Remote play together is a lie

[Sinatr]

Remote play together does NOT work as advertised.

Tried those two games below with proudly presented "Remote play together" feature:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/330020
https://store.steampowered.com/app/914710

Here are details. I am the owner of games and I play only keyboard+mouse. I was expecting to play with my friend who will also use keyboard+mouse.

IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

Facts are:

1. One of you MUST play on gamepad. Luckly my friend have one and we could play a bit of "Children of Morta".

2. "Cat quest 2" require HOST to have gamepad, otherwise its coop option is not even enabled. Since I don't have gamepad, I was NOT able to even start this.

My questions:

- Why keyboard+mouse sharing is even mentioned for this feature? I would be totally fine if it would tell "ONLY gamepads are supported" or something similar what we see with VR.. but no, it say "keyboard and mouse" sharing... lie?

- Maybe games above are just 2 out of 1000 who has technical issues.. then why games which does not work with how is it advertised are still "proudly" feature it in the store page?? Who is on Steam side responsible for checking this promise??

[Start_Running]

It might be more to do with how the devs of THOSE particular games handled the implementation.


The thing is , those two games still work. Just not they way you want tyhem to work, probably not the optimal way to work, but they work.

You need to speak to the devs via the forum or email with these issues.

[Your Mom's Oshi]

Sounds like it works just fine to me. You should get a gamepad.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Games with local co-op and Shared/Split Screen Co-op were given the RPT feature in the list automatically when RPT went into beta. It is an opt in/out feature that games devs don't have to use.

https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steamcommunity/public/images/steamworks_docs/english/RemotePlayFeatures_1.png

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/remoteplay

How the game devs handled controlling each characters needs to be updated for it.

[Sinatr]

Originally posted by idontexist:

You should get a gamepad.

My problem is not missing gamepad.

Check steam page and youtube video.

https://store.steampowered.com/remoteplay

You can even share the keyboard and mouse

https://youtu.be/ClPgQMi_h8c?t=44

... or you can share keyboard and mouse

They specifically mentioned "shared mouse/keyboard" is possible. They don't say "one MUST have gamepad". Nowhere. It's "works with gamepad" AND "works with keyboard/mouse".

I don't know how to explain my point better, can't find good enough example. But it's like advetizing Tesla supercharge station WITHOUT telling it ONLY works with electrocars..

[wuddih]

it all depends how the games implemented their local mp. shared k+m does not mean both players can use k+m. it mostly will be one k+m and the other game pad.

the store pages only say that this feature is possible, they dont advertise that you can do whatever the heck you want and nearly all local mp games are controller focused, that is a given.

[Sinatr]

Originally posted by wuddih:

they dont advertise that you can do whatever the heck you want and nearly all local mp games are controller focused, that is a given.

The last point is very good one. I am indeed not used to local multiplayer. Earlier I only play coop games via network (either global or I've used akamachi or something for local network).

Can you explain the word "shared" then? What "shared" should means in your opinion? To me it ONLY means that both players CAN you it. Nothing else.

This is why I expect that ALL games with such feature must allow both players to use at the same time keyboard/mouse.

Again, they could say "one player can even use their keyboard/mouse" or rather "one player MUST use gamepad". I'd be fine with it. But they didn't.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by Sinatr:

Originally posted by wuddih:

they dont advertise that you can do whatever the heck you want and nearly all local mp games are controller focused, that is a given.

The last point is very good one. I am indeed not used to local multiplayer. Earlier I only play coop games via network (either global or I've used akamachi or something for local network).

Can you explain the word "shared" then? What "shared" should means in your opinion? To me it ONLY means that both players CAN you it. Nothing else.

This is why I expect that ALL games with such feature must allow both players to use at the same time keyboard/mouse.

Again, they could say "one player can even use their keyboard/mouse" or rather "one player MUST use gamepad". I'd be fine with it. But they didn't.

Because both players CAN use the keyboard. That is up to the game developers however as they control that functionality. Steam makes it possible if they choose to implement it

[Jur4h1k (the ♥♥♥♥♥♥)]

nice

[Sinatr]

Originally posted by brian9824:

Because both players CAN use the keyboard. That is up to the game developers however as they control that functionality. Steam makes it possible if they choose to implement it

That's true, both players can indeed control host PC mouse/keyboard. So one can play on arrow keys and another on WASD.

So "you can share" should be read as "host can share". This makes it very clear of how this thing works and what to expect.

My mistake was to expecting some miracle, where game would allow both players mouse/keyboard to work differently for different players in game. Thanks all for your time to help me understand that.