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Black screen for properties menu, run Steam as admin.
did all those things
Deleted Steam and re-installed it , it started working again for a while , then i got another update and it stopped working again , this UI is unacceptable
It is not an isolated case , there are thousands of people who experience this problems the forums are filled with them , i just thought maybe someone from steam will see it here because they are barely responsive on any other thread
The UI lags, Freezes , Stops responding , all this things did not happen to me on the old UI
I don't see why all of a sudden its not working , they havn't made any unique changes that other companies havn't already used with better success (im not asking for perfection here)
every few days something else freezes
And as you can read from the header "clicking on items" means just that , i did not specify because a lot of the time nothing works
An item can be a game on the list (which happened right now) a button in the UI
And item from the gallery etc
Sometimes you click on something then count to 15 before it opens , at other times its not opening at all
Then after a while it starts responding again and then gets stuck again
If it was only me . i would say its probably my PC . but its not just me
Typically issues aren't unique to one individual. There are usually common reasons why a certain number of people are experiencing the same problem. Given that MILLIONS use Steam every day with an infinite number of possible hardware combinations, whatever you are experiencing with Steam is most likely local to what you have rather than something with the client.
Look for it online , a few thousand people complained , i don't know how many more did not bother
I personally read a few dozen complaints on the first hour after the release of this new UI and i too did not want to agree with them , but they are all correct , this UI is terrible and was not tested properly before release
They did fix some of the complaints the last time i checked , just not all of them and not all of them were fixed very well (ie the solutions they choose do not seem good enough)
Thats just an example of this last time
Its been broken from day one
the fact you like a laggy UI does not make it good
I have a 1060 GTX card , 16 GB RAM , Intel I7 ,250GB ssd + 1TB HDD and a 100mb/s internet connection , its not good enough for steam ?
seriously
and what does the firewall of Windows 10 has to do with the performance of the UI ?
even if it somehow slows down calls to the server why did it work a few days ago (slowly) and now it does not
and why would it completly prevent me from opening an installed games page (even if it did not have the info for the page ... which i highly doubt) so i can click the play button
or stop the context menu from loading up so i can click on properties ...
If you do not understand how Windows 10 keeps screwing things up, perhaps you ought to google.
When Windows 10 updates, IT CHANGES SETTINGS. Sometimes, settings that you personally clicked or altered. A lot of users have seen it reset their firewall and virus scanner to scan live - meaning whenever Steam is in use, the firewall attempts to isolate it - making use of that function choppy and bad. A lot of users have seen it reset the video card settings, meaning that games which require a video card, are sent instead to any onboard chipset for the motherboard to handle and thus stop working "mysteriously".
So yes, if your windows installation has updated before you've seen this happening, *that may be why*. It might not be the ONLY reason why, but it is certainly a big red target for troubleshooting purposes.
The virus scanner may be blocking or slowing steam's processes. It may be as simple as changing your settings for scanning.
If it was the client itself, *literally the entire forum* would be FILLED to the brim with this problem. I would be having it. Hotsauce would be having it. Rawr would be having it. Since ... y'know, we're NOT having that issue, it's the first thing to do to check what is going on in your system.
I'm not saying that the steam system is perfect and unflawed - but I am saying that the biggest and most obvious culprits may be tackled first, to narrow it down to more fiddly fixes. Without starting with broad strokes like windows updates or other software interfering, no one can tell you how best to proceed.
Go google it or search it on the forums , its broken there are literally thousands of complainers
I checked before i posted this
Some of them are not on the steam forums but feel free to search redit , and also search for the petition to revert back to the old UI just for a reference
The ONLY update i had was for steam , no new updates for windows were installed recently ( i do not allow automatic updates on this system)
I have been running and managing operating systems for most of my life (mac , linux , unix and windows)
I know how to manage my firewall (and i am using a cisco router as the real FW) all of this things did not change , the only change done to my setup is the STEAM UI
btw
Before any update to the system i read every summery and i do not allow unknown updates on this system
i don't understand the motives behind trying to blame anything else but the poor quality of steam UI (unless you work there :) )
so unless you have some constructive help like (replace dll , install steam version XYZ , a way to revert to another UI version etc )
please stop (i mean no offence here, just in case it comes off as such)
Thanks
*glances at mine*
Son, I'm here WAY more than you have ever been, I see the bigger picture with ease. I don't need to look up or google. I know about the thread. I know that the same 200 or so people have been ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and moaning about it - not thousands of different people. Also remember: statistically speaking they represent a minuscule portion of an already tiny fraction of the Steam user base. Steam has *hundreds of millions* of users. Steam forums see about 1% of those people posting, and of those, that thread is the example of how few really are actually impacted by this.
