Valve review censorship

[Masamune]

Why does Valve think they're justified to take away our rights to criticize gaming companies for their own fu*k ups if you won't allow us to review bomb I'm just going file a complaint at authorities or consumers associations.
My country isn't that far away from Belgium we already pressured Valve to shutdown CSGO gambling sites

https://youtu.be/pnBOcLRIW5U

[Brian9824]

引用自 Kelthorian：

引用自 RedLightning：

Or there is some shady activity bumping them up.

I can hardly believe that them removing Mac and linux support was a good thing for the reviews.

Nor that thread.

I still do not trust it.

I mean it's pretty obvious by now that valve were threatened by Epic coming in the market and announcing that there would be NO reviews on their platform so as to make it a "safe space" for devs or more likely publishers.
And with Epic swooping up so many exclusives and doing regular giveaways they most likely felt the need to do something to reassure the big publishers.

I don't trust steam reviews anymore, bloody metacritic feels more authentic now than steam now even with the filter off. Since they've started on the path of appeasing other corporations over their customers it's only a matter of time for things to get worse.

I would recommend to find a 3rd party hobbyist forums with no financial stake in the sale of games or find a critic with similar taste in games to yours and no history of shilling for gaming companies.

It shouldn't be so damned obvious that the platform selling the product cannot claim total transparency and neutrality to how said product is advertised when more sales means an increase in profits FOR VALVE. It's bloody F obvious this is a conflict of interests.

Except for the fact that Valve has published multiple articles on how they have been trying to combat review bombing and have been discussing this for YEARS before EPIC ever even had a store.

So that theory is kinda dead.

Also its 100% transparent and its very clearly listed with a big mark when it occurs. It's also VERY rare and usually happens on older games, so trying to claim its for financial reasons are weak at best....

[RedLightning]

引用自 cinedine：

引用自 RedLightning：

Sad that there is really no OUTLET nor laws to stop this bull from happening.. the people take it in their own hands and are

*silenced by default*

Except your example is a case of a change of the game and not off-topic (unless it's applied to another game).

Off-topic review bombs are caused by:
- new game not being on Steam
- someone with the company said something offensive/stupid
- changes to another game by the same developer (if even ... Tales of the Borderlands anyone?)

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Frankly, most user reviews aren't worth it anyway. I'd be more up in arms about Valve's policy to disregard helpfulness "votes" if you have to many of them in a short time/a single game. Makes it harder to get rid of the meme stuff and such "helpful" reviews like "it's good".

Yea .. I get it now.. however I doubt Valve is looking at each one.. cause if they were .. they would realize .. like you said.. there are just as many off topic 'positive votes' too .

I guess I'm getting kinda Jaded. and after all these years.. its hard to believe what people allow some of these indecent corps to get away with.. and its dismal that they want to flee to safe havens or have one made for them so people do not see them for their true colors.

Thats okay... I already stopped spending money here and have been looking for other avenues to purchase.. The only thing I'll buy in the future on this platform is DLC for the games that I currently have.

I have lost my trust in Valve as a company cause of actions spread over the years .. and I've lost a lot of my trust I had with them as well.

Oh well.. I say .. just wait till tomorrow comes.. gotta love what DRM has allowed as far as some of these companies using it for their own gains screwing longtime customers in the process..

It is good to know that my review will not be considered a bomb.. at least I hope.. considering I doubt Valve looks over all of them.. like they said .. they had a hard time dealing with all the influx of support requests over the years that they keep instilling more limits like the cell phone requirement.

I'm actually surprised that some of what these corps do is even legal....

I wish USA gov at least would make some consumer protection laws for the digital world instead of all this action to collect taxes.

[Tito Shivan]

引用自 brian9824：

引用自 Paratech2008：

Grand theft Auto V is the same. I'm just glad it happened before I purchased it.

Again, 89% of recent reviews are positive. So clearly it doesnt bother people

Steam users also voted GTAV for the 'Labour of Love' award at the Steam Awards.

It's like if there was more people just playing games than posting and being worried about what happens around those games.
Makes one wonder how much of an echo chamber forums can become.

引用自 brian9824：

Except for the fact that Valve has published multiple articles on how they have been trying to combat review bombing and have been discussing this for YEARS before EPIC ever even had a store.

So that theory is kinda dead.

People is mixing review bombs happening hard due to the first Epic exclusives (Metro being pulled, BL3) with the problem having been around for way longer. For example the review bombs for Skyrim and FO4 due to their respective Mod stores.

[Paratech2008]

The thing is when publishers like Rockstar mess with older games like Grand Theft Auto V, some customers can no longer play the game and they can't refund the game either. Publishers are free to "upgrade" a game at any time for any reason and if it breaks the game for a minority of games, tough ...

