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Who could defeat the Carrion in a crossover?
I've watched a playthrough of the game. In my opinion, one core appeal of the game is how formidable the monster is, while still being mortal.

This leads me to want to wonder: In a hypothetical crossover with monsters and characters of comparable size or smaller from other Indie Games, are there any who could take on The Carrion and win?

I'm interested in hearing from others about this. Most other Steam users, including those who're reading this, probably are more well-versed in other games, indie and otherwise, than I am. I'd love to be introduced to creatures I've never heard of from games I've never played who could potentially give the Carrion a run for its money.

I hope it would be accepted if I return the favor at some point, if any will humor me.
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cuni Aug 1, 2020 @ 8:03am 
Doom Guy or Butcher would probably stand a chance
VolteVaris Aug 1, 2020 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by cuni:
Doom Guy or Butcher would probably stand a chance
They actually wouldn't.
Alex Mercer probably would; however; They're basically the same thing; save that Carrion is more an amorphous horror-blob of worms, and Alex is a virus

Both of then think they are the original human
Piderman Aug 1, 2020 @ 2:16pm 
More like Heller, he bested Mercer after all.
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Running Rat Aug 1, 2020 @ 3:19pm 
I’m assuming there’s pool of water for Carrion to dive into or a fire extinguisher for it to use or something in this battle, because as far as I can tell it just burns until it dies or extinguishes the fire. So anyone with any fire weapons and/or fire magic could get a mutual kill by setting the monster on fire before it kills them if there’s nothing the monster can use to put the fire out.

The four wizards from Magicka might be able to beat it. They can freeze every enemy on the screen (and even offscreen enemies, if they’re in the same area) by casting rain (to get things wet) and blizzard (which chills everything and freezes water… if you’re wet, that means you get frozen.) They can also cast a shield on themselves to avoid getting frozen by their own magic. Even if we assume that the monster can break out of ice (a good assumption to make, considering how it broke out of a pod that was supposed to contain it,) it’ll just immediately get frozen again. While the monster is repeatedly getting frozen and freeing itself, the wizards can revive each other and finish it off, probably with lightning bolts. The monster could kill the wizards very quickly if it gets its tentacles on them, but there are four wizards so it’s unlikely that the monster could kill them all before they get the rain + blizzard combo off.

An end-game Terraria player character could probably beat the monster. We see that the monster is vulnerable to pistols, and in Terraria, a pistol upgraded with the power of hell is considered a pre-hardmode weapon (read: a mid game weapon.) End game Terraria weapons would chew through the monster’s health faster than mechs. The monster could kill the Terraria player character petty quick too. (The player character only has about twice as much health as the NPCs, and many NPCs appear to be normal humans, and we know how quick the monster can kill normal humans.) It all comes down to who gets the first shot. And here comes the clincher: the Terraria player character can hit any enemy on the screen, regardless of any obstacles in the way, with the Zenith weapon (the strongest weapon in the game.)
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An Easy Target Aug 1, 2020 @ 3:46pm 
Originally posted by cuni:
Doom Guy or Butcher would probably stand a chance

1. I admit I have yet to play Doom- and yet I've heard in general Doom Guy's supposed to be very tough and fast indeed. If it holds up, I can imagine this fight.

2. As for Butcher, again, I haven't played the game myself; and yet, I've read reviews and seen footage, and it seems Butcher can move faster than bullets. I'm not sure the Carrion's ready for a foe who can move even faster than itself. On the other hand Butcher seems to be as vulnerable as a normal human being, so one hit and he's out; on the other hand, I can guess he'd have to hit the Carrion once for every one of those health increments. Relatively, a battle of speedster vs. tank.

Pardon my rambling. I get very excited about this.

I'd like to add that I think it'd be very exciting and even symbolic to see Phobia Games's first protagonist, go up against their newest.

Thank you for both these suggestions. They're good ones. You can tell I'm particularly fond of your suggestion of the Butcher.
An Easy Target Aug 1, 2020 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by Sokar:
Alex Mercer probably would; however; They're basically the same thing; save that Carrion is more an amorphous horror-blob of worms, and Alex is a virus

I've seen that title around here and there but didn't really look at it until you suggested this. Interesting.
Vahnkiljoy Aug 1, 2020 @ 4:29pm 
Issac Clarke, tentacled monstrosities mean nothing to him.
MarcoPants Aug 1, 2020 @ 6:00pm 
Originally posted by Sokar:
Originally posted by cuni:
Doom Guy or Butcher would probably stand a chance
They actually wouldn't.
Alex Mercer probably would; however; They're basically the same thing; save that Carrion is more an amorphous horror-blob of worms, and Alex is a virus

Both of then think they are the original human
Bruh, the Doom Slayer would hands down krump Carrion. He's fought way tougher with less equipment. His arsenal has the firepower to obliterate the poor beastie in no time flat, his speed and reactions would make it difficult to even catch him, and even if it does, his raw physical strength combined with the protection from the Praetor Suit and being literally too angry to die, he can rip and tear through Carrion without the need of his guns.



Originally posted by Vahnkiljoy:
Issac Clarke, tentacled monstrosities mean nothing to him.
Except this one doesn't screw around like the necromorphs. If it gets a hold of Isaac, his R.I.G. ain't protecting him from those massive gnashers. Isaac's weapons actually could hurt and kill Carrion fairly well, so he would have to absolutely stay away or he is dead.
Prankman Aug 1, 2020 @ 6:45pm 
Originally posted by MarcoPants:
Originally posted by Sokar:
They actually wouldn't.
Alex Mercer probably would; however; They're basically the same thing; save that Carrion is more an amorphous horror-blob of worms, and Alex is a virus

Both of then think they are the original human
Bruh, the Doom Slayer would hands down krump Carrion. He's fought way tougher with less equipment. His arsenal has the firepower to obliterate the poor beastie in no time flat, his speed and reactions would make it difficult to even catch him, and even if it does, his raw physical strength combined with the protection from the Praetor Suit and being literally too angry to die, he can rip and tear through Carrion without the need of his guns.



