I think CHIMPS needs to be toned down a little

[dr_pepperfanatic]

Chimps mode just feels like cheap artificial difficulty to me. Starting later rounds so you miss out on that important first bit of money, Tower upgrades not functioning anymore (Monkey town, Merchant men, and supply drops), not being able to sell, and the price nerf to Obyn killed it for me. Maybe i'm just a noob, but i've been trying different strategies for rake map, not looking up any strategies just ones I come up with. No luck I die in the twenties, i've beaten all the beginner maps and the first page and half of the second page in intermediates. Rake and Chutes are giving me hella trouble.

I've looked up a few strategies for other maps and they either no longer work, or are to RNG dependant. I think either CHIMPS needs to be toned down some, or some towers need some buffs and or price buffs. Sorry if this seems like a noob post but i've felt like this for a while. I'm tired of starting over because I bought the wrong path or tower and got stuck.

[the.goosh222]

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you think i haven't been doing exactly that? you think i haven't been looking up and employing every strategy i can find in these last 40 games? people say you should have money left over but there is just none to be found. the money to create these strategies just can't be made

Contact Ninja Kiwi support, I guess. Your game must be bugged if you're actually making so little money. At this point, you're beyond helping.

[TRON]

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you think i haven't been doing exactly that? you think i haven't been looking up and employing every strategy i can find in these last 40 games? people say you should have money left over but there is just none to be found. the money to create these strategies just can't be made

Contact Ninja Kiwi support, I guess. Your game must be bugged if you're actually making so little money. At this point, you're beyond helping.

believe me i will... people said CHIMPS was hard but they never said anything about it being literally impossible

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[SirPoopsALot]

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Chimps mode just feels like cheap artificial difficulty to me. Starting later rounds so you miss out on that important first bit of money, Tower upgrades not functioning anymore (Monkey town, Merchant men, and supply drops), not being able to sell, and the price nerf to Obyn killed it for me. Maybe i'm just a noob, but i've been trying different strategies for rake map, not looking up any strategies just ones I come up with. No luck I die in the twenties, i've beaten all the beginner maps and the first page and half of the second page in intermediates. Rake and Chutes are giving me hella trouble.

I've looked up a few strategies for other maps and they either no longer work, or are to RNG dependant. I think either CHIMPS needs to be toned down some, or some towers need some buffs and or price buffs. Sorry if this seems like a noob post but i've felt like this for a while. I'm tired of starting over because I bought the wrong path or tower and got stuck.

Get good lmao

[Nelots]

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Double cash works on 13 out of 14 modes. Or 26 out of 28 if you consider coop its own thing. You still get your money's worth. CHIMPS would be insanely P2W if double cash worked on it, and the whole point is everybody has an even playing field. That would quite literally ruin the whole point of the difficulty.

If you can't beat logs or cubism on CHIMPS, then, sorry to say this, you're not good enough at the game right now. I'm not trying to say this to be mean, seriously, there is nothing wrong with not being a master at the game. Everyone starts somewhere. Perhaps you've been relying on double cash too much, who knows. I've got a black border on all beginner and intermediate maps, as well as some advanced and expert maps (though TBH most expert maps are a bit much for me , I don't really enjoy playing them so I usually don't) and can now beat many beginner maps using stupid strategies that shouldn't work.

Seriously, some people find CHIMPS so easy they've come up with challenges like Two Tower Chimps where so far 150+ different combos of only two towers that can beat it have been discovered. Or 2 Mega Pops, where a single tower gets 2 million+ pops (AKA the vast majority of them) and everything else supports it.

If you can't afford the Icicle Impale, get the middle path ninja for his cheap ability to slow moabs down. 0-2-3 glue is also amazing there. If you're struggling with DDTs, get an MIB. There are plenty of ways to take them down, though I will admit they are the most use-this-strategy-or-fail-heavy part of CHIMPS. And if none of that is working for you, use the challenge editor. Create a challenge on CHIMPS with regular CHIMPS rules and just play like a regular game. Maybe allow yourself to sell towers to work on your strategy. You wont get a medal for it of course, but this is practice. When you die in the challenge editor, you get the choice to continue from the beginning of the wave, which makes everything much easier to figure out.

Also, a single 0-2-5 permaspike at the end of the track with a 4-0-1 alchemist buffing it can usually carry you through most single path maps.

but those suggestions rely on money which almost doesn't exist in CHIMPS even by normal cash standards.

also you say "im not good enough at the game" OR the challenge is just plain NOT possible.

bottom line is CHIMPS is difficult beyond any sense of reason. they made it nigh impossible. there is literally no room for strategy variation or error. maybe if they started with 800 cash and at round 1, perhaps it would be beatable. but my determination has had me trying every combination of towers and paths i can think of and so far i have had no success with 35 attempts and counting JUST FROM TODAY. i seriously think that CHIMPS is going to drive me to my breaking point before i black border a single map.

the thing i am doign is analyzing every tower in terms of cost, range, and damage against MOABs and trying every single possible combination in what is possibly the definition of insanity. of course as for the ninja approach, that requires MICRO which i absolutely DO NOT want.

edit:38 attempts

Okay I was trying to be nice but let me make this clear for you. People have managed to beat logs on CHIMPS with nothing but a 0-0-0 ninja and Churchill. People have managed to beat 150+ different combinations of two tower chimps. If you're running out of money, you're doing ♥♥♥♥ wrong. I usually have around $30k spare at the end of a CHIMPS game unless it's a particularly hard map. If you cannot beat CHIMPS, you're not good enough. That's all there is to it, plain and simple. You cannot call it impossible when it's been beaten with only TWO TOWERS 150 DIFFERENT TIMES.

