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MxFluxTTV 2024 年 3 月 8 日 下午 6:01
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There is NO point in Playing FPS games anymore. Cheaters has taken over.
What is the point in playing FPS games anymore? Or PVP at all? When the majority of players are cheating? This has become a HUGE F problem in almost every game now, and the devs in most games wont do anything as they make more $ from cheaters, than they are probably making on selling the games, or the in-game content they are selling?. I have been playing FPS games since CS 1.1, which came out in 1999. There was never cheating in the games back then.. actually, there was not even noticable cheating in CS before 1.6, and still, there was minimal cheaters as they got banned instantly if they even tried. Now, since CSGO and cs2.. Cheaters seems to be everywhere, and same with PUBG... played PUBG when that came out, and there was never cheaters back then, now they are everywhere... so.. WHAT GAME CAN I PLAY WHERE I DONT GET HARRASSED BY LOOSERS THAT SHOULD FIND A DIFFERENT HOBBY? as they clearly should not be wasting their time in gaming?.
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Piston Smashed™ 2024 年 3 月 9 日 下午 12:41 
引用自 ❟❛❟Ace❟❛❟
I have been playing FPS games since CS 1.1, which came out in 1999. There was never cheating in the games back then.. actually, there was not even noticable cheating in CS before 1.6, and still, there was minimal cheaters as they got banned instantly if they even tried.

I've played CS since Beta 4.1 and there have been plenty of cheaters before CS 1.6. It was dealt with by admins of dedicated servers which kept their servers clean from cheats by being called to the servers when someone was accused of cheating. I know this because I was admin on UK2 servers 150/200 CS servers) and I banned plenty of cheats in my day, more than most folks think they've seen. This is why you didn't notice cheaters as much because you were just enjoying your game and others were dealing with them in the background.

Not everyone is a cheater though and I've also been called to a server many many times only to find a player is just playing better than others who didn't like having their botty spanked.

Everything changed when we lost dedicated servers and went matchmaking, cheaters were no longer banned from a server right away by admins and instead get banned in waves so it does seem like cheats may not being dealt with but Vac does get them in the end if someone is cheating. Is it perfect? Nope but it's what we have and it isn't going to change, were not going back to dedicated servers and admins, sadly.
MxFluxTTV 2024 年 3 月 29 日 下午 2:34 
引用自 Piston Smashed™
引用自 ❟❛❟Ace❟❛❟
I have been playing FPS games since CS 1.1, which came out in 1999. There was never cheating in the games back then.. actually, there was not even noticable cheating in CS before 1.6, and still, there was minimal cheaters as they got banned instantly if they even tried.

I've played CS since Beta 4.1 and there have been plenty of cheaters before CS 1.6. It was dealt with by admins of dedicated servers which kept their servers clean from cheats by being called to the servers when someone was accused of cheating. I know this because I was admin on UK2 servers 150/200 CS servers) and I banned plenty of cheats in my day, more than most folks think they've seen. This is why you didn't notice cheaters as much because you were just enjoying your game and others were dealing with them in the background.

Not everyone is a cheater though and I've also been called to a server many many times only to find a player is just playing better than others who didn't like having their botty spanked.

Everything changed when we lost dedicated servers and went matchmaking, cheaters were no longer banned from a server right away by admins and instead get banned in waves so it does seem like cheats may not being dealt with but Vac does get them in the end if someone is cheating. Is it perfect? Nope but it's what we have and it isn't going to change, were not going back to dedicated servers and admins, sadly.

You are right, there was cheaters back then. But they got caught, and they got banned. Now there are the same amount of cheaters as legit players.. They dont get caught, and they dont get punished. Thats why CS is in the state it is in now. Just Facts.
Kargor 2024 年 3 月 29 日 下午 2:38 
If you want to play multiplayer games, get yourself a console.

There might be a cheater or two there as well, but it's much much much easier to fight them there: consoles are generally "locked down", so you can't just download and run whatever software you want. And, they can just ban the console, which is actually expensive to replace.
Piston Smashed™ 2024 年 3 月 29 日 下午 2:42 
引用自 Piston Smashed™

I've played CS since Beta 4.1 and there have been plenty of cheaters before CS 1.6. It was dealt with by admins of dedicated servers which kept their servers clean from cheats by being called to the servers when someone was accused of cheating. I know this because I was admin on UK2 servers 150/200 CS servers) and I banned plenty of cheats in my day, more than most folks think they've seen. This is why you didn't notice cheaters as much because you were just enjoying your game and others were dealing with them in the background.

Not everyone is a cheater though and I've also been called to a server many many times only to find a player is just playing better than others who didn't like having their botty spanked.

Everything changed when we lost dedicated servers and went matchmaking, cheaters were no longer banned from a server right away by admins and instead get banned in waves so it does seem like cheats may not being dealt with but Vac does get them in the end if someone is cheating. Is it perfect? Nope but it's what we have and it isn't going to change, were not going back to dedicated servers and admins, sadly.

You are right, there was cheaters back then. But they got caught, and they got banned. Now there are the same amount of cheaters as legit players.. They dont get caught, and they dont get punished. Thats why CS is in the state it is in now. Just Facts.

You might want to go and check out the VAC Discussion and tell those people who are complaining about being banned that they are idiots because cheats don't get caught or punished and it is all in their heads...

Facts are that cheats are banned all the time, they have been since day one of Steam. You saying they are not being banned is NOT fact but your opinion.
Spawn of Totoro 2024 年 3 月 29 日 下午 2:46 
I wouldn't base the idea around a single game, especially CS.

Cheating has become a big business, unlike in the past, so it will always be harder to keep up with the fight against latest trends in cheats. All Anti-Cheats have ever been, is playing catch-up. All Anti-Cheat makers have a hard time, especially when a game becomes super popular.

