes and see
what other players are saying before i buy into a game

and just above 10% is not a lot for demo chasers to play
especially when they are dumpster fire indie demos... shucks...

[Lunacy]

More games do need to make a demo for their games. Lets people know if they'll like it and make a safer purchase. Most games we gotta go in blind and hope we enjoy it.
Youtube reviews can only do so much because they're so general and subjective.

[JVC]

Demos are a money sink. They made sense back in the 1990s when we had absolutely rubbish internet that cost an arm and a leg to use. If you wanted to know what was going on in the gaming world, you bought a video game magazine and there would be a cd rom included with a bunch of small demos.

Or you could read a review of an upcoming game. If it was among the five or six games covered in that issue. Otherwise, tough luck.

Anyone can get way better information now watching 30 minutes of a youtube playthrough. For free.

[Lithurge]

I'm still curious about all these console demos you mention, from what I can see there aren't that many and even less AAA games giving them. Many that do also have or had demos available on Steam.

https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/all-ps5-and-ps4-game-trials-and-demos

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/store/game-demos/games/xbox?s=store&skipitems=0

As for the game trials mentioned on the PS link, Steam has trialled that capability, I can only recall one indie game using it though and have no idea if it's a dropped feature.

In my experience demos have had a resurgence compared to recent years, partly in thanks to Steams events pushing them, but it's highly unlikely we'll ever see them become the norm.

[crunchyfrog]

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Damp Wizard Sleeve a écrit :

What does that have to do with Steam? Developers of the games are the ones who have to create a demo to offer. Valve can't make demos for things they didn't develop.

its still relevant to steam and its quality even if it isnt valves fault, also steam can try interersting companys in making demos on steam

It really doesn't work like that.

Steam is a STORE. They merely sell games for people. They do not own them, or the rights to them.

They CANNOT dictate terms like this.

It's entirely down to the devs and publishers to do what they wish, and they might have solid data that shows demos just aren't worth it.

[crunchyfrog]

Lithurge a écrit :

I'm still curious about all these console demos you mention, from what I can see there aren't that many and even less AAA games giving them. Many that do also have or had demos available on Steam.

https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/all-ps5-and-ps4-game-trials-and-demos

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/store/game-demos/games/xbox?s=store&skipitems=0

As for the game trials mentioned on the PS link, Steam has trialled that capability, I can only recall one indie game using it though and have no idea if it's a dropped feature.

In my experience demos have had a resurgence compared to recent years, partly in thanks to Steams events pushing them, but it's highly unlikely we'll ever see them become the norm.

From my experience (I play ALL platforms pretty equally) - thre are the same amount of demos on PSN and XBL as on here. Of course that might be a little obfuscated because there are a SHEDLOAD more games on here, but if you cut out the games that aren't triple A, it becomes much the same.

[Halo]

Skrif a écrit :

also steam can try interersting companys in making demos on steam

I very much doubt Valve does anything proactive to do with Steam, it runs itself and they have proven for a decade they have no interest in innovation or improving very much.

To balance that statement - outside of garden shed hobbyist things that for the mainstream are of zero interest.

That was all well and good when the only other competition was Humble Bundle, 6 years later they have lost a lot of ground to Epic and Fanatical - and even Humble Bundle which has had some good bundles recently after years of drought.

Personally they are solely a library to me, Epic are giving away another 15 games in the next 2 weeks and I buy from Fanatical, Green Man or Humble before I ever get to Steam.

TLDR - your expectations of Steam are too high, other than a library I don't care about what missing 'extras' there are and haven't done for 5+ years, Valve is a slumbering giant.

[kitt]

https://steamhunters.com/apps?removed=false&type=demo
https://steamhunters.com/apps?removed=false&q=prologue&sort=releasedate
https://steamhunters.com/apps?removed=false&sort=releasedate&q=playtest





yep no Demos or the evolved term of Demos (aka Prologues/Playtests) anywhere to be found

[Winblows]

kitt a écrit :

https://steamhunters.com/apps?removed=false&type=demo
https://steamhunters.com/apps?removed=false&q=prologue&sort=releasedate
https://steamhunters.com/apps?removed=false&sort=releasedate&q=playtest

:lunar2019laughingpig:



yep no Demos or the evolved term of Demos (aka Prologues/Playtests) anywhere to be found

i never said it has no demos I said it lacks demos that arnt dumpster fire indie game demos

[nullable]

Skrif a écrit :

i never said it has no demos I said it lacks demos that arnt dumpster fire indie game demos

You complain there aren't demos. But there are. So you move the goalposts and complain that there are no demos for games you care about. Well isn't a shame that none of the developers you like share your beliefs and values? So you think Valve should do something to make them care... whatever it is, most developers will now be interested in making demos? Or just the developers for the games you care about?

Valve isn't gaming's mom you know. Developers know what demos are. They're not holding out for a sweet incentive from Valve to start making them.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

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kitt a écrit :

https://steamhunters.com/apps?removed=false&type=demo
https://steamhunters.com/apps?removed=false&q=prologue&sort=releasedate
https://steamhunters.com/apps?removed=false&sort=releasedate&q=playtest





yep no Demos or the evolved term of Demos (aka Prologues/Playtests) anywhere to be found

i never said it has no demos I said it lacks demos that arnt dumpster fire indie game demos

Nice moving the goal post. Your OP EXPLICITLY states "steam has like no demos". Being shown evidence of a host of demos that you ignore because you don't like them does not negate that fact that plenty of demos exist.

[Mad Scientist]

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Mr. Gentlebot a écrit :

There's plenty of good games with demos, they dont have to be AAA or to your liking. I doubt you went through that entire filter or actually took a really good look at the list. Even next-fest had really promising games.

Why are you complaining anyway? Loads of demos, Devs can choose to make one or not. You're not going to get everything you want in life. Find a demo or dont, buy or don't. Move on.

there a few good games with demos and id like to play demos for AAA games that cost an your being arumentive and antaginistic for no reason, actually just stop talking, you are not contributing to the discussion or doing anything

Looks like I hit a soft spot.
How am I being argumentative and antagonistic? Grow up. Hint: I'm not. You just don't like people pointing out that your OP is flawed, these exist, and they exist for numerous games from AAA to low quality indies. It has all of them, including Free to Play periods of time for AAA games.

If this is the attitude you're going to take, do not make a discussion post if you're not up for a discussion. What are you contributing? We showed the flaws in the OP, we told you what there is; that's called contributing information which is contrary to your personal beliefs.

Again, if you're not up for a discussion, don't make posts in the discussions forums.