Spyro™ Reignited Trilogy
I found Spyro 2 worse than Spyro 1
Just finished the second game and although the game was enjoyable, i enjoyed way more with the first one. Specially because it was more challenging

When you start Spyro 2 you can notice they have added a lot of tutorial messages. Messages like "Press A on the air to glide" when you are on the 3rd or 4th level lol. If im in this level is because I know that.

The minigames are extremely easy and even the flying levels are very easy. The only part that I found harder was the bosses, specially the second one (gulp?) . The rest in general is very very easy. Spyro the dragon was easy, but this second game is too easy and that wasn't exciting.

I remember those mf with eggs you had to chase on the first game, they were annoying, but in this second game there is nothing like that. There are a pair of chases but way easier. Same for flying levels.


I hope the 3rd game is more like Spyro 1. For the moment, my ranking is:

1- Spyro the dragon
2 - Spyro 2: Ripto's rage

We are very lucky for having such a great trilogy with this pixar graphics and in just one game
Отредактировано ni0g0s; 14 апр. 2023 г. в 5:37
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glad you like the trilogy so far! good luck with the third game!

original PSX games are very different in their feeling and collectathon mechanics. each game is trying to do something different:
> first game is a black sheep with original idea
> second game is more safe and simple
> third game is bigger than second one and cranks mini-games up to eleven

Crash Bandicoot is exactly the same in that regard

it is not, I dunno, Megaman 1-6 which literally the same game only with different robo-masters (and first game having only 6 instead of 8)

Автор сообщения: ni0g0s
When you start Spyro 2 you can notice they have added a lot of tutorial messages. Messages like "Press A on the air to glide" when you are on the 3rd or 4th level lol. If im in this level is because I know that.
developers had the option to either preserve the games as they were (each game is its own thing) or try to unify the games under one design-doc

- and they went with the first option, feeling it will be more faithful to the original games and their legacy. each game has its own quirks and developers saved them intact. those tutorial messages were in PSX version of second game and were absent in PSX of first game

but not only that. for example the second game on PSX had unlockable super-flame (for 100% the game) and the player could restart the game from zero but still having that super-flame. Reignated Trilogy has that mechanics and that super-flame thing works ONLY in second title


Автор сообщения: ni0g0s
The minigames are extremely easy and even the flying levels are very easy.
a common concern back in the days that Spyro 1 was too cryptic and challenging (Tree Tops...) so for Spyro 2 developers simplified the things and introduced the system that lowers the difficulty down if player struggle to finish a certain segment

Автор сообщения: ni0g0s
The only part that I found harder was the bosses, specially the second one (gulp?) .
interestingly enough Gulp was THE EASIEST boss in PSX Spyro-2, but on Remake developers - for absolutely no reasons - boost his difficulty tenfold: he charges faster, his energy orbs shoot faster, have wide AoE and hard to dodge. my wildguess that due to faulty programming this battle always starts at maximum difficulty (see adjusting difficulty) and never goes down

the sudden swift of difficulty was compared by one reviewer to
> ....felt like I'd suddenly been dropped into Dark Souls in the middle of a game of tiddlywinks

https://www.eurogamer.net/spyro-reignited-trilogy-review-a-gorgeous-and-faithful-remaster-that-sometimes-gives-more-nostalgia-than-bargained-for

Автор сообщения: ni0g0s
I hope the 3rd game is more than Spyro 1. For the moment, my ranking is:
it closer to Spyro-3 imho but that's up for debate. don't change my mind

Автор сообщения: ni0g0s
We are very lucky for having such a great trilogy with this pixar graphics and in just one game
very true!
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Автор сообщения: Shocker
What does motorbike racing have to do with Crash gameplay? Have you ever heard about Crash Team Racing?
Yes I have. It's a racing game that wasn't even trying to be like the main platforming trilogy.
What does hog riding and polar bear riding have to do with Crash gameplay?
Both of these types of levels (as well as riding Pura in Warped) still have you jumping over pits and avoiding hazards just like the regular levels, except you're constantly moving forward kind of like how the boulder levels constantly push you towards the camera, making them variations of the core gameplay.
By the way you are wrong about Spyro 3's mini games being optional. You need 100 Eggs which is just to get to the Sorceress, and even that's not the end of the game. You need all 150 eggs to the Super Bonus Round level, fight hew again and get the full ending. Even if you don't want to count the Super Bonus Round, you still need 66% of the eggs to get the first ending.
Отредактировано Shocker; 1 мая. 2023 г. в 4:51
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Автор сообщения: NBOX21
Both of these types of levels (as well as riding Pura in Warped) still have you jumping over pits and avoiding hazards just like the regular levels, except you're constantly moving forward kind of like how the boulder levels constantly push you towards the camera, making them variations of the core gameplay.
By the way you are wrong about Spyro 3's mini games being optional. You need 100 Eggs which is just to get to the Sorceress, and even that's not the end of the game. You need all 150 eggs to the Super Bonus Round level, fight hew again and get the full ending. Even if you don't want to count the Super Bonus Round, you still need 66% of the eggs to get the first ending.
By ending, I meant any form of ending that gives you the credits afterwards, which is what the regular ending does. When just going for that ending, most of Spyro 3's mini-games are fully optional as you can still reach 100 dragon eggs without ever touching the boxing, submarine or skateboarding mini-games. In fact, out of the 146 dragon eggs you can get in order to reach 100, only about 40 of them require the use of extra vehicles or other alternate play styles and even then, you can usually choose which ones you want to do or which ones to skip.
my rank, 1, 3, 2
2 is too hard for me, and too many mission
yes i not yet 100% on 1 and 3,
both near 90% then i stuck, will continue 2 after this
only got play demo on CB3 when PS 1, full game never play
Spyro 1 is one of the most boring games I ever played. Spyro 2 and 3 are huge improvements over 1 in every way.
Автор сообщения: ni0g0s
The minigames are extremely easy
Wha..? The minigames in Spyro 2 are obnoxious, tedious, and unfun (The Stingray Riding Minigame literally pulls gameplay from Superman 64), and are a big part of why I couldn't be bothered continuing to play once I was done with the first game.

