Another adult game rejected by Steam (Factorial Omega)

[Cobalt Squire]

I'm disappointed but, sadly, not surprised.

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Regardless of your thoughts about having explicit games on the platform, I think we can agree that the rules should be applied evenly across the board. Judging by this situation and many others before it, that doesn't seem to be the case.

[Mad Scientist]

They already said depictions of sexual conduct with minors will not be accepted.
"Even in a subtle way"

Posting here in regard to a Valve-to-Developer communication only meant for the 2 parties will not create any change.

[Cobalt Squire]

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

They already said depictions of sexual conduct with minors will not be accepted.
"Even in a subtle way"

Posting here in regard to a Valve-to-Developer communication only meant for the 2 parties will not create any change.

It worked for Chaos;Head Noah. Of course, that was a bigger game and had a whole campaign for Valve to reverse its decision. Still, it's important to raise awareness in my opinion.

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by Crimson Daemon:

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

They already said depictions of sexual conduct with minors will not be accepted.
"Even in a subtle way"

Posting here in regard to a Valve-to-Developer communication only meant for the 2 parties will not create any change.

It worked for Chaos;Head Noah. Of course, that was a bigger game and had a whole campaign for Valve to reverse its decision. Still, it's important to raise awareness in my opinion.

Any change can only be done and still requires the Developer to be in contact with Valve.

People getting involved doesn't change these decisions.

[rawWwRrr]

Valve is under no obligation to distribute any game for any reason. They could reject a game because they have blue dogs instead of red ones.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Valve is under no obligation to distribute any game for any reason. They could reject a game because they have blue dogs instead of red ones.

The this begs the question;

Why have guidelines if they can't follow them themselves?

[Cobalt Squire]

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Originally posted by Crimson Daemon:

It worked for Chaos;Head Noah. Of course, that was a bigger game and had a whole campaign for Valve to reverse its decision. Still, it's important to raise awareness in my opinion.

Any change can only be done and still requires the Developer to be in contact with Valve.

People getting involved doesn't change these decisions.

I'd suggest you to read about the C;H Noah situation. The public outcry made Valve go back in its decision and allow the game.

[Ogami]

Originally posted by Crimson Daemon:

It worked for Chaos;Head Noah. Of course, that was a bigger game and had a whole campaign for Valve to reverse its decision. Still, it's important to raise awareness in my opinion.

Chaos Head Noah was not a pornographic game. It was a normal Visual Novel with no sexual content that already got a western Switch release, that was the reason the banning did not make sense and created that campaign to reinstate the title.
Which was successful in the end.
This is a pornographic title were the rules are much more strict.

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by SlowMango:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Valve is under no obligation to distribute any game for any reason. They could reject a game because they have blue dogs instead of red ones.

The this begs the question;

Why have guidelines if they can't follow them themselves?

Who said the guidelines are for them to follow?

[Cobalt Squire]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Originally posted by Crimson Daemon:

It worked for Chaos;Head Noah. Of course, that was a bigger game and had a whole campaign for Valve to reverse its decision. Still, it's important to raise awareness in my opinion.

Chaos Head Noah was not a pornographic game. It was a normal Visual Novel with no sexual content that already got a western Switch release, that was the reason the banning did not make sense and created that campaign to reinstate the title.
Which was successful in the end.
This is a pornographic title were the rules are much more strict.

I'm aware. C;H was only brought up as an example of Valve reversing their previous decision.

[Ogami]

Originally posted by Crimson Daemon:

I'm aware. C;H was only brought up as an example of Valve reversing their previous decision.

I mean they did that a few times in the past, most prominently with "Hatred" which was banned and then brought back by Gaben himself with an apology.

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by Crimson Daemon:

Originally posted by Ogami:

Chaos Head Noah was not a pornographic game. It was a normal Visual Novel with no sexual content that already got a western Switch release, that was the reason the banning did not make sense and created that campaign to reinstate the title.
Which was successful in the end.
This is a pornographic title were the rules are much more strict.

I'm aware. C;H was only brought up as an example of Valve reversing their previous decision.

Reversing decision on another product is irrelevant to the current situation involving a pornographic game & depictions of minors in sexual situations.

No social campaign attempt will change that. The Developer would have to remove the content in question, or make the thing in question clearly be depicted as an adult in order to be considered, if not permanently refused from the attempt.

Things like this is why no one should get involved, especially for pornographic games. Developer & Valve are the only parties that should be discussing such matters.

[Cobalt Squire]

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Originally posted by Crimson Daemon:

I'm aware. C;H was only brought up as an example of Valve reversing their previous decision.

Reversing decision on another product is irrelevant to the current situation involving a pornographic game & depictions of minors in sexual situations.

No social campaign attempt will change that. The Developer would have to remove the content in question, or make the thing in question clearly be depicted as an adult in order to be considered, if not permanently refused from the attempt.

Things like this is why no one should get involved, especially for pornographic games. Developer & Valve are the only parties that should be discussing such matters.

C;H was only brought up because of the suggestion that public outcry never works. I don't expect the same to happen here since this is an indie game, but still think this should not be ignored.

If you take a look at Valve's response linked in the OP, you'll see that resubmissions of the app, even with changes, will not be accepted. So the dev can't modify the content and try to get it approved again.

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by Crimson Daemon:

C;H was only brought up because of the suggestion that public outcry never works. I don't expect the same to happen here since this is an indie game, but still think this should not be ignored.

Noted.

Thanks for the udpate.

Moving on.......

[wuddih]

Originally posted by Crimson Daemon:

So the dev can't modify the content and try to get it approved again.

what should they modify? sex is the core gameplay mechanic.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by SlowMango:

The this begs the question;

Why have guidelines if they can't follow them themselves?

Who said the guidelines are for them to follow?

If a company sets out guidelines, it's expected that they will adhere and follow those guidelines. Otherwise there is no point to having guidelines if you're just going to arbitrarily pick and choose without following the guidelines you set.