Can non-adult games get adult dlc?

[_galaxy]

First: A mature game is not a adult game. You can see mature games by default (like witcher 3 or call of duty) but steam asks your age. Adult games you have to enable the option on your steam settings and those normally are games that included non-censored sex scenes (this includes the genitalia)

Simple enough.

My question is how does this work for mature or non-mature games? Can they have adult DLC?

For instance an ESRB 10+ anime game, could it have adult-only DLC that would put non-censored sex scenes on it?

Does steam have a stance on this as well?

[Spawn of Totoro]

引用自 _galaxy：

引用自 MoonC A T：

Given their track record, Steam DGAF

Nah they did release their stance on adult games but they have no stance on adult dlc for non-adult games, however given the answer to this topic it seems it's allowed.

It is the same stance either way. It is for all adult content. The adult DLC is protected the say way adult games are. If you access the game's store page while not logged in, it will say that two items were hidden due to account preferences.

It has also been like that for a few year now (at least), so not really a recent change.

[ShelLuser]

Adult DLC is the worst crap ever.

For the simple reason that those lazy developers want to play both sides. See, if you use the DLC you're changing the game as it's listed on Steam and as a result.. Steam will pick that up as 'modding', meaning so much that... don't dare to share such screenshots because those don't match the content of the base game.

A DLC may enable adult material but if the base game isn't listed as being adult then posting those screenshots can land you into trouble.

Which is why I think this is a cheap and lazy tactic. If they had balls they would have labelled their game as adult and provided us the full intended game, not this garbage. And in this case it pains me to say this because... I enjoy adult games at times and yet I never bothered with the Nekopara DLC because... well, I wasn't fully aware and most of all... I think this game is pretty good in its own right.

[_galaxy]

引用自 Spawn of Totoro：

引用自 _galaxy：

Nah they did release their stance on adult games but they have no stance on adult dlc for non-adult games, however given the answer to this topic it seems it's allowed.

It is the same stance either way. It is for all adult content. The adult DLC is protected the say way adult games are. If you access the game's store page while not logged in, it will say that two items were hidden due to account preferences.

It has also been like that for a few year now (at least), so not really a recent change.

it's a recent change because I'm old school lol

[_galaxy]

引用自 ShelLuser：

Adult DLC is the worst crap ever.

For the simple reason that those lazy developers want to play both sides. See, if you use the DLC you're changing the game as it's listed on Steam and as a result.. Steam will pick that up as 'modding', meaning so much that... don't dare to share such screenshots because those don't match the content of the base game.

A DLC may enable adult material but if the base game isn't listed as being adult then posting those screenshots can land you into trouble.

Which is why I think this is a cheap and lazy tactic. If they had balls they would have labelled their game as adult and provided us the full intended game, not this garbage. And in this case it pains me to say this because... I enjoy adult games at times and yet I never bothered with the Nekopara DLC because... well, I wasn't fully aware and most of all... I think this game is pretty good in its own right.

They get to sell games for the non-adult and adult audience, it's not the worst crap ever.

They wouldn't be able to recoup costs with selling only the adult version most likely. That's not how the market works. Why do you think only cheap games are adult only? I haven't ever seen a AA or AAA adult only game.

[ShelLuser]

引用自 _galaxy：

They get to sell games for the non-adult and adult audience, it's not the worst crap ever.

It is, for us players.

Steam is about using the Steam facilities, and that includes sharing screenshots and such for your and other players pleasure. Can't do that when this garbage is in effect.

Strange.. for someone who asks about adult games you sure suddenly claim to know a lot about it despite your OP telling otherwise. Why am I not surprised ;)


Adult DLC is a cheapscape tactic for lazy developers who don't want to take this as serious as they should and instead they'd rather put the blame of any fallout with their fans. Now what does that tell us about them, hmm?

If you want to address the adult market at least have the balls and/or decency to do just that. Don't take cheap shortcuts.

(edit2)

You do realize that they could also opt for using 2 game hubs, right? It's a cheap skate lame tactic. No more, no less.

[_galaxy]

引用自 ShelLuser：

引用自 _galaxy：

They get to sell games for the non-adult and adult audience, it's not the worst crap ever.

