What Does This Tell You About Steam?

[ShadowShifterMarlith]

I checked out GOG recently, & here is what I found.

GOG Galaxy 2.0 is only a few MB to install, & installing 2 Games,
I was able to get GOG & 2 Games running at under 1 GB.

GOG Galaxy is low resource, so it does not take up much space,
& with low RAM use, you really feel the Freedom of your RAM being lifted.

Now, I come back to Steam, & this is what I get?
-- Going back to old Steam using -VGUI, cause can't open Chat.
-- Steam blocks the -VGUI command now.
-- This Sale is a joke.
-- Web Helper Performance Issues.
-- Error Code -10.
-- Valve Modderators need to do a better Job.
-- Why Stop Windows 7 Support?

This is all on the 1st Page of Steam Forums.

You don't have anythig like this in GOG Forums on the 1st Page.
GOG Galaxy seems to do well on Windows 7, lone enough Win 10 & Win 11.

What does this tell you about Steam?
Valve clearly is doing this on purpose, & deliberately making
Steam problematic for people. There has been GUI Changes
in Steam before with the Green Client going to the all Grey Client,
& you did not have such a horrible mess like you do with this so
called New Client Steam is using now.

Valve clearly is deliberately doing this to their Customers.
-- Why defend a platform that clearly keeps getting worst?
-- Especially when there are platforms out there clearly not doing so bad.

Aren't you just spending money, being wasteful here?
Hoping that Steam gets better, meanwhile other people
are having a lot more fun on other platforms?

What does this tell you about Steam?


I'm not trying to sway anyone to do anything,
i'm just basing my info on Facts. Look at the 1st
Page of Steam for yourself? You make the judgement call.

GOG might not have enough Games to compete with Steam,
but they do have Games, & these Games do run fantastically on GOG,
& from my understanding you can even run these Games Offline, too.

Meanwhile Steam is a giant Question Mark, if it'll even get any better? ~_~
-- People put way too much faith in Steam.
-- Steam is not like it's always been before, Valve clearly has changed.
-- Have you changed, too?

Then there is the Question about EPIC Games, I haven't been on
there in a while. Last I checked they were doing fairly well for a Platform.

[The Commendatore]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ShadowShifterMarlith:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Pierce Dalton:

Because the people there don't want them.:WH3_greasus_rofl:

In fact, various people don't even install Galaxy.

A lot of what is on Steam, is not wanted on GOG,
& that is part of what makes GOG sooo popular.

Low Resource, Less Clutter on the Client.
If that isn't good enough, get rid of the Client all together.

GOG doesn't even have Forums attached to GOG Galaxy?
Good, that is the way it should be. Less Clutter.

Think about it?

Steam is the only Client that is a Clutter Screw Job,
& it's the only Client with Fans arguing to go visit
them in person to cause physical violence against
for breaking things that worked perfectly fine before.

Making a whole New OS for Steam to run on, isn't
the problem, the problem is changing how Steam
functions & works, as well as how ugly it's become.
That is where the problem is.

Heck, GOG doesn't even do Privacy Theft on it's Customers.
-- The Privacy Theft people thought GOG was doing
-- Was not GOG doing it, it was other Platforms Connected to GOG doing it

It's so popular yet you're here? How contradictory to its supposed greatness.

[Aachen]

GOG is so popular?

[Brian9824]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ShadowShifterMarlith:

A lot of what is on Steam, is not wanted on GOG,
& that is part of what makes GOG sooo popular.

Popular is subjective, GoG isn't that popular compared to pretty much every other store, its why they struggle to generate a profit and why they had to layoff a good chunk of their employees a few years ago....


In 2021 they lost 1.15 million
In 2022 they made 1.2 million
We will see how 2023 does, but their revenues for their size are very poor

To combat that they have abandoned much of their previous philosphy of no DRM, and now sell games with DRM including games from platforms like EPIC.

They still are FAAAAR less popular then Steam, EPIC, etc though.

[ShadowShifterMarlith]

Opprinnelig skrevet av fluxtorrent:

you know what else it doesn't have? 90% of the games I want to play

Well that is a bummer.

It's so popular yet you're here? How contradictory to its supposed greatness.

My Game Library is hidden, so you can't see it on Mauglith's Account.
At least I think it is.

I stopped spending a while ago. I am only doing a trial version of GOG,
I haven't fully switched over. I only just got GOG? I'm not switching just like that.

GOG should work with Windows 7, since you don't
even need the Client at all to run GOG.

Did people forget about that?

[fluxtorrent]

Sure, for now, until the website gets updated to the point it can't be opened on any browser that still runs on 7

[rawWwRrr]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ShadowShifterMarlith:

GOG should work with Windows 7, since you don't
even need the Client at all to run GOG.

