Why so highly rated?

[Evelo]

Probably going to be executed for this, but the amount of non-skin based micro-transactions is extremely off putting for this game. If you see this level of micro-transactions in a different game people would likely ridicule it heavily. What am I missing? The game is fun I will admit but just the whole monkey bucks system is really gross to me.

[Badstormer]

Honestly, monkey money is prohibitively expensive to buy with actual cash - it seems like the devs literally want to incentivize earning it through gameplay with the prices I'm seeing for buying it directly.

You'll be drowning in it before you know it if you just play the game normally.

The only true pay-to-win feature is double cash, which can't be activated in any competitive mode anyway, so you won't be getting unique medals even if you shell out the nineteen bucks it costs.

[Spawnling]

引用自 Evelo：

Well my friend just refuses to play it because "If you play at the optimal difficulty you won't make any money" Which is when you barely win and end up losing most of the time. I can't seem to convince him otherwise which is a shame. It's a fun game. Thanks for the input everyone.

The game is not a roguelike and the lower difficulties exist to help you find optimal/good positioning for Primary/Military/Magic Monkeys and strategies to kill moabs.
Once you played all of these your winrate for Impoppable will go drastically up.

That said, I don't think that someone does anything optimal, if they lose most of their games...

Hope that helps.

(PS: Apopolypse and Half-Cash can be harder than Chimps, so don't waste too much time on them when you try to get MM.)

[Shruburbs]

The micro transactions in this game are completely optional and you can play to the entire game black border every map and complete every boss with spending a single peso + you earn monkey money very fast that buying monkey money with real money is basicaly worthless

[Erwin_Von_Braun]

引用自 Evelo：

Probably going to be executed for this, but the amount of non-skin based micro-transactions is extremely off putting for this game. If you see this level of micro-transactions in a different game people would likely ridicule it heavily. What am I missing? The game is fun I will admit but just the whole monkey bucks system is really gross to me.

I haven't spent a single penny on this game since purchasing it for £0.86, with well over 1000 hours.
The micro transactions are only off putting if you let them.

[Erwin_Von_Braun]

引用自 shurb：

The micro transactions in this game are completely optional and you can play to the entire game black border every map and complete every boss with spending a single peso + you earn monkey money very fast that buying monkey money with real money is basicaly worthless

This^

[james.w.knapp.64]

引用自 MANONZ S：

the game is actually balanced and you dont need to buy stuff to win,just be good at the game

The only thing I've every bought was the Snowman Pat with Real Money. I just play the game and over the course of 18 months I know have all heros, all MK points, and over 600k Monkey Money so yeah there are lots of Micro transactions but you don't need to buy them at all to be top of the line competative.

[Muu]

I bet if Ninja Kiwi created statistics of how many people play boss battles with how many of those people use Double Cash, compared to other game modes, you'd see a discrepancy.

It's not that I can't beat bosses. I've beaten elite ranked bosses, including in co-op with my friends who I had to teach to do it.
It's that it's 120 rounds of gruelling micro-intensive effort.

Why am I saying all this? Because it's easier if you don't play ranked and you still get some rewards. So, people can buy Double Cash which costs a good chunk of real-world money and that'll now make every single boss battle ever a lot less stressful because even if you start with an insta-monkey it's all about getting that early game cash to get a snowball rolling.
Yeah, I'm just frustrated that Double Cash exists at all, it feels like Boss Battles and Apopalypse are built around it (you get no round end bonus, so everything is 2x) and you can't take it easy without it. You'll see people on youtube making guides where they just assume people have Double Cash.

At the end of the day I just have to tell myself that it doesn't matter if other people have it easier, I wouldn't want the game to be easier, I just want bosses to be easier to play during my limited free time. The way Contested Territory does it is great because it's only 1/2 tiers.

[.exe]

引用自 Muu：

I bet if Ninja Kiwi created statistics of how many people play boss battles with how many of those people use Double Cash, compared to other game modes, you'd see a discrepancy.

