come on, where is the steam springsale? everyone doing spring sales...

[Matti]

i need some games, while we still have the corona epidemic, there's no point in a sale for me and my friends when we have to go to work.

we need games right now, valve come on stop slacking.

btw that publisher -75% sale , doesn't count, it blows dong. microsoft games, blow.

[wuddih]

steam never did a spring sale, same with easter.

the thing called spring cleaning event was never a sale. that is a motivation event to play your existing stuff and a few f2p games are promoted and some go on a f2p period.

everyone other site/platform doing a sale right now, they can only ethically justify that if they did such a sale in the past. if they didn't, they are just exploiting the situation right now.

[Gambit-3k]

Publicado originalmente por wuddih:

steam never did a spring sale, same with easter.

the thing called spring cleaning event was never a sale. that is a motivation event to play your existing stuff and a few f2p games are promoted and some go on a f2p period.

everyone other site/platform doing a sale right now, they can only ethically justify that if they did such a sale in the past. if they didn't, they are just exploiting the situation right now.

That's not entirely true, after some research it seems it was a sale in 2018 with a group of games offered for sale with the event, in 2019 there was no sale attached to it. At least that's according to sites that keep track of sales and places like PC gamer, they say it was a sale in 2018 but not 2019. A sale isn't an event, but an event can be a sale.

However, either way it doesn't matter because Steam has so many games on sale recently it's insane.

[Crazy Tiger]

Publicado originalmente por Gambit-3:

Publicado originalmente por wuddih:

steam never did a spring sale, same with easter.

the thing called spring cleaning event was never a sale. that is a motivation event to play your existing stuff and a few f2p games are promoted and some go on a f2p period.

everyone other site/platform doing a sale right now, they can only ethically justify that if they did such a sale in the past. if they didn't, they are just exploiting the situation right now.

That's not entirely true, after some research it seems it was a sale in 2018 with a group of games offered for sale with the event, in 2019 there was no sale attached to it. At least that's according to sites that keep track of sales and places like PC gamer, they say it was a sale in 2018 but not 2019. A sale isn't an event, but an event can be a sale.

Spring Cleaning 2018 had no sale: https://store.steampowered.com/news/40462

There was a VR Spring sale, yes: https://store.steampowered.com/news/39076

[Gambit-3k]

Publicado originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Publicado originalmente por Gambit-3:

That's not entirely true, after some research it seems it was a sale in 2018 with a group of games offered for sale with the event, in 2019 there was no sale attached to it. At least that's according to sites that keep track of sales and places like PC gamer, they say it was a sale in 2018 but not 2019. A sale isn't an event, but an event can be a sale.

Spring Cleaning 2018 had no sale: https://store.steampowered.com/news/40462

There was a VR Spring sale, yes: https://store.steampowered.com/news/39076

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-steam-spring-sale-is-live/

Notice the list at the bottom of games on sale. It's true in 2019 there wasn't games on sale tied to the event, according to past articles.

edit:
It's probably because the Summer sale is literally a month after which is one of the biggest sales throughout the year.

[Crazy Tiger]

Publicado originalmente por Gambit-3:

Publicado originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Spring Cleaning 2018 had no sale: https://store.steampowered.com/news/40462

There was a VR Spring sale, yes: https://store.steampowered.com/news/39076

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-steam-spring-sale-is-live/

notice the list on the bottom of games on sale. It's true in 2019 there wasn't games on sale tied to the event according to past articles.

And as said before in the thread, that publishers put games on a discount, doesn't change that the actual event isn't a sales event and therefore isn't a Steam sale. Publishers can put games on discount any given day of the year. Of course some will do it in the same time as such an event.

Those games at the bottom of that article were merely games that were put on sale by the publishers, they're not tied to the event.

[Gambit-3k]

Publicado originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Publicado originalmente por Gambit-3:

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-steam-spring-sale-is-live/

notice the list on the bottom of games on sale. It's true in 2019 there wasn't games on sale tied to the event according to past articles.

