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End of Life" alert for Windows 7/8/8.1. Steam Client support for these operating systems will end on Jan 1st, 2024 at 10am.
Valve is ending Windows 7/8/8.1 in 8 months, on Jan 1st 2024. Going by the hardware survey that will affect nearly 3 million customers. If you are on those OS, then plan on moving to Windows 10/11 or Linux if you don't mind less compatibility for your games.

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SteamClientBeta/announcements/detail/3684547474477817940
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Автор сообщения: ragefifty50
would you sue to get a computer that runs windows 10... 2% of users get
the crappiest win 10 computers to run old games...

is that solution you want...
To outlaw DRM and other such anti-consumer practices I would but it's worthless as the government loves when they can easily spy on and control the population by partnering with tech companies so it's pointless, ♥♥♥♥♥ too corrupt.
Автор сообщения: Acetyl
Windows is spyware.

and what has that spyware done.... i am surprised your on the internet...

and credit cards and telephone lines
were the first spyware if you want to double and triple up on your paranoia
Автор сообщения: xBCxRangers
Автор сообщения: tyl0413
There are some ways to convert Workshop mods into non-Steam games but it's hit and miss, depends on the game and mod in question so you'll have to look it up.

Warband seems to be available on GOG, funny thing also in the sys requirements notice on the bottom:
Please be advised that Windows 10 operating system will receive frequent hardware driver and software updates following its release; this may affect game compatibility

What a disaster, and with only a matter of months notice. This is dirty business lol.
Windows stopped supporting it years ago and that was your warning notice.
Автор сообщения: ragefifty50
Автор сообщения: Acetyl
Windows is spyware.

and what has that spyware done.... i am surprised your on the internet...

and credit cards and telephone lines
were the first spyware if you want to double and triple up on your paranoia
Everything you just said is very troubling and why things are as bad as they are and only get worse, cause people don't care because it's just normal.
Автор сообщения: Chompman
Автор сообщения: xBCxRangers

What a disaster, and with only a matter of months notice. This is dirty business lol.
Windows stopped supporting it years ago and that was your warning notice.

Did Steam take the games i bought out the store? Many of which cannot be played on the newer systems, even when using an older version? Sincere question being i'm not a techie.

Many of these games, so i hear can't play on Win 10 or 11, yet, the Spring Sale just a few days ago were selling them.

Quite frankly, and i think i'm entitled to my own opinion, i think Steam are thieves. It's certainly not my main platform (consoles are), but a bell went off in my head, that when you purchase a game here, and have an issue, there's no customer service.

You have to go to a gaming forum, led by a moderator likely HS aged, trying to resolve an issue. The problem is, you get trolled, and then banned, and goodbye game.

Again, that's bad business.

And when you have roughly 130 million active users, and tell even 2% of them (by their own "survey"), roughly 2.5 million people to stuff it, and the games they bought go away, that may leave a mark. But we'll see.
Автор сообщения: B l u e b e r r y P o p t a r t
Автор сообщения: ragefifty50

and what has that spyware done.... i am surprised your on the internet...

and credit cards and telephone lines
were the first spyware if you want to double and triple up on your paranoia
Everything you just said is very troubling and why things are as bad as they are and only get worse, cause people don't care because it's just normal.

no... we have been agreeing to ransomware everywhere
with all the contracts we get into.... its started way before computers...


if your troubled you would not be online or use any form
of electronic media and go live on a farm off the grid out in the middle of nowhere..

supermarkets have made us dependant on supermarkets... really..... your trouble now..
In the feedback thread I made, I question valve's decision on the announcement page to tell people that to receive the most recent security updates on their OS they need to migrate to windows 10 or above.
In the feedback post I said that not-just-microsoft has the latest security in their more recent OS.

I mentioned Linux being a major alternative.
Someone started commenting that they wish the Linux advertising would end, because they couldn't get it to work properly, but that wasn't the point of my thread.

I mean besides Linux there is also MacOS.
The point of that thread was that they only put Windows 10 or above down there...

but anyway:

I wanted to talk about alternative options so that you can continue to use Steam and why 'Linux' is mentioned a lot.

First of all the core of the OS is the kernel. Windows NT Kernel for example.

MacOS is based on Unix. MacOS isn't just a kernel though, but like windows, a large list of software.
Linux is also based on Unix. Linux however itself is just the Kernel.

Android and Chrome OS are using Linux's Kernel. (You could call them Linux distros)
Nintendo Switch's OS is also using Linux's Kernel.

SteamOS is a Linux distro
Manjaro is a lInux distro
Mint is a linux distro.

Most things, most systems, including that raspberry pi thing you see every now and then, are all based on Linux.

Its not really that there is linux ads everywhere, its just used a lot. Its also very similar in nature to MacOS and iOS due to their Unix roots.

