A client for older operating system that just downloads and playing on older operating systems

[XeneoMorph]

So I like to play games but there are games so broken on windows 10 and cause all sort of issues due to the fact they were never meant for xp. Their should be a client that should just be simple that all it does is download and playing games on xp like older total wars games which have all sort of issues on modern operating system but on xp it does have issues but it should work fine without crashing. This is just a lame example but we have a huge library of older games and trying to get them to work on windows 10 is a hassle and just adding back older operating system support from xp-7 will allow people to play these games on the operating system it was released for.

Edit: I am not asking for a client that has social or buying features, I am asking for a client that you just sign in then you only download your game then play it

Edit 2: Stop ♥♥♥♥ing arguing with each other jesus christ your all acting like animals. I'm sorry fpr you guys but this whole argument just a ♥♥♥♥ing warzone which seriously you should stop this. I'm just asking for a client just released very little maintenance and all it does is download games and just play them on older operating system like xp not a ♥♥♥♥ing argument about legality and ♥♥♥♥ but just a suggestion on a client for that and I'm not expecting security for the users as the operating system is out of date but at least have some support on it as there are a lot of windows xp games still on the store or in people's library that went off sale but it's still in their libraries like Stubbs the Zombie in Rebel Without a Pulse which works fine on older operating system but on windows 10 I heard it's a hassle to get running. This is an example of why there should be some support people still owns games in their library that were removed from the steam store that have a hard time running on windows 10. I'm only asking for just that client nothing more then less so stop adding in gog and other ♥♥♥♥ that has nothing to do with a client for older operating systems.

[Hennix]

win 10 is superb for gaming

[Crazy Tiger]

Has been asked before. Valve never did this when they cut support for an older OS, don't count on them doing it now. There was a huge thread about XP/Vista, but it didn't make a difference.

[Darren]

I remember the massive thread I also remember people asking someone to find a game that didn't work on Windows 10 and every example was found to work in some cases without any effort at all in some with tweaking.

Can we have an example of one of those games that doesn't work on Windows 10?

[Tito Shivan]

It didn't happen when Steam deprecated support for W2000 and it didn't when they dropped it for XP and Vista. I wouldn't count on it happening.
As said above there's been lengthy discussions over the subject every time an OS is dropped from support which should be avaiable through the search engine.

[Satoru]

Messaggio originale di Darren:

I remember the massive thread I also remember people asking someone to find a game that didn't work on Windows 10 and every example was found to work in some cases without any effort at all in some with tweaking.

Can we have an example of one of those games that doesn't work on Windows 10?

Only games using SecuRom won’t work as the kernel hook for it was removed. But like the only one i recall is a Sims3 DLC. There are very very few gams that don’t run. Even something like Bioshock 1 which hd some problems i functionally solved as you can just play the remastered version

[CouchPowerS]

Messaggio originale di Tito Shivan:

It didn't happen when Steam deprecated support for W2000 and it didn't when they dropped it for XP and Vista. I wouldn't count on it happening.
As said above there's been lengthy discussions over the subject every time an OS is dropped from support which should be avaiable through the search engine.

From 06/05/2020 no older client will not connect to Steam!
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/2299597907723991725/#c2299597907724148354
Why can Uplay have a client for XP and Steam when it completely disables Windows 7? I don't have a single game for Windows 10.
For a while, it was definitely impossible to play games via Steam even on Windows 7?
Here Valve crossed the border. If this does not work out quickly, I will contact the EP and the EC. When they knew how to divide the railways, power plants, gas stations, airports, they can also do it with Steam. This is a huge encroachment on fundamental rights. Bequeath this to the bosses of this private company. AT&T is on its way! At least the new commission will have some success. I also know what to suggest to them.

[Darren]

Messaggio originale di CouchPowerS:

Messaggio originale di Tito Shivan:

It didn't happen when Steam deprecated support for W2000 and it didn't when they dropped it for XP and Vista. I wouldn't count on it happening.
As said above there's been lengthy discussions over the subject every time an OS is dropped from support which should be avaiable through the search engine.