It's not that I can't beat bosses. I've beaten elite ranked bosses, including in co-op with my friends who I had to teach to do it.
It's that it's 120 rounds of gruelling micro-intensive effort.

Why am I saying all this? Because it's easier if you don't play ranked and you still get some rewards. So, people can buy Double Cash which costs a good chunk of real-world money and that'll now make every single boss battle ever a lot less stressful because even if you start with an insta-monkey it's all about getting that early game cash to get a snowball rolling.
Yeah, I'm just frustrated that Double Cash exists at all, it feels like Boss Battles and Apopalypse are built around it (you get no round end bonus, so everything is 2x) and you can't take it easy without it. You'll see people on youtube making guides where they just assume people have Double Cash.

At the end of the day I just have to tell myself that it doesn't matter if other people have it easier, I wouldn't want the game to be easier, I just want bosses to be easier to play during my limited free time. The way Contested Territory does it is great because it's only 1/2 tiers.

Shocking people still boohoo about double cash it doesn't effect any sort of ranked mode

[76561198088409502]

i mean i agree, im againts of all ingame microtransactions
but with btd6 its nowhere near as parasitic as it is in other games, NK isnt walling mountains of content and progression behind paywalls
but i do hope people will stand up againts microtransactions when they DO become more parasitic, i pray to god NK wont let it happen

[Bobby]

problem?

[zab]

buying things in this game is like buying tf2 weapons from the in game store

[fractalgem]

引用自 KingKickAss：

I swear people who complain about monkey bucks just saw that there's a currency in the game, closed it and then went to the forums to complain about it.
You do know that its not a premium currency right? Its literally the reward you get for playing/winning the game, and players just have the option of spending money for it available to them if they feel like it.

Do you just find games that have any sort of progress/unlockable/incentive to win to be gross or?

I, for one, tend to find micro transactions distasteful on general principles. I can absolutely imagine someone finding them outright revolting after being burned one too many times by what COULD be a great game that got ruined by them, rather than merely distasteful.


But yes: bloons is mild about em...relative to some games i've heard of, at least.

[KingKickAss]

引用自 fractalgem：

引用自 KingKickAss：

I swear people who complain about monkey bucks just saw that there's a currency in the game, closed it and then went to the forums to complain about it.
You do know that its not a premium currency right? Its literally the reward you get for playing/winning the game, and players just have the option of spending money for it available to them if they feel like it.

Do you just find games that have any sort of progress/unlockable/incentive to win to be gross or?

I, for one, tend to find micro transactions distasteful on general principles. I can absolutely imagine someone finding them outright revolting after being burned one too many times by what COULD be a great game that got ruined by them, rather than merely distasteful.


But yes: bloons is mild about em...relative to some games i've heard of, at least.

I don't like microtransactions either, but Bloons is at the level where its simple progression/reward like any other game. You play the game, and then you unlock stuff. They don't even do the thing where they passively encourage you to spend real money by making the grind as unappealing as possible. The game simply has a currency/reward system in place like most games do, and they added the option to buy said currency.

[Muu]

引用自 Ump：

Shocking people still boohoo about double cash it doesn't effect any sort of ranked mode

It diminishes the sense of achievement in a game when you do something, only to know that the game is harder specifically only for you because you didn't buy the Premium Ultra Deluxe Package (tm)

And I experienced it right there. "wow, this thing is unusually hard for such an easy game, I want to see how other people did it" and you look it up and you see everyone else just used Double Cash. It makes you ask, "what am I doing here?"

[battlezoby]

Ninja Kiwi is a microtransaction game that just want to mess with your brain and steal all your money.

The good part is that they're not very good at it.

If you want to like Microtransactions games, do download Duel Links and try build all the decks so you're not limited to just a few.

Trust me. Try that, and everything else will look good my comparison.