If you know how to use a phone, you have already been an frequent user of a Linux system.

and so, basically since all other modern OS packages for desktops are frequently using the linux kernel, that is why Linux is mentioned a lot.

and so that is why, 'oh linux' pops up when you think of a windows alternative. Its fleshed out and has many packages of software that support it and can be used to turn the OS into a working desktop that also runs Steam.

There are of course more Operating System kernels you could try to go for, but things become very difficult with those.
OpenBSD has FreeBSD for desktops.
there is also ReactOS, which tries to .. recreate Windows NT Kernel and an old windows desktop.

ReactOS maybe interesting to look into for retro pc likers, but anyway...

You can try ChromeOS, which means your PC becomes a browser, but it can also run Steam.
and yes it is a linux distro (based on gentoo, which is another linux distro).

And a 'linux distro' is an OS software package that includes the linux kernel, basically.
Автор сообщения: xBCxRangers
Okay, so now i'll lose about 100 games. The only games i have on PC w/o Ge Force Now. Great. I'm sorry, but being a console main player, Steam sucks.
So like you can't update system to Windows 10 because??? Note it's free to update to Windows 10, if you're using Windows 7 ~ 8.1 just giving you a heads up.

Автор сообщения: xBCxRangers
Автор сообщения: Crashed
Because you're afraid to update?

I don't need to update, don't use a computer that can't even handle beyond Win 7. The games i have here are PS2 era games, and i play them.

And because i don't want to spend at least a grand on a new computer, i lose everything. I can go on an effin colecovision and still play games. But here, no, all is lost.

Steam has been pushing the envelope for a long time, on many issues, and a nice fat suit would do them good
If your system can barely even handle W7 then this tells me you're using a very old system, or system that wasn't meant to be gaming at all because how low end it is to begin with that barely able to run games if that what you're saying, if so then I understand your issue, and I suggest switch to linux if you want which just heads up Linux is ligher than W7, and maybe look towards saving a bit to get a new PC in the future, or not it up to you really.

Автор сообщения: xBCxRangers
Автор сообщения: tyl0413
Obviously they could but it's not important for them to do so.
Even if everyone quit that's affected by any of their decisions they can take the hit easily.
My recommendation is to buy games from GOG whenever possible as they're free from such bs, I only buy games here that are not available on GOG.

If i rebuy them on GOG, can i still use my Workshop mods, like for M&B Warband?
Nope, unless you can figure out which files to backup, and use with your GoG copy, and hope that Devs didn't give you a different version that is on Steam, as few games devs do that for whatever reason.

Автор сообщения: xBCxRangers
Автор сообщения: Chompman
Windows stopped supporting it years ago and that was your warning notice.

Did Steam take the games i bought out the store? Many of which cannot be played on the newer systems, even when using an older version? Sincere question being i'm not a techie.

Many of these games, so i hear can't play on Win 10 or 11, yet, the Spring Sale just a few days ago were selling them.

Quite frankly, and i think i'm entitled to my own opinion, i think Steam are thieves. It's certainly not my main platform (consoles are), but a bell went off in my head, that when you purchase a game here, and have an issue, there's no customer service.

You have to go to a gaming forum, led by a moderator likely HS aged, trying to resolve an issue. The problem is, you get trolled, and then banned, and goodbye game.

Again, that's bad business.

And when you have roughly 130 million active users, and tell even 2% of them (by their own "survey"), roughly 2.5 million people to stuff it, and the games they bought go away, that may leave a mark. But we'll see.
Whom ever you heard said claim from saying that games on W7 from Steam can't be played on W10 are full of BS, as I debunk A LOT of bad actors with proof, and been doing that since 2018 when people claim same thing saying all games from XP don't work on W10, and I proven them wrong can get it to work, and when I ask for more games they go radio silent on me because they're scared I prove them wrong again, and I'm willing to seek which games can't work on W10, because I also want to know which games are those, and yet came across anyone so far that on Steam.
Отредактировано Dr.Shadowds 🐉; 28 мар. 2023 г. в 18:11
Legacy version NEEDED! Otherwise it's just robbing you off and nothing else.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-7-support-ended-on-january-14-2020-b75d4580-2cc7-895a-2c9c-1466d9a53962
Windows 7 support ended on January 14, 2020

Microsoft made a commitment to provide 10 years of product support for Windows 7 when it was released on October 22, 2009. This 10-year period has now ended, and Microsoft has discontinued Windows 7 support so that we can focus our investment on supporting newer technologies and great new experiences. The specific end of support day for Windows 7 was January 14, 2020. Technical assistance and software updates from Windows Update that help protect your PC are no longer available for the product.
Автор сообщения: pale_horse
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-7-support-ended-on-january-14-2020-b75d4580-2cc7-895a-2c9c-1466d9a53962
Windows 7 support ended on January 14, 2020

Microsoft made a commitment to provide 10 years of product support for Windows 7 when it was released on October 22, 2009. This 10-year period has now ended, and Microsoft has discontinued Windows 7 support so that we can focus our investment on supporting newer technologies and great new experiences. The specific end of support day for Windows 7 was January 14, 2020. Technical assistance and software updates from Windows Update that help protect your PC are no longer available for the product.