Personally, I see the trend of PvP, and competitive games in general, dying off (though not going to die). They are being replaced with co-op games, more then anything. Even PvPvE games have are out outpacing them.

Is it the death of FPS games? No as there are many other ways to play that genre.

Is PvP dying? No, but it is slowing and may enter hibernation at some point, until the trend circles back one day.
最后由 Spawn of Totoro 编辑于; 2024 年 3 月 29 日 下午 2:46
[FOAD]Iron 2024 年 3 月 29 日 下午 5:49 
Back in the day, most accusations of 'cheating' were by jealous, clueless, skill-less newbie scum.
[FOAD]Iron 2024 年 3 月 29 日 下午 5:50 
引用自 nullable
I have to laugh at the claims of no cheaters in CS back in 1999-2001. You're lying or have rose tinted glasses, people were always complaining about cheaters. And you could see how many people would cheat when the infamous speed hack plagued HL engined games for several days when most users were still running win 9x
(The hack didn't work on NT systems)

Yes but most of those people were clueless newbie scum.
TWPanda77 2024 年 3 月 29 日 下午 7:10 
Thankfully single player is still a thing! Online cheaters are lacking mentally and physically.
TUNG TUNG TUNG SAHUR 2024 年 3 月 29 日 下午 7:12 
Unfortunately, there seems to be so effort made from valve for a functioning anti-cheat
crunchyfrog 2024 年 3 月 29 日 下午 8:17 
Learn to find decent servers. This is a common trick you must learn.

Doesn't matter whether cheating or anything else. Many of us learned quickly that you are better off when you find servers and people that accommodate what you like. It's not rocket science.

If the game doesn't have that abaility, avoid it. Find one that does. There's plenty out there.

I recommend doing this.

Get whatever game you wish to use and play it at various times of the day. I always prefer to go for 10pm or later but there are other times if you can't muster that.

You can find times when things are more suited to playing with people either your age or with your same sensibilities. Then you also find the right servers as these two things often coalesce.

Servers which might either be private or might be well moderated.

It's down to YOU to do a bit of due diligence. It's no different to scoping out a game before you buy.
Lystent 2024 年 4 月 1 日 下午 2:18 
Best way to I know of to avoid getting griefed by cheaters is to avoid playing with "randos". This includes avoiding games that force you to play with "randos". They can have their hacked hellscape, as far as I care, when me and my friends are chilling elsewhere.

Reminds me how Red Dead Online turned out. Unlike GTAO, you couldn't play with just your friends in a private session; you instead had no choice but to be with the "tryhards" and hackers who try their best to make your experience about them and nothing else. GTAO has the same sort of people going around, AFAIK. The difference is, however, GTAO has private sessions, whilst RDO has been abandoned.
76561198407601200 2024 年 4 月 1 日 下午 2:21 
引用自 MxFlux-TTV
What is the point in playing FPS games anymore? Or PVP at all? When the majority of players are cheating? This has become a HUGE F problem in almost every game now, and the devs in most games wont do anything as they make more $ from cheaters, than they are probably making on selling the games, or the in-game content they are selling?. I have been playing FPS games since CS 1.1, which came out in 1999. There was never cheating in the games back then.. actually, there was not even noticable cheating in CS before 1.6, and still, there was minimal cheaters as they got banned instantly if they even tried. Now, since CSGO and cs2.. Cheaters seems to be everywhere, and same with PUBG... played PUBG when that came out, and there was never cheaters back then, now they are everywhere... so.. WHAT GAME CAN I PLAY WHERE I DONT GET HARRASSED BY LOOSERS THAT SHOULD FIND A DIFFERENT HOBBY? as they clearly should not be wasting their time in gaming?.
If you are playing only fps games then venture to other genres.
Gökyüzü 2024 年 4 月 1 日 下午 6:10 
引用自 Pheex
people barely play to have fun anymore it feels like.

This here is a great example. Since Esport started to rise competitive online game's started to get boring and frustrating. Because every young kid who plays game's trying to get better at some game and dream of being a pro player. This kind of players more than %80 of the player base in allmost all competitive game's. There are some who's acualy skilled and there are some who cant get good no matter how hard they try.

When you acualy study a bit to understand what you are doing wrong you realize they are not even game anymore. You memorize every part of the map every good spot, you constantly comunicate with your team mates, you train your aim and game's mechanics only to rank up so you can do exac same things over and over again.
WraithTargundaMajarie 2024 年 4 月 1 日 下午 10:57 
引用自 GMH Greeny
Offline shooter games.




Actually, there are Consoles...

Then there is this:

As The One Who Stated Above??

There Is Always Offline Mode...

Again, The Thing With Consoles Is??

90% of my Games Are Disc Base,
& Majority Of Them Are Single Player,
& Don't Require Internet At All...

That doesn't mean I don't have Online Access,
But My Console Won't Have Problems Should
The Industry Attack The Console Generation Next, ~_~

That does not mean other People are in the same position,
but I don't know, I can only say that this wasn't something
that I had on my mind on the PS3 Generation as many
other People also felt, so it just happened out of the blue in my favor...
JohnBoyz 2024 年 4 月 25 日 下午 6:10 
I agree fps games are dying as they should because dev's wont band cheaters, they don't care because you keep playing... pity because that's all I play. too...practiced for years on getting better at aiming, building and investing in the best setup possible just to be steam rolled by hackers... It's time for players that don't cheat to boycott these games.... I guarantee you the anticheats will be at an all time high... no more free to play... if you try to cheat band for life. Most regular players don't cheat but they wont be in your lobbies....if you are good at fps games....most of the time only the good players mixed with hackers will be playing against you.
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