Spyro™ Reignited Trilogy

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We got a little nugget of news about what is likely the next Spyro and thought I'd share it here if you missed it. It's nothing big, but still good to hear something about it. :spyro:

"Despite [Toys for Bob] breaking apart from the Microsoft-owned studio Activision back in 2023, it has continued to work closely with Xbox, and is currently collaborating with the company on an upcoming project that many speculate to be Spyro the Dragon 4. Though Yan said he "can't spill the beans just yet" on the upcoming project, he assured fans that development is going well.

"I will say that we're very much in the thick of development. The team is very thrilled about how the experience is shaping up. This game is big and ambitious and pushes our craft to new heights."

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/spyro-and-crash-bandicoot-reboot-studio-toys-for-bob-wants-to-bring-back-banjo-kazooie-next/1100-6530795/#comments-block-33633737
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Ezir Apr 11 @ 11:58am 
Hope we will get more, though honestly would like if we got Legend of Spyro remake... I know, lots people hate it since it shifted the tone to be more mature, but storywise it wasn't bad and music was beautiful in it. Recently replayed all 3 from A new beginning to Dawn of the dragon, and they are really not as bad as people make them out to be. The endings especially of Eternal Night and Dawn of the dragon made me tear up, the vocal credits songs were extremely impressive. Enough to land a place on my spotify list.

Why a remake? Because it would fix the worst of the games while keeping the best. It's impossible to fix narrative well, but it is very possible to fix controls and gameplay when remaking. Especially Dawn of the dragon holds quite well and its enjoyable and fun (apart from the lack of enemy lock-on target and flight being implemented not so great).

In Legends, I found the whole story to be beautiful, it explores more mature themes like sacrifice, abuse, manipulation, war etc. It reminded me how Sonic went from this goofy classic theme to a more mature theme as well, which made it to be very popular with comics, tv series, movies and so on. I see no reason why Spyro couldn't go this direction and become less kiddy-cute. Don't get me wrong, cute is nice but Skylanders tried that and while the games were fun, it was 1-2% Spyro and 98% characters just to sell toys, a well thought cash-grab which is an impressive marketing scheme.

Hopefully Legends remake will happen one day, since it has Cynder and she is an awesome and well liked character.
NBOX21 Apr 13 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by Ezir:
Hope we will get more, though honestly would like if we got Legend of Spyro remake... I know, lots people hate it since it shifted the tone to be more mature, but storywise it wasn't bad and music was beautiful in it. Recently replayed all 3 from A new beginning to Dawn of the dragon, and they are really not as bad as people make them out to be. The endings especially of Eternal Night and Dawn of the dragon made me tear up, the vocal credits songs were extremely impressive. Enough to land a place on my spotify list.
Personally, I absolutely hated the first two Legend of Spyro games (A New Beginning and The Eternal Night), not because it had a much darker or more mature tone compared to previous games, but because I found the gameplay in those games to be very boring. I thought the combat was quite dull and basic, plus every single level is completely linear with zero exploration and basic platforming which goes against the very thing I enjoy Spyro games for to begin with.

I also disagree with the story aspect of these games - other than the early game and ending of A New Beginning, I found them very forgettable with barely anything going on. Spyro 3 had a better story than these games did and it wasn't even the main focus.

In contrast, Dawn of the Dragon was the only game in the trilogy I actually liked and would consider to be underappreciated for the reasons you mentioned. I really loved its story and characters, the ending felt like the perfect sendoff for the entire franchise and Guide You Home was a great track to play during the credits that represents the game's narrative perfectly.

Gameplay wise, it also fixed every single issue I had with the games Krome Studios made. Most levels actually had exploration like the old games with secrets to find, you can replay your favourite parts of the game and/or find anything you missed with a level select feature (baffling that Eternal Night didn't have this given it had collectables) and the combat was a lot more fleshed out and interesting.
Ezir Apr 13 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by NBOX21:
Personally, I absolutely hated the first two Legend of Spyro games (A New Beginning and The Eternal Night), not because it had a much darker or more mature tone compared to previous games, but because I found the gameplay in those games to be very boring. I thought the combat was quite dull and basic, plus every single level is completely linear with zero exploration and basic platforming which goes against the very thing I enjoy Spyro games for to begin with.

I also disagree with the story aspect of these games - other than the early game and ending of A New Beginning, I found them very forgettable with barely anything going on. Spyro 3 had a better story than these games did and it wasn't even the main focus.