[Brian9824]

引用自 Tito Shivan：

引用自 brian9824：

Again, 89% of recent reviews are positive. So clearly it doesnt bother people

Steam users also voted GTAV for the 'Labour of Love' award at the Steam Awards.

It's like if there was more people just playing games than posting and being worried about what happens around those games.
Makes one wonder how much of an echo chamber forums can become.

引用自 brian9824：

Except for the fact that Valve has published multiple articles on how they have been trying to combat review bombing and have been discussing this for YEARS before EPIC ever even had a store.

So that theory is kinda dead.

People is mixing review bombs happening hard due to the first Epic exclusives (Metro being pulled, BL3) with the problem having been around for way longer. For example the review bombs for Skyrim and FO4 due to their respective Mod stores.

Heck forget Skyrim, people review bombed over the Horse Armor lol.

[cinedine]

引用自 brian9824：

Heck forget Skyrim, people review bombed over the Horse Armor lol.

Except they didn't.
Back then it was midly amusing and not outrageous.

And fun fact: horse armor sold better than ever after they doubled its price.

[Doomerang]

It's not like anything will be done about it, valve will just remove posts that they find too critical of them anyways.

[cinedine]

引用自 Doomerang：

It's not like anything will be done about it, valve will just remove posts that they find too critical of them anyways.

Prove needed.
Moderators will remove pointless rants. Else there are quite a lot of *threads* the are critical about Valve or Steam.

[Bob the Boomer]

引用自 Anon：

引用自 Spawn of Totoro：

This.

There is also an option to include them:

https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences

Under REVIEW SCORE SETTINGS.

Also, off-topic review were what it excluded. If the reviews are on-topic (about the game) then they are not excluded.

Valve just delete/hides reviews from the public and most people won't this feature enabled so what's the point.
Even discussing this on the forum you suddenly have your thread locked or deleted.
Valve is a soulless company a husk of its former glory days when the next the Steam comes I be jumping ship

[Tito Shivan]

引用自 McGillicutti：

the reality is that obviously people do care

'Some' people.

Funnily I work in the IT industry so there's a sizeable amount of gamers around my daily routine.
One would expect the subjects that pop up here to mirror in more or less degree in real life conversations.

Except not.

Not a word about lootboxes regulation, the Battlefront 2 debacle (just people saying they bought the game on christmas). Not a word about Epic Exclusivity deals (word about them buying there on Christmas or getting their free games). Paid mod workshops, MTXs, Denuvo... Those don't get brought up in day to day gaming conversations (I do hear a lot about people's unboxings in FIFA)

Don't make the mistake to equate the level of gravity issues have over here to the level of gravity they have for people out in the real world.

The internet gets you ever so easily into a biased perception of the world that's hard to take a step back and look at the bigger picture.

[Dead Miside]

Steam is dying, m8. It's in the late Roman Empire stage, you are going to have to look for a new universal game store pretty soon.

[Trundle]

引用自 Junylar：

Steam is dying, m8. It's in the late Roman Empire stage, you are going to have to look for a new universal game store pretty soon.

Citation needed

[Dead Miside]

引用自 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐥𝐞：

引用自 Junylar：

Steam is dying, m8. It's in the late Roman Empire stage, you are going to have to look for a new universal game store pretty soon.

Citation needed

Just look around. New events since the Corgi race, new policies, new enslavement by publishers, new steam design which has been criticized by everyone and which still remains untouched, etc. They just stopped giving a ♥♥♥♥ more than a year ago. One more year and it will be just too painful to use steam anymore.

[KillahInstinct]

引用自 Junylar：

引用自 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐥𝐞：

Citation needed

Just look around. New events since the Corgi race, new policies, new enslavement by publishers, new steam design which has been criticized by everyone and which still remains untouched, etc. They just stopped giving a ♥♥♥♥ more than a year ago. One more year and it will be just too painful to use steam anymore.

That sounds a bit like it's a subjective desire driven citation.

Here's a more factual, accurate based on actual numbers citation: http://www.vgchartz.com/article/442294/steam-sets-new-record-with-188-million-concurrent-users/

[Brian9824]

引用自 Junylar：

引用自 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐥𝐞：

Citation needed

Just look around. New events since the Corgi race, new policies, new enslavement by publishers, new steam design which has been criticized by everyone and which still remains untouched, etc. They just stopped giving a ♥♥♥♥ more than a year ago. One more year and it will be just too painful to use steam anymore.

That doesn't really seem to be backed up by any facts such as that steam hit new records for numbers of active users last month, nor does it change their extreme profits.

People like you have been saying steam has been dying for years....