If OP thinks Spyro 2 is "too easy" then they should probably stick to something more their speed like Takeshi's Challenge or I Want To Be The Guy.
Отредактировано Smugass Braixen-Chan; 19 мая. 2023 г. в 0:55
Автор сообщения: Smugass Braixen-Chan
Автор сообщения: ni0g0s
The minigames are extremely easy
Wha..? The minigames in Spyro 2 are obnoxious, tedious, and unfun (The Stingray Riding Minigame literally pulls gameplay from Superman 64), and are a big part of why I couldn't be bothered continuing to play once I was done with the first game.

If OP thinks Spyro 2 is "too easy" then they should probably stick to something more their speed like Takeshi's Challenge or I Want To Be The Guy.
Tedious and unfun? Speak for yourself.
Автор сообщения: Shocker
Автор сообщения: Smugass Braixen-Chan
Wha..? The minigames in Spyro 2 are obnoxious, tedious, and unfun (The Stingray Riding Minigame literally pulls gameplay from Superman 64), and are a big part of why I couldn't be bothered continuing to play once I was done with the first game.

If OP thinks Spyro 2 is "too easy" then they should probably stick to something more their speed like Takeshi's Challenge or I Want To Be The Guy.
Tedious and unfun? Speak for yourself.
I mean... If you enjoy flying through rings, and playing Temple Run in your 3D Platformer, knock yourself out. I would rather just stick to the 3D Platforming. That's why I bought a 3D Platformer.

If I wanted to play a whole bunch of mini-games, I'd play Mario Party. My Nintendo Switch is right there.

When I want to run and glide around as a wyrmling; being trapped inside a Trolley until I beat an arbitrary mini-game is Tedious and Unfun. Not sure why honesty bothers you so much.
Автор сообщения: Smugass Braixen-Chan
Автор сообщения: Shocker
Tedious and unfun? Speak for yourself.
I mean... If you enjoy flying through rings, and playing Temple Run in your 3D Platformer, knock yourself out. I would rather just stick to the 3D Platforming. That's why I bought a 3D Platformer.

If I wanted to play a whole bunch of mini-games, I'd play Mario Party. My Nintendo Switch is right there.

When I want to run and glide around as a wyrmling; being trapped inside a Trolley until I beat an arbitrary mini-game is Tedious and Unfun. Not sure why honesty bothers you so much.
Like I said before, speak for yourself. Spyro is not a traditional platformer. It's a collect-a-thon. The platforming in Spyro 1 was never a challenge, and the bosses were terrible. I love the mini games in Spyro 2 and 3. The majority of them is fun and entertaining. The skateboarding, the crystal popcorn challenge, the hockey, and the list goes on. Without them the games are empty and boring.
Отредактировано Shocker; 19 мая. 2023 г. в 6:25
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Автор сообщения: Smugass Braixen-Chan
I mean... If you enjoy flying through rings, and playing Temple Run in your 3D Platformer, knock yourself out. I would rather just stick to the 3D Platforming. That's why I bought a 3D Platformer.

If I wanted to play a whole bunch of mini-games, I'd play Mario Party. My Nintendo Switch is right there.

When I want to run and glide around as a wyrmling; being trapped inside a Trolley until I beat an arbitrary mini-game is Tedious and Unfun. Not sure why honesty bothers you so much.
Like I said before, speak for yourself. Spyro is not a traditional platformer. It's a collect-a-thon. The platforming in Spyro 1 was never a challenge, and the bosses were terrible. I love the minigames in Spyro 2 and 3. The majority of them is fun and entertaining. The skateboarding, the crystal popcorn challenge, the hockey, and the list goes on. Without them the games are empty and boring.
What ever you say, dude. If you reckon the Mini-Games were good, as far as Mini-Games go. I'll take your word for it.