In contrast, Dawn of the Dragon was the only game in the trilogy I actually liked and would consider to be underappreciated for the reasons you mentioned. I really loved its story and characters, the ending felt like the perfect sendoff for the entire franchise and Guide You Home was a great track to play during the credits that represents the game's narrative perfectly.

Gameplay wise, it also fixed every single issue I had with the games Krome Studios made. Most levels actually had exploration like the old games with secrets to find, you can replay your favourite parts of the game and/or find anything you missed with a level select feature (baffling that Eternal Night didn't have this given it had collectables) and the combat was a lot more fleshed out and interesting.

I do fully agree with you, the main issue is definitely gameplay of the games, even Dawn of the Dragon suffers from invisible wind preventing players from flying higher than intended or lack of lock-on enemy feature.

All of those issues are easy to fix with a remake, because it would be possible to make single unified combat system (an enhanced version of Dawn of the Dragon combat) to be present across all remade titles. The game would definitely also benefit from enhanced enemy AI which is possible nowadays technology as well.

Graphic enhancements? That's a given, considering Reignited trillogy, they might as well use the reignited Spyro character design to be used in A New Beginning and Eternal Nights remake, which saves them tons of work (no need to re-invent a working wheel again). The 3d models of Cynder people made for reignited? Work already done for them. Cynder is just a reskin in Dawn of the Dragon anyway, she plays exactly the same

I believe they could even use most of the assets that were already made for Reignited for map design as well, because it's the kind of style that doesn't age, which would mean all they would need to do is add just some missing assets + enhance the old level design to make them less linear and maybe build upon the cutscenes a bit for easier story flow. Play aroun with lightning and shaders a bit and the darker / gloomier atmosphere is easy to achieve.

Story? Dawn of the Dragon is perfect, maybe they could flesh out some tiny parts and A New Beginning and Eternal Nights definitely have a core direction, which could also be enhanced a bit with a remake.

Point is, making a Legend of Spyro remake wouldn't be some sort of impossible effort for any game studio, even a small one. In reality an indie gamedev could do it using Unity + Playmaker, if Activision weren't so fond of slapping DMCA at fanbase left and right.

Wish Toys for Bob would pick it up since they are independent now, it's very doable within their current capabilities and there is a fanbase. The way I always see it, OG Spyro is like Classic Sonic, and LOS is more like Modern Sonic and we all know that a more modern version exploring more mature themes of sacrifice, war, abuse etc, is what opens a market for an aging audience. Sonic went this road and it didn't suffer for it.
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JaroDK12 Apr 17 @ 11:37pm 
Hope Spyro 4 is coming, seeing how remastered trilogy was awesome and so was Crash 4, new game in similar style to remasters with new spin on things like Crash 4, would be great. Hopefully it didn’t get cancelled like Crash 5, unless the secret game was Crash 5 then it’ll suck for all 3D platformers.
>M@tEo$< Apr 17 @ 11:45pm 
Heard Banjo-Kazooie is getting the treatment
Rockpaw Apr 18 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by >M@tEo$<:
Heard Banjo-Kazooie is getting the treatment
Not officially. They just said it would be nice to work on a Banjo-Kazooie game/remake. So maybe it will be the next one?
Ezir Apr 19 @ 7:57am 
Yep, in 2024 they confirmed during live they in fact are NOT working on it, they have intention and would love to. Since Toys For Bob are indie studio now, I think they won't be able to work on two projects at same time for the time being (Unless next game sells well, and it might be Spyro 4). Hopefully they grow, they have their niche in the market, which is remakes of platform games.
Originally posted by >M@tEo$<:
Heard Banjo-Kazooie is getting the treatment

Yeh, they mention that in the article I linked...

"In a recent interview with CanadianGuyEh--which was then reported by Windows Central--Yan discussed Toys for Bob's upcoming projects. On top of seemingly teasing a new entry in the Spyro the Dragon series, Yan expressed the team's desire to work with Xbox on bringing back the dynamic bird and bear duo, Banjo-Kazooie.

"One company we'd like to work with is one we're already working with--Team Xbox! They've been a great partner and they also have a very interesting roster of characters that Toys for Bob could have a lot of fun with. The honey bear is the first one that comes to mind--I think we can all agree Banjo's been hibernating long enough, right?" Yan said."
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