Games as in-depth, complex, and open to choices like Dwarf Fortress

[Some White Flour Fanatic]

I've been trying to find games similar to Dwarf Fortress within its complexity and ability to do anything you can think of. The only games I have found to provide such a need was CDDA, rimworld with mods, garrys mod with mods, Unreal World, Skyrim Franchise, Fallout Franchise, Caves Of Qud, Terraria with mods, and Minecraft with mods. Can anyone else give the names of games that I am missing or have played mods that enabled an ability to basically do anything you can think of?

[Jerma Rat]

Kenshi goes pretty indepth, especially in endgame.

[WizeDraco]

引用自 Free_：

Kenshi goes pretty indepth, especially in endgame.

well dang dude ya beat me to the punch

[Some White Flour Fanatic]

引用自 Free_：

Kenshi goes pretty indepth, especially in endgame.

I thought of kenshi but it feels really empty when i played it. Nothing is that structured in the things that provide gameplay wise. Ex: you arent able to take over a town on your own with your colony/group

[LIMP BISQUICK]

idk I was with you when you mentioned things like CDDA but there were some other games you listed that kinda expands the list dramatically.. I start thinking about games like subnautica. I believe you could look into mods to experiment and add difficulty. Anyways, that's a good game if you haven't played it yet.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/264710/Subnautica/

Starsector https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acqpulP1hLo&t=1046s

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1162750/Songs_of_Syx/
It's still in EA and honestly may not be what you're looking for, although I thought it's a game worth keeping an eye on.

Space station 13, never played it.
project zomboid has some similarities with CDDA, not as deep tho.
factorio & ONI has plenty of depth.
Heard some good things about Unreal World, KeeperRL, NeoScavenger.

Some other stuff out there that's more base-building/simulation but I'm kind of overloading here. lol

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Dominions 5

[MTBear]

DF is pretty hard to beat... I mean the things the game can do are ridiculous.

[Some White Flour Fanatic]

引用自 Jibbles：

idk I was with you when you mentioned things like CDDA but there were some other games you listed that kinda expands the list dramatically.. I start thinking about games like subnautica. I believe you could look into mods to experiment and add difficulty. Anyways, that's a good game if you haven't played it yet.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/264710/Subnautica/

Starsector https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acqpulP1hLo&t=1046s

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1162750/Songs_of_Syx/
It's still in EA and honestly may not be what you're looking for, although I thought it's a game worth keeping an eye on.

Space station 13, never played it.
project zomboid has some similarities with CDDA, not as deep tho.
factorio & ONI has plenty of depth.
Heard some good things about Unreal World, KeeperRL, NeoScavenger.

Some other stuff out there that's more base-building/simulation but I'm kind of overloading here. lol

Oh ♥♥♥♥ thank you, i forgot to put neo scavenger. But I never heard of KeeperRL before (:

[Some White Flour Fanatic]

引用自 MTBear：

DF is pretty hard to beat... I mean the things the game can do are ridiculous.

True, but there are some potential games out there that are almost able to reach the snowy caps of the Dwarf Fortress Mountain through equipment like mods or even with their own two feet. Im just trying to find a list of ambitious games that deserve a spotlight for their complexity, things that are very worth supporting, in case others also want or are looking for such games.

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引用自 Some Shifty Black Man：

引用自 MTBear：

DF is pretty hard to beat... I mean the things the game can do are ridiculous.

True, but there are some potential games out there that are almost able to reach the snowy caps of the Dwarf Fortress Mountain through equipment like mods or even with their own two feet. Im just trying to find a list of ambitious games that deserve a spotlight for their complexity, things that are very worth supporting, in case others also want or are looking for such games.

if we are taking mods into account then it's redstone and wiremod for minecraft and gmod. they turn their respective games into turing machines essentially. factorio is turing complete by default. you might also be interested in eve online and/or aurora 4x. also kerbal space program. they are games. if you find any of the aforementioned by any stretch of the word limiting in terms of freedom as far as user input goes, then i think what you really need is a c++ compiler. but dwarf fortress isn't primarily about that. it's part fantasy world simulation, part digital improvisational performance art, like a single-threaded tolkienesque vaudeville, with occasional interaction. it's less about what you experience as a player and more about what happened before you.

[pmrn]

Rimworld and Oxygen Not Included - those are the big two. Direct descendants.

[JAGIELSKI]

Prison Architect may be of interest, as well as Factorio, Dyson Sphere Program, and similar.

[The Trashman]

引用自 moonchild：

you might also be interested in eve online and/or aurora 4x

+1 for Aurora 4x. Its wiki describes it as "Difficult to learn and slow to play, this is a game well-suited to people who like deep strategy and don't mind poor UI"

The creator of Dwarf Fortress also made a game called Liberal Crime Squad, available for free. Here's the wiki[lcs.wikidot.com] (I'd recommend the 2017+ version). You commit crimes to sway public opinion, and as your heat and notoriety build you go from SWAT teams raiding your base to tanks, bombers and Seal Team 6 knocking down your doors. It's all pretty tongue in cheek, but there's a lot of depth and variety in things you can do beyond straight combat, like seducing strangers to act as sleeper agents to kidnapping and interrogating Conservative Scum or running a Liberal newspaper. Worth checking out, I think

[Teemo]

引用自 Some Shifty Black Man：

I've been trying to find games similar to Dwarf Fortress within its complexity and ability to do anything you can think of. The only games I have found to provide such a need was CDDA, rimworld with mods, garrys mod with mods, Unreal World, Skyrim Franchise, Fallout Franchise, Caves Of Qud, Terraria with mods, and Minecraft with mods. Can anyone else give the names of games that I am missing or have played mods that enabled an ability to basically do anything you can think of?

It's not just the ability to do anything you can think of that makes DF great though, it's the combination of that with the insane realism and procedurally generated content and depth of detail that all combine together. You won't find any other game anywhere that has all 4 of those bullet points anywhere close to what DF gives. The fact that DF is adding native graphics and a real user interface will keep it on track for being the best computer game ever developed.

[Em θΔ&]

I'd definitely recommend Space Station 13. Imagine dwarf fortress, but it was started as an atmosphere simulator and each dwarf is a player. Some of these players get to be antagonists, where their entire goal is to cause problems for the rest of the crew.

Servers can vary a lot, but all of them have a ton of depth. I'll talk about Goonstation specifically, because it's what I know the most about. Some of its features include:
- A chemistry system for making medicines, poisons, and whatever else
- Individual organs and limbs which can be cut out and replaced with different ones, such as replacing your leg with a monkey's or stapling an energy sword to your arm stump.
- A full DOS-style terminal system, including a programming language and a packet system for some machines to communicate over wires (which, of course, you can hijack)
- A teleporter that requires math to convert coordinates into the teleporter coordinates, with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of content to explore including an ARG

A ton of the fun of the game comes from seeing the dumb things people manage to do and the stories that come out of it, much like dwarf fortress

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Mount and Blade Warband ,CK2 and Kenshi