The thing is that I don't WANT to play Skateboard or Hockey or Go-Karts what ever. I want to play Spyro the Dragon. And the fact that the developer tries to force me to play something else puts a very bad taste in my mouth that ruins the entire experience. (Especially since you need to 100% the games in order to see the "true" ending)
Автор сообщения: Smugass Braixen-Chan
Автор сообщения: ni0g0s
The minigames are extremely easy
Wha..? The minigames in Spyro 2 are obnoxious, tedious, and unfun (The Stingray Riding Minigame literally pulls gameplay from Superman 64), and are a big part of why I couldn't be bothered continuing to play once I was done with the first game.

If OP thinks Spyro 2 is "too easy" then they should probably stick to something more their speed like Takeshi's Challenge or I Want To Be The Guy.
Yes, they are very easy. In the first game were harder and in other platformers even more. You use to complete them on the first try. They give you a lot of time and space to succeed
Отредактировано ni0g0s; 19 мая. 2023 г. в 6:10
Автор сообщения: Smugass Braixen-Chan
Автор сообщения: Shocker
Like I said before, speak for yourself. Spyro is not a traditional platformer. It's a collect-a-thon. The platforming in Spyro 1 was never a challenge, and the bosses were terrible. I love the minigames in Spyro 2 and 3. The majority of them is fun and entertaining. The skateboarding, the crystal popcorn challenge, the hockey, and the list goes on. Without them the games are empty and boring.
What ever you say, dude. If you reckon the Mini-Games were good, as far as Mini-Games go. I'll take your word for it.

The thing is that I don't WANT to play Skateboard or Hockey or Go-Karts what ever. I want to play Spyro the Dragon. And the fact that the developer tries to force me to play something else puts a very bad taste in my mouth that ruins the entire experience. (Especially since you need to 100% the games in order to see the "true" ending)
There are no go-karts in Spyro. If all you want to do is to go on empty boring levels, kill a bunch of enemies, and collect gems, than play Spyro 1. I like diversity, and interesting gameplay.
Автор сообщения: Shocker
There are no go-karts in Spyro.
Could have fooled me. I'm pretty sure I've seen screenshots of Spyro riding around in a kart and assumed it was from Spyro 3 because that's the point where Insomniac completely lost the plot with the "Random ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ go!" Half the time you aren't even playing as Spyro in that game.

Автор сообщения: Shocker
If all you want to do is to go on empty boring levels, kill a bunch of enemies, and collect gems, than play Spyro 1.
That is literally the core gameplay of most Spyro games. Why even play Spyro at this point?

Автор сообщения: Shocker
I like diversity, and interesting gameplay.
Video-Games can have Diverse and Interesting gameplay without turning into a completely different game every 5 minutes. (See: Almost every half-decent game that wasn't made by Insomniac ever made)

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The more I think about it, the more I see Insomniac selling off Spyro (Apparently because they couldn't figure out how to give Spyro a gun (even though Gulp has 2 of them)) as the best thing that ever happened for the Franchise.
Отредактировано Smugass Braixen-Chan; 19 мая. 2023 г. в 8:12
Автор сообщения: Smugass Braixen-Chan
"Random ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ go!"
ha! the best description of Spyro-3 in nutshell!

my favorite part is a yeti boxing match. at this point the game is as far away from the core Spyro gameplay as possible. suddenly you play Punch Out, enjoy!
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Автор сообщения: Shocker
There are no go-karts in Spyro.
Could have fooled me. I'm pretty sure I've seen screenshots of Spyro riding around in a kart and assumed it was from Spyro 3 because that's the point where Insomniac completely lost the plot with the "Random ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ go!" Half the time you aren't even playing as Spyro in that game.

Автор сообщения: Shocker
If all you want to do is to go on empty boring levels, kill a bunch of enemies, and collect gems, than play Spyro 1.
That is literally the core gameplay of most Spyro games. Why even play Spyro at this point?

Автор сообщения: Shocker
I like diversity, and interesting gameplay.
Video-Games can have Diverse and Interesting gameplay without turning into a completely different game every 5 minutes. (See: Almost every half-decent game that wasn't made by Insomniac ever made)

--

The more I think about it, the more I see Insomniac selling off Spyro (Apparently because they couldn't figure out how to give Spyro a gun (even though Gulp has 2 of them)) as the best thing that ever happened for the Franchise.
I bet you never even played Spyro 3, yet you run your mouth that it's bad. What do you mean most Spyro games? You do run around and collect stuff while defeating enemies in the entire trilogy. Spyro 1 is the only one that is a boring snore fest without anything interesting going on.
Автор сообщения: Shocker
I bet you never even played Spyro 3, yet you run your mouth that it's bad.
No I'm not. You're just getting offended by me saying that a game that actually focused on the core gameplay would be better.

Why TF do you care that I stopped playing Reignited because of the Mini-Games so much, anyway? If you cannot handle hearing ANY form of criticism, then get off the internet.

It's not my job to lick the feet of things you like.
Отредактировано Smugass Braixen-Chan; 19 мая. 2023 г. в 9:23
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