Ruivo Nov 3, 2019 @ 7:26am
Incorrectly Tagging Games & Dynamic Categories
I'm quite liking the new library. Rough edges, but with enough customization which I *hope* will come with time, it'll probably be fine.

With dynamic categories, I've tried my hand on sorting my games by tags, and stumbled upon a problem. A myriad of games tagged incorrectly, or with tags that are only correct if you squint at them from a distance.

For example, I tried creating a dynamic category for "Strategy". There you'll find War Thunder, World of Warships, The Long Dark, L.A. Noire, Besiege, Kerbal Space Program, Space Engineers, Robocraft, Day of Defeat, Papers Please, Moonbase Alpha, Portal 2, For Honor, and others.

Under "Action" you'll see Kingdoms and Castles, Cold Waters, The Long Dark again, Supreme Commander again, Wargame Red Dragon, Colony Survival, Age of Empires, Stronghold Crusader, Subnautica, Empire Total War, Sunrider, FALLOUT SHELTER OF ALL THINGS, Recettear, Space Engineers again, Goat Simulator, Portal, Garry's Mod, etc.

Under "Adventure" there's Supreme Commander Forged Alliance, Stellaris, VA-11 Hall-A, Wargame Red Dragon, Homeworld, DDLC, Besiege, Space Engineers again, Papers Please, Moonbase Alpha, Dawn of War, etc.

I think the point is made here. The dynamic categories won't work quite as intended if games are tagged poorly.
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce Nov 3, 2019 @ 7:27am 
Report incorrect tags through their store page.

:qr:
Atom.Little Nov 3, 2019 @ 7:34am 
"I'm quite liking the new library"

Well, good for you, my friend. Personally I hate it.
wuddih Nov 3, 2019 @ 7:38am 
tags are crowdsourced and tags are seen as content descriptive
traditional genre-box-thinking is not applicable for Steam tags.

users add them to games where they see fit.
even if you might think a tag is not applicable to a game, a few hundred others might think otherwise.

if you think a tag does not fit a certain game, you may report it. if others also think a tag is wrong, it may be removed.
Ruivo Nov 3, 2019 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Report incorrect tags through their store page.

:qr:

If cursory searches can bring up so many incorrect tags on games, even the top selling ones, I'd say that this system isn't being as effective as intended.

Unless you want to convince me that CS:GO is a Strategy game. Or a War game, if you want to believe it's supposed to mean "War on Terror". Next thing we'll have Bum Simulator tagged as War because of the "War on Poverty" .

Why not have curators do the tagging? or at least greenlight the most appropriate ones once users sorted themselves out.


Originally posted by wuddih:
tags are crowdsourced and tags are seen as content descriptive
traditional genre-box-thinking is not applicable for Steam tags.

users add them to games where they see fit.
even if you might think a tag is not applicable to a game, a few hundred others might think otherwise.

if you think a tag does not fit a certain game, you may report it. if others also think a tag is wrong, it may be removed.

What good is a descriptor if it means different things to different games? I understand the use of content descriptive tags such as "real-time with pause" describing a game which runs in real time, but actions can be made or queued while in pause. But using "Strategy" as a descriptor for "games in which you need to should rub the neurons a bit before proceeding", "Action" as a descriptor for "games in which things happen", or "Adventure" as a descriptor for "games in which things happen in succession".

I don't believe I'm wrong in thinking this is a misuse of a potentially helpful system, no salt intended.
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Date Posted: Nov 3, 2019 @ 7:26am
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