I know that the client has issues. But what you're talking about *isn't necessarily on steam*.
I "blame" your computer and internet because that's the issue here. My "motive" is because I know that your issues must stem there, because...
If it was Steam, *literally - literally - everyone* would have it. Everyone.
And I'd love for your problems to be fixed. And the best way for that to happen is for you to take things a little more like you haven't figured it out yet and we're trying to help you, than as an attack on your person.
1. what does the amount of time i spend here have to do with how many issues i encountered or how many people i know had the same issues or worse ?
I am a part of whole groups of players (literaly groups i belong to - not groups on steam) who experience the issues from the UI
Play button can't be pressed for no reason , Properties window won't open , Uninstall does nothing etc
2. my 6 year old is on steam more than me , so he has more experience than you or me should listen to him ? because he has the same complaints on his mothers computer
We have other threads on issues in steam
i litteraly signed a petition just a few weeks ago with over 1500 people demanding the old ui on steam because this one melfunctions all the time ( altough i rather they just fix this one)
and i am sure it only has this "few" signups because people don't bother with signing up
The real reason you don't hear more about it is because most people complain directly to tech support instead of the forums , the few that don't have any problems at all are usually the loudest because the ones that have problems don't know how to communicate those problems
Even i had a problem explaining exactly what the problem was , if it was a web interface i could have used google inspect and told you which calls to the server are too slow or don't go out at all , but i don't have the tools to debug this issues right now
Btw most steam users always experience minor problems (like me in the recent past) even in the old UI which we tend to let go of and continue working on steam despite them
3. same software on different systems acts differently , it does not mean the different systems are to blame , but the software is not properly optimized which ... guess what ? means the software is to blame
so no , not "literally everyone will have them ... basic software optimization is necessary for everything even if its just a funky UI
The only thing that will show Valve is hitting them in the moneybag, but as we know that won't happen as gamers aren't organised.
I also am with Zekiran that the vast majority has no issues or is in the realm of "don't care, just give me the play button".
I've actually forgotten about the old UI by now, I'm actually used to it by now. It does help that "home" screen isn't so damn ugly grey anymore, even though there is still enough in the UI that needs options.
Whew! Dozens of people now!
It's typically a vocal minority that make the loudest noise. When you put it into the context of the entire userbase, you realize that not everybody hates the new UI. And you can't include the silent ones into either camp just to inflate the numbers of one or the other.
Are some having issues? Undoubtedly. But let's not blow it out of proportion.
it should tell you two things , first there are a lot of problems and second the problems are severe enough for people to complain about
as i said before
most people either complain directly to tech support which helps no one
or they just live with the problems
most people don't like writing things on the forums because there is always a group of people here ready to defend steam to the death because they are (the actual loud minority) the ones who have no problems with the system
I played a game a few days ago with about 50 other players and the topic of the bad UI came up
Not a single one of them said they have a smooth experience with the UI
Most of them complained how bad and unoptimized it was
when i asked why they don't complain on the forum they told me exactly what i said above
they either tried tech support or they just live with the issues
They also said talking about it in the forums is pointless because all you get are the minority of people running over to defend the UI saying stuff like , Its your system (Even though the only change was an update to steam...)
i swear i did not believe them ... i do now
statistcly its not possible to encounter so many people who have a probelm with the UI and so few who don't and still think there is no problem
and yes dozens of posts on steam + the petition with 1500 signatures ,which i know for a fact would be more if people cared enough ,means there is a deep issue here because moving 1500 people into action over the UI is really hard to do (even if it was DEAD)
i see now this post will not help improve the terrible unoptimized steam UI
too bad , i have 7 years of Q.A experience + 10 years of software development experience and i could have really put those skills to good use helping out if someone in steam cared enough
i guess i can just do like everyone else , stop caring ...
P.S , with the logic i saw above i should be seeing hundreds of thousands of people running to defend steam and how good the UI is , its not the case here, its a minority group who thinks that if their experience is smooth and other people aren't rushing here to complain then the UI is great , thats not the case
the fact is (again) most steam users experience some sort of problem with the UI , they just suck it up and move on
https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/jobs?job_id=14
But I bet this is more a rant than an actual concern for fixing anything.