How do i back out from steam clains

[drbubbles]

i goit an ad, i searched and then created a portal with Zaiger LLC for refund. i did nit know much of it. But now after researching for a while i think its wrong to group againts steam. i have enjoyed alot from the games i bought here. I want to back out. Laso some one please guide me whenther Zaiger LLC is legit or not.

[ReBoot]

See it this way: if that ZaigervLLC is legit, their terms got a clause about how to back out.

If their terms don't have such a clause, not legit.

[Hammer Of Evil]

i hope you didn't sign their documents.

you'll have to sign a statement that you no longer wish to employ their legal services, they should have provided this form to you, when they started the legal relationship to you, and cancellation procedure to withdraw your permission for them to represent you.. you'll have to get in contact with them.

and then, well, the bill will probably come due. iirc he charges 1000$ an hour.(16$/min) even 10 minutes of work is ~160 bucks.

good luck. i hope for your sake it ends well.

[SLG]

Why are you asking here? You need to contact Zaiger LLC. So you said refund, does that mean you have already given money?

[nullpo]

Is this for lawsuit against steam windows 7?

A quick google search reveal similar results on reddit, and looking at the adress of the company reveal a huilding, but no zaiger LLC is in the building directory


You just got scammed most likely. Good luck.

[The Guy in Your Closet]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

See it this way: if that ZaigervLLC is legit, their terms got a clause about how to back out.

If their terms don't have such a clause, not legit.

Adding to this, their terms actually do have a way to back out

You send an email with the Subject title "TCPA Consent Revocation" to [e-mail] (which should be the one that has been emailing you)

Their terms you signed have said that you don't pay them unless you win, which I assume that means if you back out they don't need compensated (assuming you have not already paid)

However, I am worried as to why they would even list what they want to be paid if there was no reason for them to be outside of what they win for you

edit: As for their hourly rate, I guess it says that instead of them collecting the 40% fee or whatever, that there's an option to hire them hourly, which their hourly rate is insane anyway

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by The Guy in Your Closet:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

See it this way: if that ZaigervLLC is legit, their terms got a clause about how to back out.

If their terms don't have such a clause, not legit.

Adding to this, their terms actually do have a way to back out

You send an email with the Subject title "TCPA Consent Revocation" to [e-mail] (which should be the one that has been emailing you)

Their terms you signed have said that you don't pay them unless you win, which I assume that means if you back out they don't need compensated (assuming you have not already paid)

However, I am worried as to why they would even list what they want to be paid if there was no reason for them to be outside of what they win for you

The reason they list that is for covering eventualities for the most part.

Things can go awry and unforeseen things do happen.

Most contracts have stuff like that. It's just to cover things. Doesn't mean it will happen.

[The Guy in Your Closet]

Originally posted by crunchyfrog:

Originally posted by The Guy in Your Closet:

Adding to this, their terms actually do have a way to back out

You send an email with the Subject title "TCPA Consent Revocation" to [e-mail] (which should be the one that has been emailing you)

Their terms you signed have said that you don't pay them unless you win, which I assume that means if you back out they don't need compensated (assuming you have not already paid)

However, I am worried as to why they would even list what they want to be paid if there was no reason for them to be outside of what they win for you

The reason they list that is for covering eventualities for the most part.

Things can go awry and unforeseen things do happen.

Most contracts have stuff like that. It's just to cover things. Doesn't mean it will happen.

I did actually go through with it and from the looks of it I’m out, I emailed now to see if he needed anything else from me (mainly money) but it doesn’t seem like it

It was actually rather quick and I think it may be a real person emailing at least, I am asking specific questions and they are being answered

[MonkehMaster]

why are you people "talking" to a bot, its obvious these posts are bots posting that lawsuit bs to advertise those crappy "lawfirms" that are likely just phishing scams.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by The Guy in Your Closet:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

See it this way: if that ZaigervLLC is legit, their terms got a clause about how to back out.

If their terms don't have such a clause, not legit.

Adding to this, their terms actually do have a way to back out

You send an email with the Subject title "TCPA Consent Revocation" to [e-mail] (which should be the one that has been emailing you)

Their terms you signed have said that you don't pay them unless you win, which I assume that means if you back out they don't need compensated (assuming you have not already paid)

However, I am worried as to why they would even list what they want to be paid if there was no reason for them to be outside of what they win for you

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3812910932496658744/#c3802778195610508585

This user also sent an email and found out that the company, Zaiger LLC has nothing to do with the case and had to email someone else on the issue. They may have mentioned who or the address in latter posts.

The problem is when I went and clicked on the email in the "retainer" document last night, it gave me the email [e-mail], who then told me that I have no such retainer with them.

Seem the person running the lawsuit doesn't work for that company anymore and started their own firm.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Originally posted by The Guy in Your Closet:

Adding to this, their terms actually do have a way to back out

You send an email with the Subject title "TCPA Consent Revocation" to [e-mail] (which should be the one that has been emailing you)

Their terms you signed have said that you don't pay them unless you win, which I assume that means if you back out they don't need compensated (assuming you have not already paid)

However, I am worried as to why they would even list what they want to be paid if there was no reason for them to be outside of what they win for you

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3812910932496658744/#c3802778195610508585

This user also sent an email and found out that the company, Zaiger LLC has nothing to do with the case and had to email someone else on the issue. They may have mentioned who or the address in latter posts.

The problem is when I went and clicked on the email in the "retainer" document last night, it gave me the email [e-mail], who then told me that I have no such retainer with them.

Seem the person running the lawsuit doesn't work for that company anymore and started their own firm.

or its a scammer using a real lawfirm name.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

or its a scammer using a real lawfirm name.

I don't want to make an assumption on something I haven't looked into, but it is always a possibility.

[Cathulhu]

Zaiger LLC is currently in a lawsuit in this case:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ctd.153901/gov.uscourts.ctd.153901.1.0.pdf

In essence, they are accused by a former employee that their activities are a simply shakedown scam and they never intended to do a class action lawsuit and tried to intimidate Valve into settle.

Too bad that Valve almost never settles outside of court.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

or its a scammer using a real lawfirm name.

I don't want to make an assumption on something I haven't looked into, but it is always a possibility.

i mean, its an email, that could be anyone typing those emails and it only makes sense that a scammers sees opportunity with these "lawsuits" and jumps on spreading "steam lawsuits" to pull in as much stolen money from the people and steal many steam accounts with everything those accounts own.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

I don't want to make an assumption on something I haven't looked into, but it is always a possibility.

i mean, its an email, that could be anyone typing those emails and it only makes sense that a scammers sees opportunity with these "lawsuits" and jumps on spreading "steam lawsuits" to pull in as much stolen money from the people and steal many steam accounts with everything those accounts own.

Butcher used to be part of ZaigerLLC.

They split and he started his own firm that is the one currently doing the Valve lawsuit.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

i mean, its an email, that could be anyone typing those emails and it only makes sense that a scammers sees opportunity with these "lawsuits" and jumps on spreading "steam lawsuits" to pull in as much stolen money from the people and steal many steam accounts with everything those accounts own.

Butcher used to be part of ZaigerLLC.

They split and he started his own firm that is the one currently doing the Valve lawsuit.

mhmm, so how do you know its "butcher" in those emails?