Gotham Knights latest update installs epic online services without your permission.. on steam...

[Ved]

we need news outlet to cover this.

[Chika Ogiue]

Oh, the horror.

[Ved]

Originally posted by Chika Ogiue:

Oh, the horror.

Is this even legal?

[wuddih]

9. Changes to Agreement and Game
WB Games may update this Agreement at its sole discretion, and you agree to the revised version of the EULA by continuing to play the Game after receiving such revised EULA.

WB Games may change, modify, suspend, or discontinue any aspect of the Game at any time. You have no interest, monetary or otherwise, in any feature or content contained in the Game.

you agreed to this with the purchase.

[AustrAlien2010]

Its adware.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:

Its adware.

Prove it. With actual proof, not the claims of some blogger or streamer.

Originally posted by Ved:

Is this even legal?

Yes.

[AustrAlien2010]

The proof of the pudding is in the tasting. If the OP claims this, then I suppose its true.
I am not going to buy this game, to see if he tells the truth.

I suppose he tells the truth:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1496790/discussions/

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:

The proof of the pudding is in the tasting.

So you're admitting you have no proof and are just throwing around unsubstantiated claims because you've been gas lit into hating Epic. Good to know.

[Large Tomatoes]

Originally posted by wuddih:

9. Changes to Agreement and Game
WB Games may update this Agreement at its sole discretion, and you agree to the revised version of the EULA by continuing to play the Game after receiving such revised EULA.

WB Games may change, modify, suspend, or discontinue any aspect of the Game at any time. You have no interest, monetary or otherwise, in any feature or content contained in the Game.

you agreed to this with the purchase.

It annoys the hell out of me when people do this.

A greedy, parasitic, soulless corporation changing an agreement cannot be excused even if the user agreed to some T&Cs. Jesus!

I guess you're OK with employers demanding their staff work extra long shifts without warning because the employee's contract said they can.

[Ved]

Originally posted by nodnol:

Originally posted by wuddih:

you agreed to this with the purchase.

It annoys the hell out of me when people do this.

A greedy, parasitic, soulless corporation changing an agreement cannot be excused even if the user agreed to some T&Cs. Jesus!

I guess you're OK with employers demanding their staff work extra long shifts without warning because the employee's contract said they can.

Worst part is it doesn't even ask me to install it just starts installing as soon as i press play.

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:

I suppose he tells the truth:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1496790/discussions/

Still no proof to your claim that a component of EOS is adware.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by nodnol:

I guess you're OK with employers demanding their staff work extra long shifts without warning because the employee's contract said they can.

If people signed such a contract with an employer, then yes it's fine. After all, all parties agreed to the terms and it means people know it can happen.

Perhaps people should stop signing agreements without actually reading them. Or not sign them if they don't like the terms offered. Or if they're so displeased with the agreements they signed, pursue legal options if they think the terms are unfair or against local laws/rules.

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isnt it great how we can all be so easily manipulated...

you want this... agree to this...

or

the fun option...

dont buy and dont play...

[Large Tomatoes]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

If people signed such a contract with an employer, then yes it's fine. After all, all parties agreed to the terms and it means people know it can happen.

Perhaps people should stop signing agreements without actually reading them. Or not sign them if they don't like the terms offered. Or if they're so displeased with the agreements they signed, pursue legal options if they think the terms are unfair or against local laws/rules.

Indeed, we should not work at all because pretty much all employment contracts now have clauses in there which state "any duties that are deemed reasonable for the role or benefit of the company".

As for taking legal action, yeah sure that is a great idea. Me and my pittance of expendable income vs a mega corp with billions in revenue, in a legal system that is pay to win.

Good job defending parasitic corporations though

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by nodnol:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

If people signed such a contract with an employer, then yes it's fine. After all, all parties agreed to the terms and it means people know it can happen.

Perhaps people should stop signing agreements without actually reading them. Or not sign them if they don't like the terms offered. Or if they're so displeased with the agreements they signed, pursue legal options if they think the terms are unfair or against local laws/rules.

Indeed, we should not work at all because pretty much all employment contracts now have clauses in there which state "any duties that are deemed reasonable for the role or benefit of the company".

As for taking legal action, yeah sure that is a great idea. Me and my pittance of expendable income vs a mega corp with billions in revenue, in a legal system that is pay to win.

Good job defending parasitic corporations though

My contract doesn't have such clauses, plus any clauses need to be specified.

If people want things changed, they need to take proper action, yes. Otherwise nothing will change to begin with. Making some rant posts on a forum is the same as doing absolutely nothing, after all. It might shed some frustration, but that's all.

Stating how things are =/= defending. But it's a known around these forums that people have difficulty distinguishing the two, especially when it comes to "stuff I don't like".

[Large Tomatoes]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

My contract doesn't have such clauses, plus any clauses need to be specified.

If people want things changed, they need to take proper action, yes. Otherwise nothing will change to begin with. Making some rant posts on a forum is the same as doing absolutely nothing, after all. It might shed some frustration, but that's all.

What are forums for if not to discuss things? Do you think these forums are just for talking about things you like to talk about, you are free to leave this conversations and go elsewhere, you know this?

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Stating how things are =/= defending. But it's a known around these forums that people have difficulty distinguishing the two, especially when it comes to "stuff I don't like".

Stating how things are in a thread where people are complaining about how things are is not at all useful! People don't have difficulty in distinguishing the difference, it is just that people such as yourself refuse to believe that differing opinions can exist without the other party being wrong.