From 06/05/2020 no older client will not connect to Steam!
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/2299597907723991725/#c2299597907724148354
Why can Uplay have a client for XP and Steam when it completely disables Windows 7? I don't have a single game for Windows 10.
For a while, it was definitely impossible to play games via Steam even on Windows 7?
Here Valve crossed the border. If this does not work out quickly, I will contact the EP and the EC. When they knew how to divide the railways, power plants, gas stations, airports, they can also do it with Steam. This is a huge encroachment on fundamental rights. Bequeath this to the bosses of this private company. AT&T is on its way! At least the new commission will have some success. I also know what to suggest to them.

This is why Steam offers auto-updates, because there are changes they have to do that will result in backend changes some are for security (to change the attack surface of Steam to make it more difficult for hackers, as well as to fix security issues on the client side by fixing them and then preventing people running older compromised versions), some are to enable new features, and sometimes just because on reflection the way a given thing works just isn't the right way to do it and we need to do it this way instead.

Nothing they are doing by doing these upgrades is illegal or unethical or has anything to do with your fundamental rights (you don't have the right for Steam to be open to hacking because they can't close down vulnerabilities that would break older clients).

[CouchPowerS]

Darren, the advantage of 2021 is that you can consult issues with your Members of the European Parliament online. A new parliament, young, progressive, digitally educated MEPs and an ideal agenda for them.
In the past, the Valve refused a refund. GDPR is also great. I am an optimist. We have already exchanged a few messages, it will not be possible right away, but we have a similar opinion. We have a deal. I'll wait a few days, and if that doesn't work, I'll write a draft and send it to them. We also know what the proposed solutions will be.

[Start_Running]

Messaggio originale di CouchPowerS:

Darren, the advantage of 2021 is that you can consult issues with your Members of the European Parliament online. A new parliament, young, progressive, digitally educated MEPs and an ideal agenda for them.

And then someone will explain to them that it's not practical to hold the majority of the user base at risk because a few hold outs don't want to upgrade.

In the past, the Valve refused a refund.

Theyy've always had a refund policy. IAll that changed was they automated it to be less time consuming.

I am an optimist. We have already exchanged a few messages, it will not be possible right away, but we have a similar opinion. We have a deal. I'll wait a few days, and if that doesn't work, I'll write a draft and send it to them. We also know what the proposed solutions will be.

The solution is that you upgrade. Simple as that.
As said, you can't have Valve leaving themselves and by extension millions of users and hundreds of business partners open to risk because a few people don't wanna upgrade. Or install linux and run the game through proton.

[wuddih]

Messaggio originale di CouchPowerS:

Darren, the advantage of 2021 is that you can consult issues with your Members of the European Parliament online. A new parliament, young, progressive, digitally educated MEPs and an ideal agenda for them.
In the past, the Valve refused a refund. GDPR is also great. I am an optimist. We have already exchanged a few messages, it will not be possible right away, but we have a similar opinion. We have a deal. I'll wait a few days, and if that doesn't work, I'll write a draft and send it to them. We also know what the proposed solutions will be. :winter2019coolyul:

dont send it to them, that will never get read.
you have to go on the big stage of subreddit r/gaming and publish your "solution" there.
i am pretty sure after what you wrote here, you will get great responses there and good high velocity claps on the back of you head.

my oldest refund on Steam was in 2010 btw.

[Tito Shivan]

Messaggio originale di CouchPowerS:

Messaggio originale di Tito Shivan:

It didn't happen when Steam deprecated support for W2000 and it didn't when they dropped it for XP and Vista. I wouldn't count on it happening.
As said above there's been lengthy discussions over the subject every time an OS is dropped from support which should be avaiable through the search engine.

From 06/05/2020 no older client will not connect to Steam!
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/2299597907723991725/#c2299597907724148354
Why can Uplay have a client for XP and Steam when it completely disables Windows 7? I don't have a single game for Windows 10.

Except Uplay does not has an XP client or supports the OS anymore either.

