Epic Games showed Steam up.

[Mu'Ammar of Carthus]

As little as I care for that crummy store, Alan Wake 2 is one of the best games I've ever played and it's not on Steam. Might even never be on Steam.

Steam is a great storefront and all, and it feels like home to me.
But they have more than the means of funding games like these and they don't.

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

i think epic is costing devs and publishers game sales...

there are people that will wait for the steam releases and i think the wait might
lead to disinterest when it does arrive.... you can only be abused so much...

and lets be clear...
its the devs/pubs that are abusing the customer.. not epic...

i could be wrong.. but right now i am yawning at those that sell out
to epic exclusivity.... its easy to lose interest in games more
and more these days..

i am sure the game makers would do better if they put their
games on all sites... but hey... good on epic for paying bills..

[Kargor]

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Oh no! Steam is bad since doesn't buy exclusivity rights! All hail EGS! The company that says gamers should have options, to instead take away those options since can't keep a stable playerbase so has to buy one!

Actually, that's not how it works here.

Valve doesn't sell ANY of their games ANYWHERE other than the Steam store. Not only can you not buy a Valve game on Epic -- you can't even buy a key for a Valve game anywhere.

Epic does the same -- they are the publisher of that game. They didn't buy exclusivity; they are the actual publisher.

[D3AD]

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A 100% completion run of Alan Wake 2 will take you around 25 to 30 hours.


ya not worth it.


ill grab it when its part of a cheap humble bundle package

How is 25 to 30 hours not worth it? 10 years ago you would buy a single player game that would last 8 to 10 hours. This is why I cringe when people say £60 is too much and you get way less playtime then when games used to cost £40. The average single player game lasts so much longer now compared to years ago.

never had a i payed for a game in the 90s with less than hundreds of hours... diablo... ultima seriers.... ultima online... NEW age games have less and less plaaytime while being exclusive and high cost... just no. you're crazy to say mos games last longer... most games no dont even include stroy modes as the new average is to SPOON feed content you use to get for freeo n base

[D3AD]

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never had a i payed for a game in the 90s with less than hundreds of hours... diablo... ultima seriers.... ultima online... NEW age games have less and less plaaytime while being exclusive and high cost... just no

I have played more games than you I bet 100%, I could look at all my Xbox 360 games that cost £40. Single player games that would last 8-10 hours and I could compare them to today's games and that last way more hours.

i own more games than you on steam alone so really doubt this tbh. and i can show you hundreds of games that barely have any story content just this past year..... COD even is steeping away from delivering quality story content anymore... MOST games dropped doing single player content to push more online service based games. RPGS in the 90s were released with 3x more content than any game released in the past 3 years... unless you like your content being dragged for 3 years and 5x the cost of the orginial game... GAME QUALITY has gone down the past gens... arugeing that is childish and shows you know nothing of gaming norms since ea...


lets put it this way...
classic cod stories could last 15-20 hours



you can breeze the new story in less than 5-10

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

There's also nothing written in stone that says that Alan Wake Remastered or Alan Wake 2 will never be on Steam.

[Pierce Dalton]

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I have played more games than you I bet 100%, I could look at all my Xbox 360 games that cost £40. Single player games that would last 8-10 hours and I could compare them to today's games and that last way more hours.

lets put it this way...
classic cod stories could last 15-20 hours

What? If you play on the hardest difficulty, yeah maybe.

[potato]

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lets put it this way...
classic cod stories could last 15-20 hours

https://howlongtobeat.com/game/1464

hm?

[Crazy Tiger]

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never had a i payed for a game in the 90s with less than hundreds of hours... diablo... ultima seriers.... ultima online... NEW age games have less and less plaaytime while being exclusive and high cost... just no. you're crazy to say mos games last longer... most games no dont even include stroy modes as the new average is to SPOON feed content you use to get for freeo n base

You seem to be forgetting all the short and linear games from the 90s. You also seem to be forgetting the games nowadays that aren't the "spoon feed content" type.

Not sure why you have such limited views on both older and newer times, but it's not representative of either.

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lets put it this way...
classic cod stories could last 15-20 hours

You have to be trolling, now it's been a long long time and my memory is blurry but I swear I used to complete those campaigns in about 8 hours.

I finished World at War in 5 hours. The Modern Warfare games were hadrly 8 hours or so indeed.

[D3AD]

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lets put it this way...
classic cod stories could last 15-20 hours

You have to be trolling, now it's been a long long time and my memory is blurry but I swear I used to complete those campaigns in about 8 hours.

campaigns werent the only part of the content released.. between the spec op modes.story/ zombie modes. most content was over 20 hours to complete it all... story was barely 8 hours. MOST games barely give you ALL THE CONTENT at first hand anymore

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

612 hours in borderlands 2 for $8.56aus is pretty good value..

[Kargor]

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There's also nothing written in stone that says that Alan Wake Remastered or Alan Wake 2 will never be on Steam.

Well, yeah... but they are both published by Epic Games, so if I actually wanted these games, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to appear on Steam: Epic Games putting their own stuff on Steam would basically tell the world that their store isn't quite up to snuff.

[76561199559798421]

i don't always buy pc games online, but when i do , i buy them at the cheapest place with the best sales event. most likely it would be epic games, because at least on epic games you don't have to worry about being banned for making a comment about how the game you bought was no good, also epic games is happy to refund you without making excuses or trying to punish you for it.

i contribute epic games success to the fact they gave free games to users, who felt obligated to buy from them, i felt the same obligations simply because they handed me a few free titles over the years.

while steams success was simply being the only on in the market back in 2003 however you can tell that the meta of online games is shifting and people are becoming more consumer savory

i have never purchased from steam or epic in the past, but with all of the issues i see happening on steam forums i am leery to put any type of payment information into steams system. maybe your ok with it i don't trust the people on steam and there is some high rate of fraud. user who fall for scams are left uncared about by steam there is potential that user information is stolen when accounts get scammed.

this is just my honest opinion about it, i use both steam and epic, while i have a good number of free games on steam, i have a larger number of free games on epic that would of cost me real money to get them on steam.

customers are free to opinions about steam or epic, this opinion is mine , including my personal declarations.

[Start_Running]

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never had a i payed for a game in the 90s with less than hundreds of hours... diablo... ultima seriers.... ultima online... NEW age games have less and less plaaytime while being exclusive and high cost... just no. you're crazy to say mos games last longer... most games no dont even include stroy modes as the new average is to SPOON feed content you use to get for freeo n base

You seem to be forgetting all the short and linear games from the 90s. You also seem to be forgetting the games nowadays that aren't the "spoon feed content" type.

Not sure why you have such limited views on both older and newer times, but it's not representative of either.

when awareness is dictated by mags and jornos it's basuically like wearing blinders.

As for the OP. Well if you're a fan of the Alan Wake games well then mor epower to yah. But for those of us who did not care for Alan Wake....yeah not having the sequel is no big loss. It'll likely be on steam at somepoint. Epic doesn't have the cash to lock down lifetime exclusivity anymore.

[cinedine]

Hey, Steam bought the up and coming studio Campo Santo of Firewatch fame.
And put them to work on the smash hit Dota Underlords.

And they didn't shy away from hiring Richard Garfield, the man behind Magic: The Gathering to develop the renowned success Artifact.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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Hey, Steam bought the up and coming studio Campo Santo of Firewatch fame.
And put them to work on the smash hit Dota Underlords.

And they didn't shy away from hiring Richard Garfield, the man behind Magic: The Gathering to develop the renowned success Artifact.

Both of which are original IPs and not sequels to and established IP.