It is, for us players.

Steam is about using the Steam facilities, and that includes sharing screenshots and such for your and other players pleasure. Can't do that when this garbage is in effect.

Strange.. for someone who asks about adult games you sure suddenly claim to know a lot about it despite your OP telling otherwise. Why am I not surprised ;)


Adult DLC is a cheapscape tactic for lazy developers who don't want to take this as serious as they should and instead they'd rather put the blame of any fallout with their fans. Now what does that tell us about them, hmm?

If you want to address the adult market at least have the balls and/or decency to do just that. Don't take cheap shortcuts.

(edit2)

You do realize that they could also opt for using 2 game hubs, right? It's a cheap skate lame tactic. No more, no less.

It's not as simple as you are making it out to be.

If you want us to be able to share screenshoots of games that have adult dlc, make a thread on the suggestions forum.

Also, this thread is not addressing the adult market, it's simply a question. But if you wanna go in that lane..


I love the way steam handled the adult market including adult dlc for non-adult games, even if you can't "share the screenshoots". For me they're miles ahead of every other platform. Even with their shortcomings it's fine by me.

[ANUBIS]

adult game/dlc ? :))

[ShelLuser]

引用自 _galaxy：

It's not as simple as you are making it out to be.

Yes it is.

引用自 _galaxy：

If you want us to be able to share screenshoots of games that have adult dlc, make a thread on the suggestions forum.

I don't have to. All it takes is for the base game to include these materials and thus be tagged as an adult game. Then I'm fully free to share such screenshots because those fall into the game hub and thus will get restricted according to the games own ratings.

引用自 _galaxy：

Also, this thread is not addressing the adult market, it's simply a question. But if you wanna go in that lane..

Your subject says otherwise.

And this is a discussion forum...

[_galaxy]

引用自 ShelLuser：

引用自 _galaxy：

It's not as simple as you are making it out to be.

Yes it is.

引用自 _galaxy：

If you want us to be able to share screenshoots of games that have adult dlc, make a thread on the suggestions forum.

I don't have to. All it takes is for the base game to include these materials and thus be tagged as an adult game. Then I'm fully free to share such screenshots because those fall into the game hub and thus will get restricted according to the games own ratings.

引用自 _galaxy：

Also, this thread is not addressing the adult market, it's simply a question. But if you wanna go in that lane..

Your subject says otherwise.

And this is a discussion forum...

you are literally asking for a change on steam we have a forum called steam suggestions and you refuse to make a thread there??????

Yes this is a discussion forum but telling me to make nekopara create a second hub is stupid I'm no steam dev

[ShelLuser]

引用自 _galaxy：

you are literally asking for a change on steam we have a forum called steam suggestions and you refuse to make a thread there??????

Trolling much? Or just clueless because you never bothered to read my post?

I'm not asking for any change on Steam, why do you think I'm calling those developers lazy cheapskates? You defended them, you claimed to understand and now... that's borderline trolling. Especially because I already spelled it out above:

Instead of using the cheap way of using DLC the base game itself should have been marked as adult; include all the materials from the get-go and then us players can enjoy the game on Steam to its fullest extend: which would include the sharing of screenshots because the game itself (and thus its hub) is marked as an adult game.

Easy.

Unfortunately there are many lazy cheap-skate developers who want to have it both ways. And as a result many players find themselves in trouble if they share such screenshots on their screenshot profile showcase because... the game wasn't rated adult so such screenshots are not allowed.

Lame & cheap tactic.

So far all you told me I was wrong yet I have never heard any actual arguments.

[TherinWhitten]

引用自 Ogami：

Some games already do that on Steam.
Like the Nekopara Visual Novel games.
The standard versions are All Ages releases with no adult content but all 4 main games sell a 18+ DLC on Steam that upgrades the games to the pornographic adult versions.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/333600/NEKOPARA_Vol_1/

PS: You can only see/buy the DLC if you have "adult sexual content" activated in your account preferences and if you dont live in a region that bans adult games on Steam in general like Germany.

I might take this approach once we get close to release.