And as said before in the thread, that publishers put games on a discount, doesn't change that the actual event isn't a sales event and therefore isn't a Steam sale. Publishers can put games on discount any given day of the year. Of course some will do it in the same time as such an event.

Those games at the bottom of that article were merely games that were put on sale by the publishers, they're not tied to the event.

Are you kidding me right now, every Steam sales event is publishers putting the games on sale. Are we now saying Steam doesn't have a Summer sale??????????

[Crazy Tiger]

Publicado originalmente por Gambit-3:

Publicado originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

And as said before in the thread, that publishers put games on a discount, doesn't change that the actual event isn't a sales event and therefore isn't a Steam sale. Publishers can put games on discount any given day of the year. Of course some will do it in the same time as such an event.

Those games at the bottom of that article were merely games that were put on sale by the publishers, they're not tied to the event.

Are you kidding me right now, every Steam sales event is publishers putting the games on sale. Are we now saying Steam doesn't have a Winter Sale now??????????

Winter Sale is a sales event, with tasks and badges tied to the purchasing of games. Valve throws out a mail to publishers informing them of the sale and usually a large part of the Steam catalog goes on sale.

During Spring Cleaning, that is not so. The event revolves around playing games in your library already withthe badges and such tied to that and there isn't a large part of the catalog of Steam on sale during that event.

Games being on sale around an event =/= sales event organised by Valve. The latter is a Steam sale, the former is a Steam event with games being discounted on coincidence.

[Gambit-3k]

Publicado originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Publicado originalmente por Gambit-3:

Are you kidding me right now, every Steam sales event is publishers putting the games on sale. Are we now saying Steam doesn't have a Winter Sale now??????????

Winter Sale is a sales event, with tasks and badges tied to the purchasing of games. Valve throws out a mail to publishers informing them of the sale and usually a large part of the Steam catalog goes on sale.

During Spring Cleaning, that is not so. The event revolves around playing games in your library already and there isn't a large part of the catalog of Steam on sale during that event.

Games being on sale around an event =/= sales event organised by Valve. The latter is a Steam sale, the former is a Steam event with games being discounted on coincidence.

And in 2018, the Spring event had games on sale in coordination with Valve, just like they do in the Summer sales event, it was just a smaller collection, but still a sale. In 2019 it wasn't, in 2018 it was. What is the issue?

[Crazy Tiger]

Publicado originalmente por Gambit-3:

Publicado originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Winter Sale is a sales event, with tasks and badges tied to the purchasing of games. Valve throws out a mail to publishers informing them of the sale and usually a large part of the Steam catalog goes on sale.

During Spring Cleaning, that is not so. The event revolves around playing games in your library already and there isn't a large part of the catalog of Steam on sale during that event.

Games being on sale around an event =/= sales event organised by Valve. The latter is a Steam sale, the former is a Steam event with games being discounted on coincidence.

And in 2018 the Spring event had games on sale in coordination with Valve, just like they do in the Summer sales, it was just a smaller collection, but still a sale. In 2019 it wasn't, in 2018 it was, what is the issue?

In 2019 there were also games discounted. I know that, as I also purchased some games then. In 2018 that was the same way.

The issue is that people are creating wrong expectations. As said, a real Steram sale has a different type of event, badgetasks and a hell of a lot bigger part of the catalog on sale. Spring Cleaning does not, so calling it a Steam sale will create the wrong expectations with people.
In the same way that now other sites doing spring sales create the wrong expectations in people.
It doesn't help that crap sites like PC Gamer use the wrong definitions in that with poor clickbait articles.

[wuddih]

if i say "sale" i mean storewide sales hosted by Valve with opt-in and these are only the seasonal sales. lunar,summer,halloween,autumn,winter. these are the only regular sales where Valve asks pub/devs to participate.