Originally posted by Vahnkiljoy:
Issac Clarke, tentacled monstrosities mean nothing to him.
Except this one doesn't screw around like the necromorphs. If it gets a hold of Isaac, his R.I.G. ain't protecting him from those massive gnashers. Isaac's weapons actually could hurt and kill Carrion fairly well, so he would have to absolutely stay away or he is dead.

Even if the Slayer were to die, he'd just end up in Hell where he can absorb more rage as he fights and then leave whenever he wants. Death can't stop him and neither can Carrion, unfortunately.
juicetin17 Aug 1, 2020 @ 7:16pm 
Well, there are a few that would win decisively for fairly obvious reasons. The unnamed protagonist of UNDEFEATED, since he's basically superman. Any of the wizards of the Gemcraft series, being tower defense protagonists, are able to conjure up a set of fortifications that can stop hordes of monsters from thin air and throw gem bombs that can kill a pack of them at once.
Then there are all the characters that have been adapted from other media, but that kind of feels like cheating and nobody cames to listen to me rattling off anime and comic book characters anyway.

Raiden from Metal Gear: Rising Revengeance may or may not have the movement speed of Carrion's monster, but he definitely has the reaction speed to slice any tentacles grabbing at him. the strength to continue to struggle and cut even if he is grabbed, and the durability to endure a few hits. For that matter, many of the series' eponymous metal gears could probably best the monster, and many of them probably aren't much larger than it is at full size, if at all.

While we're on the subject of enemies rather than player characters, I'd imagine Sectopods from the XCOM series could do it. They're similar to the armored walkers but constructed out of alien alloys rather than (presumably) steel and armed with better plasma weapons. The Enemy Unknown version would probably be light enough for the monster to pick up and thrash, but the XCOM 2 version is much bigger. The Ethereals of the first game might also stand a chance, with their psychic... shields, for lack of a better term, and offensive powers.

As for my two cents on Doomguy... He has great mobility (albeit probably not as good as the Carrion monster), and like Raiden he also has the strength and durability to struggle to some degree, but most important is his arsenal. Even a single pistol round has can take a pip off of the monster's biomass gauge, and as of Doom Eternal he has much more than that. A Chaingun (similar to the mech-mounted ones that can kill in a second) with mobile turret and shield options, a rocket launcher that can fire homing bursts of multiple rockets (remember how badly the monster handles those explosive turret/traps), ice bombs (one of the monster's greatest strengths is undoubtedly its speed), a flamethrower (duh), the Crucible (useful if he's grabbed), and the BFG (do I even need to explain this one?).

I feel like I should be able to remember more, but that's all I have for now.
Grey Knights from 40k and Dawn of War would have a field day with Carrion. As basically a paranormal response team on steroids, Carrion would probably just be any other Tuesday.

The crew from Vermintide probably have enough experience tangling with Chaos Spawn to handle themselves if they stick together. The witch is probably the only person who could fend it off in a 1v1 though.

The reaper from Deadbolt could flip the tables on Carrion and out maneuver it by traveling through vents faster than it can. He doesn't pack much firepower and it would be a prolonged fight but I think he'd win in the end.

Duskdude's specialty is running 60mph and beating the plots of eldritch horrors through sheer combat prowess, I'd say he's qualified.

AM from I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream loves torturing amorphous blob monstrosities so he'd probably get off to the idea of playing around with Carrion.
Running Rat Aug 1, 2020 @ 11:40pm 
Around Carrion’s size or smaller, you say? How about microbes? Specifically, the microbes from Plague Inc? The shadow plague’s vampire could probably beat Carrion in a 1v1 fight, since the vampire is so absurdly powerful that it can destroy entire anti-vampire military bases. This is despite the fact that humans know about the vampire’s weaknesses, and use things like garlic and holy water against it. If Carrion tried to hide, it would succeed for a while, but eventually the shadow plague would mind control all of humanity and use every military in the world against Carrion. Against other plagues, Carrion could just kill patient zero before the infection gets going. Carrion itself probably wouldn’t get infected, since the plagues have to evolve to infect specific animals.

Ah, loopholes!
Tanello Aug 2, 2020 @ 12:24am 
Originally posted by An Easy Target:
I've watched a playthrough of the game. In my opinion, one core appeal of the game is how formidable the monster is, while still being mortal.

This leads me to want to wonder: In a hypothetical crossover with monsters and characters of comparable size or smaller from other Indie Games, are there any who could take on The Carrion and win?

I'm interested in hearing from others about this. Most other Steam users, including those who're reading this, probably are more well-versed in other games, indie and otherwise, than I am. I'd love to be introduced to creatures I've never heard of from games I've never played who could potentially give the Carrion a run for its money.

I hope it would be accepted if I return the favor at some point, if any will humor me.
Alex Mercer from PROTOTYPE series
Ruiner Aug 2, 2020 @ 9:47pm 
Originally posted by DOOMRIDER:
he crew from Vermintide probably have enough experience tangling with Chaos Spawn to handle themselves if they stick together. The witch is probably the only person who could fend it off in a 1v1 though.

Chaos Spawns aren't even remotely as dangerous as Carrion. Carrion is incredibly fast.
Originally posted by Ruiner:
Chaos Spawns aren't even remotely as dangerous as Carrion. Carrion is incredibly fast.
They take all shapes and sizes lorewise and they're still clearly Thing inspired like Carrion. I think the crew would still have an idea how to handle Carrion based on their experience with Spawn.
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