How do you run GOG without GOG??

[Spawn of Totoro]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Skeletor:

Steam is much more complex than GOG. It has so many features. Chromium is the main reason of resource usage :papyrus:

https://www.gog.com/forum/general_beta_gog_galaxy_2.0/why_using_libcef_74x_instead_of_109

GOG Galaxy uses CEF, same as Steam.

Opprinnelig skrevet av ShadowShifterMarlith:

GOG should work with Windows 7, since you don't
even need the Client at all to run GOG.

Did people forget about that?

.... Much of your comparison in the OP is of GOG Galaxy 2.0 vs Steam....

Opprinnelig skrevet av ShadowShifterMarlith:

I checked out GOG recently, & here is what I found.

GOG Galaxy 2.0 is only a few MB to install, & installing 2 Games,
I was able to get GOG & 2 Games running at under 1 GB.

And there are games on Steam you can download, then run on another system with out Steam. The developers choose to use Steamworks as DRM.

There are games on GOG where you don't get full access (no on-line access and some won't even allow LAN) unless you have the GOG Galaxy client installed. Some may view that as a form of DRM as well.

[ShadowShifterMarlith]

Opprinnelig skrevet av rawWwRrr:

Opprinnelig skrevet av ShadowShifterMarlith:

GOG should work with Windows 7, since you don't
even need the Client at all to run GOG.

How do you run GOG without GOG??

Same way Rockstar Games runs Rockstar Games without Rockstar Games Client.

It's i'm guessing saving your Games in two locations at once?
I don't really know. Must be some fancy way to do it.

[rawWwRrr]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ShadowShifterMarlith:

Opprinnelig skrevet av rawWwRrr:

How do you run GOG without GOG??

Same way Rockstar Games runs Rockstar Games without Rockstar Games Client.

It's i'm guessing saving your Games in two locations at once?
I don't really know. Must be some fancy way to do it.

Well, the clients still run as part of the game. Unless you're referring to the DRM-free games from GOG. But then that's not running GOG. That's just running the game from GOG and not a direct comparison to Rockstar games. All of Rockstar's games must have the Rockstar Games Launcher. It may not run on its own but it will run when you run the game so that it can connect to Rockstar's servers.

[Start_Running]

Opprinnelig skrevet av fluxtorrent:

Sure, for now, until the website gets updated to the point it can't be opened on any browser that still runs on 7

Mmmm hmm. FIrefox just popped their last update for windows 7 this week.

[Pierce Dalton]

Opprinnelig skrevet av rawWwRrr:

Opprinnelig skrevet av ShadowShifterMarlith:

GOG should work with Windows 7, since you don't
even need the Client at all to run GOG.

How do you run GOG without GOG??

They mean the games. You don't need the launcher to run games.

[Pierce Dalton]

Opprinnelig skrevet av brian9824:

Opprinnelig skrevet av ShadowShifterMarlith:

A lot of what is on Steam, is not wanted on GOG,
& that is part of what makes GOG sooo popular.

To combat that they have abandoned much of their previous philosphy of no DRM, and now sell games with DRM including games from platforms like EPIC.

That's incorrect, GOG provides offline installers for all their games, which means no DRM. The integration with EGS through their launcher is something entirely different.

[crunchyfrog]

What does this tell you?

THat GOG And Steam are two very different platforms. THat's all. You cannot equate size and all that in comparison unless you take into account they have very different visions.

Steam is more of an all in one thing where you get metagames, achievements, friends lists, community posts, and more. GOG is merely a store and account holder. It operates where you get games DRM free too, so also is lighter for that reason.

An unfair comparison because you MUST take these factors into account.

[Pierce Dalton]

Opprinnelig skrevet av crunchyfrog:

What does this tell you?

THat GOG And Steam are two very different platforms. THat's all. You cannot equate size and all that in comparison unless you take into account they have very different visions.

And most importantly, different goals. Steam only cares about one thing, money. Things are a bit different with GOG, because their anti DRM policy pushes AAA releases away from them, and those are the money printers.

[crunchyfrog]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Pierce Dalton:

Opprinnelig skrevet av crunchyfrog:

What does this tell you?

THat GOG And Steam are two very different platforms. THat's all. You cannot equate size and all that in comparison unless you take into account they have very different visions.

And most importantly, different goals. Steam only cares about one thing, money. Things are a bit different with GOG, because their anti DRM policy pushes AAA releases away from them, and those are the money printers.

Erm, no. They both care about money - they're businesses. You're being very naive if you think they're starkly different. That isn't how the business world works at all.