VR spring sale 2018 was afaik not really opt-in. i have devs with vr games and only one of them got a mail for this pre-emptively. so this was super likely manually curated.

everything else is mostly "automatically" curated and the process is quite stupidly simple. publisher puts alot of lego games on planned discount, blub, someone from Valve slaps a few images together and it becomes a "lego spring sale" box on the front page.

same with the current xbox sale. Valve has a bit more hope for that to print more money, so they do an entire takeover banner. microsoft didn't pay any money for that giant banner, they didn't tell anyone to do this. Valve promotes that what goes ching ching.

[Gambit-3k]

Publicado originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Publicado originalmente por Gambit-3:

And in 2018 the Spring event had games on sale in coordination with Valve, just like they do in the Summer sales, it was just a smaller collection, but still a sale. In 2019 it wasn't, in 2018 it was, what is the issue?

In 2019 there were also games discounted. I know that, as I also purchased some games then. In 2018 that was the same way.

The issue is that people are creating wrong expectations. As said, a real Steram sale has a different type of event, badgetasks and a hell of a lot bigger part of the catalog on sale. Spring Cleaning does not, so calling it a Steam sale will create the wrong expectations with people.
In the same way that now other sites doing spring sales create the wrong expectations in people.
It doesn't help that crap sites like PC Gamer use the wrong definitions in that with poor clickbait articles.

Ok, I mean some people consider games being on sale associated with an event a sale, even if it's a smaller sale. The summer sale is a month later, so it makes sense it's not some big thing. I agree some people probably get the wrong idea about it. It is weird that sites that track sales, (not just PC gamer) consider spring 2018 a sale, but then they say spring 2019 wasn't. They say stuff like there was no spring sale this year like there was in 2018.

So I mean it's just a weird thing to get into a fight about, myself included. Again though this whole thing is silly because there have been so many publisher sales, daily sales, weekly sales (more than usual) and weekend sales, sales on sales on sales, I don't know what more people actually want.

[Blanchflower]

Yes that is human nature. Most people are never satisfied with anything

[Crazy Tiger]

Publicado originalmente por Gambit-3:

Publicado originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

In 2019 there were also games discounted. I know that, as I also purchased some games then. In 2018 that was the same way.

The issue is that people are creating wrong expectations. As said, a real Steram sale has a different type of event, badgetasks and a hell of a lot bigger part of the catalog on sale. Spring Cleaning does not, so calling it a Steam sale will create the wrong expectations with people.
In the same way that now other sites doing spring sales create the wrong expectations in people.
It doesn't help that crap sites like PC Gamer use the wrong definitions in that with poor clickbait articles.

Ok, I mean some people consider games being on sale associated with an event a sale, even if it's a smaller sale. The summer sale is a month later, so it makes sense it's not some big thing. I agree some people probably get the wrong idea about it. It is weird that sites that track sales, not just PC gamer consider 2018 a sale, but then they say 2019 wasn't. They say stuff like there was no spring sale this year like there was in 2018.

So I mean it's just a weird thing to get into a fight about, myself included. Again though this whole thing is silly because There have mean so many publisher sales, game award sales, daily sales (more than usual) and weekend sales and sales sales sales, I don't know what more people actually want.

It's not worth a fight, totally agree. I just want to make clear the difference between both type of events.

I know you don't really confuse the things, but many people do. And well, we already see what happens when people have wrong expectations when we look at all the threads about Early Access, after getting scammed, etc. Calling Spring Cleaning event a sale will only result in people expecting an actual sales event and being disappointed when they notice that it isn't. Hence why I put links from the Steam news posts and not some site. ;)

So therefore, the next big Steam sale is the Summer Sale. Spring Cleaning is a nice event just before that.
That said, timing has nothing to do with it. Keep in mind that the Autumn and Winter sale also are merely a month or so apart. It's just that Spring cleaning is a widespread term and that Valve probably thought "Steam backlog has become a phrase in its own, we should do something with that".

[Matti]

Publicado originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Publicado originalmente por Matti:

there's no point in a sale for me and my friends when we have to go to work.

Guess what, the world doesn't revolve around you or your friends.

it kindah does from my perspective.

[Aachen]

Publicado originalmente por Matti:

it kindah does from my perspective.

That’s nigh the only circumstance it might.