Steam china is disconcerting

[Pink Man]

I recently watched linus tech tip's video on the new steam china app and I am quite disappointed in how steam handled this situation. However, it seems impossible for steam to refuse because 18 percent of the userbase could leave if china bans steam in their country. TBH I just don't want steam to be another epic games or blizzard.

Also I heard some users claim that they have an empty folder called steam china despite the fact that they are american. Which is weird

[Halo]

If you want to do business in China you trade under their regulations that don't exist anywhere else in the world.

Funny how money can make concerns about irrelevancies like Human Rights and environmental destruction evaporate.

Such is the power of access to the biggest - controlled, manipulated and subsidised -consumer market in the world.

[Ganger]

Handled the situation ? I don't understand OP.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

The folder is nothing to worry about...

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/3004430047187781695/

[nullable]

"I have no stake in the business, but I have opinions about how it should be run."

Hey does this mean I as a self-centered American I grumble about how I'm disappointed in how Valve's handled the EU? Or is there is a certain threshold that's required to validate arbitrary grumbling?

[Crazy Tiger]

Valve wants to make more money, China is a big market, a separate client is the middle ground to do business there.

[crunchyfrog]

It's not weird to have an extra folder. You are falling for silly suspicion as you CANNOT know how they code Steam as a platform.

How did you determine this is simply not in exsitence because it's easiest for Valve to present it this way?

I seriously hope you're not falling for the old "bogeyman" effect.

[Pete Hegseth]

Chillax dude, steam China is now up and running in China but there are no signs yet for perfectworld or China to block steam. So there’s a high possibility for them to exist simultaneously in China. I’m a Chinese and I can guarantee you that the steam china folder is not there for the Chinese government to steal your privacy. It’s there because both steam and steamchina runs off the same platform

[Pink Man]

Originally posted by SkrimZ:

Chillax dude, steam China is now up and running in China but there are no signs yet for perfectworld or China to block steam. So there’s a high possibility for them to exist simultaneously in China. I’m a Chinese and I can guarantee you that the steam china folder is not there for the Chinese government to steal your privacy. It’s there because both steam and steamchina runs off the same platform

Yeah I just thought that was worth bringing up I don't have the folder on my pc and from what other people are saying its pretty standard

[Pink Man]

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

"I have no stake in the business, but I have opinions about how it should be run."

Hey does this mean I as a self-centered American I grumble about how I'm disappointed in how Valve's handled the EU? Or is there is a certain threshold that's required to validate arbitrary grumbling?

I just think the overall issue here is when companies value profit over morality I don't want valve to be another company like that

[Pink Man]

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

"I have no stake in the business, but I have opinions about how it should be run."

Hey does this mean I as a self-centered American I grumble about how I'm disappointed in how Valve's handled the EU? Or is there is a certain threshold that's required to validate arbitrary grumbling?

The issue isn't economic its more of a moral one also nationality is irrelevant in this discussion

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by Robert House:

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

"I have no stake in the business, but I have opinions about how it should be run."

Hey does this mean I as a self-centered American I grumble about how I'm disappointed in how Valve's handled the EU? Or is there is a certain threshold that's required to validate arbitrary grumbling?

I just think the overall issue here is when companies value profit over morality I don't want valve to be another company like that

There are morally good people in China. Should they not be allowed to play video games? Having a China version of Steam doesn't mean that Valve is accepting of China's governmental policies. It's doing what it can to play by the rules that government has set up so they can reach their Chinese audience.

[Pete Hegseth]

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by Robert House:

I just think the overall issue here is when companies value profit over morality I don't want valve to be another company like that

There are morally good people in China. Should they not be allowed to play video games? Having a China version of Steam doesn't mean that Valve is accepting of China's governmental policies. It's doing what it can to play by the rules that government has set up so they can reach their Chinese audience.

The policies towards video games in China is bugging me, The GFW(Great firewall, blocks foreign apps eg. Twitter Facebook) also blocked Steam community back in 2018 as I recalled

[cinedine]

If you want to do business in the US you also have to abide by their rules.
No strong encrpytion, granting access to the alphabet on request, no doing business with certain other countries ...

It still baffles me that people think China is bad when the US jsut as much spies on their people. Or literally any other country in the world. G7 to banana republic.

[adz]

i think i asked this question in another thread but couldn't remember the thread anyways from 2003 up until now there has been no Chinese users on steam? i feel like all these years i have seen users from china. so i dont really understand steam china.

[Chompman]

Originally posted by adz:

i think i asked this question in another thread but couldn't remember the thread anyways from 2003 up until now there has been no Chinese users on steam? i feel like all these years i have seen users from china. so i dont really understand steam china.

More then likely it's something that China will use over normal steam that we use now once it's running properly.

It's probably going to be the usual stuff like more control of what games are allowed and where their game servers are located for the ability to control the content that people using it will be able to see for much tighter speech / media restriction's.

One would have to assume China has told steam for this kind of service to be able to continue to use their market or no longer have the ability to do business in their country in the future as is often with businesses outside of China's region.