XP is not listed on the Uplay client supported OS list:
https://support.ubisoft.com/en-us/Faqs/000018922/System-Requirements

Supported OS: Windows Vista (SP3) / Windows 7 (SP1) / Windows 8 (SP1)

The only way of using the client on XP is through an older and unsupported version of the client
https://support.ubisoft.com/en-us/Faqs/000026524/Uplay-PC-and-Windows-XP

As Microsoft has officially ENDED SUPPORT FOR WINDOWS XP, newer versions of Uplay PC are not compatible with this operating system.

If you have an older version of Uplay PC installed on your Windows XP machine, you will still be able to run it and the games that support Windows XP, but you won't be able to update Uplay PC and benefit from its newest features.

[Crazy Tiger]

Messaggio originale di CouchPowerS:

Why can Uplay have a client for XP and Steam when it completely disables Windows 7? I don't have a single game for Windows 10.

Uplay doesn't support XP. Steam won't completely disable support for Win 7 anytime soon.

Messaggio originale di CouchPowerS:

For a while, it was definitely impossible to play games via Steam even on Windows 7?

Which is still possible.

Messaggio originale di CouchPowerS:

This is a huge encroachment on fundamental rights.

It's not. Being able to game on win XP is not a fundamental right.

[CouchPowerS]

It's not my priority, I'm worried more about another thing https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/2299597907724944617/
But since it will be part of the draft, I sacrificed time and made a record. This is what it looked like:

Microsoft Windows XP
IE8
▶️ uplay - Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage
▶️ chrome ▶️ Download chrome ▶️ version 49.0.2623.112 ▶️ working

Chrome
▶️ uplay ▶️ Download Now ▶️ UplayInstaller 113MB ▶️ Uplay 109.0 installer - The version of Windows you are using is not suppored by this application. Press OK to download a supported version of this application. ▶️ OK ▶️ automatic Downloading 56.5MB client ▶️ Uplay 23.0 Installer ▶️ Log in ▶️ working, library available

▶️ Steam ▶️ Install Steam - 1,5MB client ▶️ Steam needs to be online to update ▶️ OK ▶️ The end!


Clearly Valve arbitrarily and deliberately prevented people who had and used those games on Windows XP from using their game library. Unequivocally without reason. Only from a position of strength. Until yesterday, it was possible to use the old version. Here too, Valve took a deliberate and unequivocal step from a position of strength that actively prevented old clients from connecting, log in. There is no real excuse. It is just a demonstration of strength, arbitrariness, arrogance. Clear violation of customer rights.

I assume that Valve will have the opportunity to express himself. I wish you good luck, because Valve should be able to find out who is in the European Parliament.

The question is if Google can support XP, if Ubisoft can support XP, what a rational reason Valve is to arbitrarily restrict customers' rights because of the operating system used, on which it had previously operated and sold games. None exists.
If you try security, it is up to the customer to accept the risk. Not to the company to arbitrarily prevent him from accessing his property. As a result, Valve itself has actively prevented parts of its customers from using their assets, license, or whatever it is called.
New features? This is no reason to arbitrarily restrict fundamental rights.
Valve can repeat the same thing against Windows 7 at any time.

Unambiguously, demonstrably at any time.


Basically, I have nothing more to add. That's enough. I just have to work out a proposal for a solution, which is basically done. Then it just need to be consulted legislatively. This will be done by some organization under the European Parliament. I don't know the details here.

It's just a matter of whether Valve makes amends, or we will use the time of forced leave to solve this problem. For our part, it will be shorter, Valve will sweat. Maybe nothing will happen and the young progressive and technically educated will have a different topic.

[Crazy Tiger]

Messaggio originale di CouchPowerS:

Clear violation of customer rights.

Please provide clear evidence where it's listed in the rights that companies have to support an unsupported OS and that what Valve did is against those rights.

[Tito Shivan]

Messaggio originale di CouchPowerS:

The question is if Google can support XP

Except they don't.
Google stopped supporting Chrome for XP beyond Chrome 49. (Fun fact: The Steam client works under Chromium, which at the current version does not support WinXP)

Note than being able to download a previous client version that runs on a certain OS does not equate with the OS being 'supported'.