Yeah i'm done buying games here. They take away your games. I've personally never seen that in my life, and i'm a geezer at gaming from 1976. You may not be able to play MP if they shut the servers. They may end a live service F2P game.

But this is something that is so bizarre, and so wrong, i can't in good conscience buy anything else here. I'd be throwing my money away. I have to play on consoles. I can still play Intellivision for crying out loud lol

When are they ending Win 10? And so when that goes, my games go with it.

This is nonsense. Just come out with a legacy launcher. This can be 2 million or more people gonna get totally shafted.
I built my computer back in 2010 with a i7-920 (released 2008).
My computer wouldn't be able to handle Windows 10 and I can't simply get a new processor since CPUs aren't made for that socket type anymore.
I'd have to get a new motherboard too which would lead to having to get new compatible RAM as well.
If I had to go through all that, I might as well build a whole new computer, but if I'm to make it last at least another 15 years, I'd have to spend at least $2000 and I can't afford that for several more years.

At least also having GeForce GTX 950, 24GB of RAM, and a 1TB SSD allows me to play indie and older games.

I don't need whatever new features or visual effects Steam has planned, but I do still need to be able to at least play my games and online.
Автор сообщения: Japanimater
I built my computer back in 2010 with a i7-920 (released 2008).
My computer wouldn't be able to handle Windows 10 and I can't simply get a new processor since CPUs aren't made for that socket type anymore.
I'd have to get a new motherboard too which would lead to having to get new compatible RAM as well.
If I had to go through all that, I might as well build a whole new computer, but if I'm to make it last at least another 15 years, I'd have to spend at least $2000 and I can't afford that for several more years.

At least also having GeForce GTX 950, 24GB of RAM, and a 1TB SSD allows me to play indie and older games.

I don't need whatever new features or visual effects Steam has planned, but I do still need to be able to at least play my games and online.
I'd recommend you to look into linux distros.

Money is a huge issue yeah, luckily Linux is free and Open Source.
Steam will work on Linux and if you set up your distro properly (configured it, etc.) then you should be able to play most games.

Also note: There are a few alternative proton forks you can try if it doesn't work on the official. I recommend looking at the Steam for Linux hub and asking there.
Автор сообщения: nullable
Автор сообщения: xBCxRangers

Yeah i'm done buying games here. They take away your games. I've personally never seen that in my life, and i'm a geezer at gaming from 1976. You may not be able to play MP if they shut the servers. They may end a live service F2P game.

But this is something that is so bizarre, and so wrong, i can't in good conscience buy anything else here. I'd be throwing my money away. I have to play on consoles. I can still play Intellivision for crying out loud lol

Been gaming since 1976, apparently have only been aware of the Internet for a week. Because you sure seem gobsmacked about how technology works.

Let me ask you, if Intellivision had internet dependent services way back when, would those still be up and running? Could you still expect use those for crying out loud?

Автор сообщения: xBCxRangers
When are they ending Win 10? And so when that goes, my games go with it.

I mean if you're using the last PC you'll ever own, and are still using it sometime in the 2028-2030 period. Figure MS ends support in 2025. And add 3-5 years for the Win10 userbase to dwindle down enough all sorts of companies start ending support. 62% of Steam's userbase is still using Win10 so I wouldn't worry until that number dips into single digit percentages.

Автор сообщения: xBCxRangers
This is nonsense. Just come out with a legacy launcher. This can be 2 million or more people gonna get totally shafted.

Well why are you even using Steam? Where was your conviction when it came to Windows 98 users in 2007? Or Windows XP users in 2019? Did you think that was the last time an OS would be dropped from support? Did you think Windows 7 was special? Sacred? Or what?

Well i'm not gonna parch every comment and go thru all that, but i don't need a computer. I'm retired, and have about 100 games here on Steam, that i play every so often. I'm a console player mainly.

And on newer games on Steam, i play thru GFN thru my Xbox. And so, you can say, i'm not a PC gamer, but did buy these older games, and enjoy playing them.

I'm not going to buy a new computer to play these older games. And i can't upgrade to Win 10 on this computer.

Yet, i purchased those games, many of them may not even be able to be played on Win 11, even on older versions. I just bought a couple in the Spring Sale.

If Steam knew they were doing this in a matter of months, why did they still sell the games? But i'll tell you this, i'm not buying another one here. GFN could end it, or Steam may end them when Win 10 is no longer supported. You're wasting your money.
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