The fact that you're complaining so much about the starting cash despite the fact that it changes nothing aside from the first 5 for so rounds, makes me think you have NO IDEA how to start a chimps game. How about this: if the map has water, place a sub and a dart monkey. If the map does not have water, place three dart monkeys (spread out along the map where they have good range). There are many ways to do it but there are the two easiest.

[Nelots]

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There are plenty of 2TCs that don't involve abilities or lategame micro at all. If it comes down to it, look up a guide on the Prince of Darkness + Apache Prime 2TC. And I really mean look up a guide. You obviously can't make your own strategies, so I don't see a way you can do this at all without a guide.

HOW THE ACTUAL F#CK DO YOU COMPLETE CHIMPS WITH ONLY 2 TOWERS!? I HAVE PROBLEMS AS IT IS!!

40 ATTEMPTS AND STILL NOTHING!!! I TRIED SPIKE FACTORIES LIKE PEOPLE SAID, I TRIED SUBS, I TRIED MAGES, I TRIED NINJAS, I TRIED ****EVERYTHING**** AND NOTHING WORKS!!!!!!!!!!

THE. MONEY. JUST. CAN'T. BE. MADE. TO AFFORD. A. WIN...

Okay you've been complaining every post about money money money. Here's some advice that I assume is true based on your other post complaining about it not working on CHIMPS. Have you been using double cash everywhere? Go back and play impoppable WITHOUT double cash on.

[Nelots]

So just to prove a point, I went and beat the first map on CHIMPS without a guide or anything, just using whatever strategy I felt like and my own head. In this case, I used a general strategy I haven't used in ages for nostalgia's sake. Took me 25 minutes. I had an arch mage and icicle impale by round 82. Money was never an issue.
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[noah9942]

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man, the people complaining about certain things in chimps are really missing the point of it. especially being able to use double cash in chimps lol. like that would remove the whole point of the game mode. play a modded version of the game if you want all the badges so bad. not like they do anything.

except i paid for that mode and as such i firmly believe i should be allowed to use it. i mean i don't mean to sound whiny but seriously, chimps is just TOO hard... even for a hardest difficulty the win conditions require nothing less than absolute perfection, certain towers placed on certain waves, with a precise placement in an exact sequence and deviating at all to try and get an extra edge fails you automatically... needless to say, that margin of error is pretty damn slim. i mean you get next to no money, it starts you at round 6 with f#ck all in terms of cash, and it doesn't allow you to use something you buy with real actual money.

and as for me getting all the badges, i am no damn cheater, i will not mod my game for the sake of a medal. and even with double cash, that is still working within the confines set by ninjakiwi

there is tons of wiggle room in chimps on easier maps. nobody is forcing you to 100% complete the game. if you dont like chimps, go play some custom challenges, theres 1000s to choose from

[EIU GARPU]

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HOW THE ACTUAL F#CK DO YOU COMPLETE CHIMPS WITH ONLY 2 TOWERS!? I HAVE PROBLEMS AS IT IS!!

40 ATTEMPTS AND STILL NOTHING!!! I TRIED SPIKE FACTORIES LIKE PEOPLE SAID, I TRIED SUBS, I TRIED MAGES, I TRIED NINJAS, I TRIED ****EVERYTHING**** AND NOTHING WORKS!!!!!!!!!!

THE. MONEY. JUST. CAN'T. BE. MADE. TO AFFORD. A. WIN...

Just look up a detailed guide. You have to swallow your pride and accept that you're not gonna be able to make something from nothing.

chimps is close to impossible on expert maps. period. I don't even try anymore lol

of course there is no issue with chimps on the easy maps that you can place 2 towers, that is not the point

[the.goosh222]

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Just look up a detailed guide. You have to swallow your pride and accept that you're not gonna be able to make something from nothing.

chimps is close to impossible on expert maps. period. I don't even try anymore lol

of course there is no issue with chimps on the easy maps that you can place 2 towers, that is not the point

...okay? But what does that have to do with anything I said?

[стабильность]

just add chipms mode to others in online search

[Monke]

CHIMPS honestly isn't that bad once you figure out how to start and how to handle late-game rounds. The only time where it gets truly difficult is expert maps where it requires concise towers, placement, and micro at the perfect time

[Ackranome]

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CHIMPS honestly isn't that bad once you figure out how to start and how to handle late-game rounds. The only time where it gets truly difficult is expert maps where it requires concise towers, placement, and micro at the perfect time

The start of virtually every chimp map is 4-0-2 Ninja.

[Monke]

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CHIMPS honestly isn't that bad once you figure out how to start and how to handle late-game rounds. The only time where it gets truly difficult is expert maps where it requires concise towers, placement, and micro at the perfect time

The start of virtually every chimp map is 4-0-2 Ninja.

I said expert maps which require conciseness, which is mainly muddy/bloody puddles for good example

[DarkMatter]

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